My top 5(Open Era)

These kinds of lists are highly problematic. It's very difficult to have an informed opinion on someone who was before your time. I wasn't born when Laver was playing, making it difficult to place him.
You literally have the world at your fingertips. Just type Mr. Laver's name in the search engine of your choice and prepare to be amazed.
 
You literally have the world at your fingertips. Just type Mr. Laver's name in the search engine of your choice and prepare to be amazed.

Nevertheless, tennis evolved over the years and the more factors you take into consideration the harder it will become to make any kind of list. Needless to say I think any of these lists (open era only, overall, etc.) are pointless.
 
You literally have the world at your fingertips. Just type Mr. Laver's name in the search engine of your choice and prepare to be amazed.

I know who he is and his record (roughly), but that doesn't mean I can place him in context. I don't know the competition, either in "talent" or work ethic. Was Laver an athlete with a professional approach to training in an era where others pursued less rigorous training regimes. He won two calendar year grand slams. Allowing for technological advance and advances in training techniques, would he have made a champion of that calibre in today's game? Placing a player off data is difficult to do. I don't feel I can compare him easily to (say) Nadal.
 
Tier 1: Federer, Nadal, Laver
Tier 2: Sampras, Djokovic, Borg
Tier 3: Agassi, Lendl, Connors, McEnroe
Tier 4: Wilander, Becker, Edberg
 
For the record my top 5:

1) Federer
2) Nadal
3) Borg
4) Sampras
5) Djokovic

Laver probably an unlucky 6th

Same as the OP: Not sure if it's great minds or feeble ones, but we're thinking alike.
 
I know who he is and his record (roughly), but that doesn't mean I can place him in context. I don't know the competition, either in "talent" or work ethic. Was Laver an athlete with a professional approach to training in an era where others pursued less rigorous training regimes. He won two calendar year grand slams. Allowing for technological advance and advances in training techniques, would he have made a champion of that calibre in today's game? Placing a player off data is difficult to do. I don't feel I can compare him easily to (say) Nadal.
I see your point. Fair enough.
 
Tier 1: Federer, Nadal, Laver
Tier 2: Sampras, Djokovic, Borg
Tier 3: Agassi, Lendl, Connors, McEnroe
Tier 4: Wilander, Becker, Edberg
I agree with this, except I would definitely emphasize that Fed and Sampras are at the top of their respective tiers. And I would leave Wilander out.
 
What would Murray need to do to enter your tier 4 list?

I guess right now I'd put him

Tier 5: Murray, Courier

I mean it's not like the tiers are so far away from each others, arguments can be made to move a player from one tier to another... An argument can easily be made to move Murray up to Tier 4 especially since he was unlucky to deal with 3 GOATs therefore hurting his record in slam finals...
 
Tier 1: Federer, Nadal, Laver
Tier 2: Sampras, Djokovic, Borg
Tier 3: Agassi, Lendl, Connors, McEnroe
Tier 4: Wilander, Becker, Edberg

Considering the fact Fed and Nadal are both still active and winning, I think that's how you have to start looking at it - start splitting tier 1 into two. Who knows how many slams they will end up with. Fed might have another in two days and if Rafa wins RG next year, he'll have as many FOs as Borg has slams.
 
I don't consider Laver because he straddles the 'pro' era and 'open era' with his biggest accomplishments. He's the greatest player of the 1960s without a doubt.
 
With 7 slams, it's hard to ignore Wilander.
That's fair. I was a big fan of Edberg growing up (and therefore also watched Becker a lot). Wilander was a little before my time so I have always had a tendency to discount him, which is probably a mistake.
 
Federer
Nadal
Djokovic
Sampras
Borg

And a distant sixth Laver and that's just to keep the Laver fan boys off my back. Lendl is arguably more worthy.
 
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