My strokes- be harsh.

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P8ntballa

Guest
So this is a little video of me warming up made up of mostly forehands for now. So please critique my forehand please. Be Harsh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZJrJPsYC0k

SPLIT-STEP!!! Even in warmup u need to split step, itll do wonders for ur prep and ability to get to the ball. Open up ur shoulders and really rotate, try bringin ur off hand further back on ur fh take back and then rotate the hips and shoulders thru the shot. Watch any of the slo-mo vids of the pros online, they all do what I just recommended. Murray is the best to watch for technical solidness.
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
Ah yes, this is an older video but I started reaching out with my non dominant arm alot more for that rotation on my forehand. Thanks!
 

Hondasteve

Rookie
All the upper body elements look very technically sound. You are nice and relaxed as well. Only advice I'd give besides the aforementioned lack of split-step would be to drive with your legs more. I have the same tendency as well when rallying, just to crank with the torso and arms, but you really lose significant action and topspin without the legs. Builds match consistency and more margin for error as well.
 

BullDogTennis

Hall of Fame
i hate when people put up videos of them "warming up" because chances are 1 of 2 things.

1. your hitting full speed, you see the video of yourself, and say wow i thought i hit the ball harder than that, so therefore im self conscious of myself, so ill say im "warming up"
2. your really warming up, being lazy, we cant tell anything about it anyways.

another thing i hate is...first time someone is critical... you say..."oh oh, this video is old of me(even if it prob isnt) and i do all this stuff right now."

so basically put a video of your playing out points "full speed" put up a video of a tie break. or full speed rallying.

**you said be critical, so i was.
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
i hate when people put up videos of them "warming up" because chances are 1 of 2 things.

1. your hitting full speed, you see the video of yourself, and say wow i thought i hit the ball harder than that, so therefore im self conscious of myself, so ill say im "warming up"
2. your really warming up, being lazy, we cant tell anything about it anyways.

another thing i hate is...first time someone is critical... you say..."oh oh, this video is old of me(even if it prob isnt) and i do all this stuff right now."

so basically put a video of your playing out points "full speed" put up a video of a tie break. or full speed rallying.

**you said be critical, so i was.

I meant to be harsh with my technique. I called this an older video because I saw what I needed to fix and tried to fix it. i posted this video because it's the only one i have. Anyways, thanks for your insight.
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
All the upper body elements look very technically sound. You are nice and relaxed as well. Only advice I'd give besides the aforementioned lack of split-step would be to drive with your legs more. I have the same tendency as well when rallying, just to crank with the torso and arms, but you really lose significant action and topspin without the legs. Builds match consistency and more margin for error as well.

Hey thanks alot! I do feel a bit unbalanced at times because of my lack of a knee bend on my forehand and driving with my legs will probably give me better results.
 

Josherer

Professional
SPLIT-STEP!!! Even in warmup u need to split step, itll do wonders for ur prep and ability to get to the ball. Open up ur shoulders and really rotate, try bringin ur off hand further back on ur fh take back and then rotate the hips and shoulders thru the shot. Watch any of the slo-mo vids of the pros online, they all do what I just recommended. Murray is the best to watch for technical solidness.

He is split stepping. Just not that obvious. Otherwise good points.
 

Nanshiki

Hall of Fame
You're doing more right than wrong.

Not that bad at all.

Just start working on increasing racquet speed and power.
 
Umm to me it looks you're a serve and volleyer. Your backhand is really more reminiscent of a one-hander and judging by your forehand you hit pretty flat but have trouble with the high ball out to the right corner. Miss anything? :)
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
To all I USE TO USE A ONE HANDED BACKHAND. But I tore my rotator cuff hitting it so I switched to a two hander. But it is QUITE a big takeback. I don't know, I never have a problem with it because it shortens up alot when i have to pick up a short ball near the net or if I have to block something back. And for the NTRP ratings, I'm not gonna tell you guys. :)
 
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ci2ca

Semi-Pro
Umm to me it looks you're a serve and volleyer. Your backhand is really more reminiscent of a one-hander and judging by your forehand you hit pretty flat but have trouble with the high ball out to the right corner. Miss anything? :)

Freaking daniel. You only know this because i hit with you once. Haha.
 

NLBwell

Legend
Agree with HondaSteve. The upper body is very good (maybe could hit just a bit more out in front) but your legs seem dead during the stroke, there isn't any rotation or weight transfer.
 

35ft6

Legend
I could tell from the first feed you're pretty good. You should take the racket back more, create a fuller swing, but if not, it's still a nice motion. Perhaps don't worry about it.
 
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chico9166

Guest
If your real goal is to be critiqued and improve, post another video where you actually try.
 
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LeeD

Bionic Poster
Yeah, you're pretty good.
But what's with the lazy lackdaisical technique on this vid?
You're good, but hitting lazy only promotes lazy play.
Do you wanna see a short vid of LebronJames walking thru his moves?
You wanna see HelioCastroneves driving at 12 mph?
You wanna see JohnDaly playing miniture golf?
You wanna see a vid of yourself being lazy and disinterested?
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
Yeah, you're pretty good.
But what's with the lazy lackdaisical technique on this vid?
You're good, but hitting lazy only promotes lazy play.
Do you wanna see a short vid of LebronJames walking thru his moves?
You wanna see HelioCastroneves driving at 12 mph?
You wanna see JohnDaly playing miniture golf?
You wanna see a vid of yourself being lazy and disinterested?

True, I will try to get a video up soon of me actually playing some points out instead of just hitting or warming up. Thanks for your insight it's much appreciated.
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
I could tell from the first feed you're pretty good. You should take the racket back more, create a fuller swing, but if not, it's still a nice motion. Perhaps don't worry about it.

Hm, that's weird cause to me it seems like I already have a large takeback on my forehand. I've been trying to shorten it up by just by taking my racket back with my body rotation only and rotate into my forehand instead of somewhat taking it back with my arms and rotating to hit it. I don't seem to have trouble generating pace with my forehand either because I play with an extreme eastern forehand grip and tend to slap the ball for added pace. It just seems easier with a more conservative grip I guess.
 

The Wreck

Semi-Pro
Yeah, you're pretty good.
But what's with the lazy lackdaisical technique on this vid?
You're good, but hitting lazy only promotes lazy play.
Do you wanna see a short vid of LebronJames walking thru his moves?
You wanna see HelioCastroneves driving at 12 mph?
You wanna see JohnDaly playing miniture golf?
You wanna see a vid of yourself being lazy and disinterested?

Yes.

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plasma

Banned
lazy hitting, stiff legs, arm swings, slow recovery, lack of sinking hips before shot...you said be harsh...right???
 

subaru3169

Semi-Pro
ya you do kinda look somewhat lazy or really tired or something

take it with a grain of salt as it's just my opinion.. but your windup looks nice, but the position of your racket looks to be a little incomplete right at the point of completing preparation and before striking the ball.. it's like your windup is fully locked in but the racket position isn't

i also agree with the legs thing though.. your upper body motion is good but your legs just aren't ready for some reason.. groundstrokes require your entire body, not just your arms/upper body

hope this helps
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
haha, got it. So it seems the consensus is legs need working. I'll post a video of me hitting soon, not warming up so I don't get the lazy feedback anymore. Subaru3169, when you say locking your racket in position you don't really want to do that. Think of it this way, if you stop the winding motion and stop the racket the flow of the racket will be interrupted and there will be no whip of the racket forward. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for your tips.
 

subaru3169

Semi-Pro
oh sorry, i didn't mean for you to stop the racket but i was trying to describe a specific point in the stroke.. i was trying to describe it as if pushing pause in the middle of the stroke if that makes sense
 

aimr75

Hall of Fame
Hm, I was warming up but sure. Thanks for your input.

If you specifically asked for a harsh critique, not sure why you would post a clip of you just warming up.. he just called it as he saw it.. there's no point placing a caveat on the clip..
 

dave333

Hall of Fame
Definitely some good stuff, but your backhand just looks a bit too mechanical. If it works, fine, but a smoother one would probably be a bit more effective, since it implies you are a bit more relaxed.
 

ci2ca

Semi-Pro
Definitely some good stuff, but your backhand just looks a bit too mechanical. If it works, fine, but a smoother one would probably be a bit more effective, since it implies you are a bit more relaxed.

Haha, i agree. As a former lacrosse player I've always had a huge/ high windup or takeback. As for smoother, can you elaborate on that? I feel my execution is natural feeling but really hate my takeback. Is that what you meant?
 
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