Nadal’s knee lets him down yet again
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And here I was thinking that a doubles match did not stress, jeopardize or hurt Nadal's knees, since he played doubles in Halle last year, doubles in many tournaments throughout the year's previous and doubles last week after he couldn't compete in Australia.
I'm pretty sure it's got nothing to do with a silent ban and I think Nadal genuinely was injured, and feel for him that he still has problems, however he is truly one of the dumbest schedulers you are likely to ever see in professional tennis.
I'm pretty sure it's got nothing to do with a silent ban and I think Nadal genuinely was injured, and feel for him that he still has problems, however he is truly one of the dumbest schedulers you are likely to ever see in professional tennis.
ark_28
Legend
Nadal is paying the price for not making his game more aggressive, the fact of the matter is in 2010 when he won the Open he served huge and this resulted in shorter rallies and quicker points.
Isner has one of the fastest serves in tennis and it has helped him beat some of the biggest names in the sport, while having relatively short rallies with a huge serve and forehand combo.
Isner has one of the fastest serves in tennis and it has helped him beat some of the biggest names in the sport, while having relatively short rallies with a huge serve and forehand combo.
kalyan4fedever
Legend
World number five Nadal had been scheduled to team up with Argentina's David Nalbandian in a second-round encounter against Argentine Horacio Zeballos and Oliver Marach of Austria.
Also this proves that knee only gets worse on playing
Also this proves that knee only gets worse on playing
TennisLovaLova
Hall of Fame
Actually no you're wrong.
Nadal had a foot problem when he was 15-17 and by solving that issue the doctors told him there was a serious risk for the knees in the future.
His style has nothing to do with it.
sbengte
G.O.A.T.
Of course it does. It might not be the CAUSE. But a different style would certainly help. If he just ran to the net every point, I'm pretty sure he'd have like half the miles he has now, so he'd probably have a lot less damage to the knees.
Speranza
Hall of Fame
Then he truly shouldn't be complaining about hard courts, number of matches etc.if by nature his physiology causes him problems.
RAFA2005RG
Banned
Another boring thread about Nadal. And this time its about doubles :lol: Does anyone on Talk Tennis have any interest in tennis itself? I think this whole forum is built around Nadal. And even the "Nadal News" thread wasn't enough to quell Nadal's domination of threads. If Nadal didn't exist then nobody would post here.
fed_is_GOD
Professional
Unfortunately no one is as much a clown as nadal and it is always fun to talk about clowns and the funny stuff they do...
you know.. like saying you are injured. taking a 7 month break and then playing 9 matches in 6 days in a "god only knows" tournament and then announce again that you are injured..
Very few people's life's are as comic as nadal's... with his OCD and his cry baby stuff.. he is just AWESOME!!!!
RAFA2005RG
Banned
Wow, Nadal owns the crap out of you, this is unprecedented. Most powerful man in sports history, by far. You should put a statue of him on your front yard, you are so controlled by him.
fed_is_GOD
Professional
Wow, Nadal owns the crap out of you, this is unprecedented. Most powerful man in sports history, by far. You should put a statue of him on your front yard, you are so controlled by him.
I want to actually see a face morph of Eric Cartman from south park with nadal's face..
Goosehead
Legend
Wow, Nadal owns the crap out of you, this is unprecedented. Most powerful man in sports history, by far. You should put a statue of him on your front yard, you are so controlled by him.
Nadal could'nt play doubles as he was turning into an Armadillo at that time :twisted:
and here we see the transformation of the body continue..soon this new 'Rafarmadillo' will be continuing its appearances in the video of the clash single-rock the casbah.
PSNELKE
Legend
LOL you're really into that tree. Isner wouldn't have survived on the Tour being "normally" tall.
Isner can't play with Nadal's or Djokovic' style, simply because his height won't allow him to. He didn't really had a choice which style to play.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
my thoughts exactly.
mariecon
Hall of Fame
But don't you know the ATP should cater to his every ailment. Forget about the other 1000+ players on the pro circuit. It's all about him!
mariecon
Hall of Fame
Wow, Nadal owns the crap out of you, this is unprecedented. Most powerful man in sports history, by far. You should put a statue of him on your front yard, you are so controlled by him.
hmmm.
Been there, done that...
:twisted:
Roddick85
Hall of Fame
Nadal is wrong about hard courts being the reason why he's got knee problems. As he said in his book, when he first got his foot problem in 2005, doctors told him is career was over. The only workaround he found was wearing special insoles that lessened the impact on his foot and put more pressure on his knees. Althought hard courts can be hard on anyone's body, he's got to come to terms with the fact that his defensive/grinding style is the main culprit here, not necessarly the surface. Otherwise, why is he pretty much the only one complaining about the surfaces? From my experience playing grinders, by the end of the outdoor season here in Canada, they all complain about they're knees hurting and they all take extended leave and comeback the year after, repeating the same pattern over and over. I know it will never happen, but if Nadal would switch his style to have more offense and shorter rallies, I don't think his knees would be in such rough shape.
Smasher08
Legend
I doubt he has sufficient talent
Moreover, he mght have to alter the form of his forehand to hit through the ball more -- which would reduce amount of topspin he imparts, which would make him far more vulnerable on clay.
Between his knees, his feet, his technique, and his playing style, I wonder if he may very well be in a form of checkmate.
Smasher08
Legend
Saved for posterity :lol:
Raiden
Hall of Fame
Why not from singles? I don't get it (unless it is precautionary measure rather than an acute injury
Murrayfan31
Hall of Fame
He should withdraw from the tournament if he is feeling pain. Dude is dumb like I said before.
Compared to hard, yes. Compared to not playing, no.
cknobman
Legend
It really is starting to get pathetic listening to Nadal whine and moan about tournaments and conditions citing the ATP/ITF need to care more about players and their careers.
Nadals first 2 tournaments back from a 8 month layoff due to injury he proceeds to play singles and doubles when he and his doctor have been preaching about taking it easy on the knee and managing his schedule???????????
Talk about stupid. Why do people listen to this guy whine?
How do you knew that?
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Not just the surfaces, he's the only one that complains about pretty much everything.
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Yet all we've been hearing is that they expect the pain to be gone by the end of February - courtesy of three tournaments with doubles in two or three of them...
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
That may certainly be true.
OddJack
G.O.A.T.
So obviously why hasnt he pulled from singles? Do they play on a different court for singles?
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Do you have any idea the explosive movement required for successful S&V and volleying in general
Especially in this day of poly strings and generally slower or higher bouncing surfaces!
Its naive to think that net play every point would solve Nadal's physical issues...
point is Nadal was born with physical ailments and his haters, and especially competition, has benefitted greatly!
He was not born with physical ailments, but it's his style of playing that ruining his body. Any athlete that plays his unorthodox style will also results in the wear and tear. The competition is the same for all players on the tour. It's Nadal who can't keep up with the rest.
DRII
G.O.A.T.
Who is not a 'grinder' among the top players
Federer may be the most aggressive of the Big 4, but he is still a baseliner and comes to net mcuh less than a Sampras or even a Borg in his day...
He turned pro in 2001. When exactly did Nadal had bad feet/knee before he became a pro?
Fiji
Legend
Who is not a 'grinder' among the top players
Federer may be the most aggressive of the Big 4, but he is still a baseliner and comes to net mcuh less than a Sampras or even a Borg in his day...
Nadal has the most grinding defensive style out of Federer, Murray and Djoker. He also has more mileage than Murray and Novak. Nadal was already playing epic marathons at 18 back in 2005(Rome final). He has tons of mileage and has been grinding and wearing down opponents both physically and mentally by being so tenacious on every point for almost a decade. In many of his matches you saw him hitting less winners than his opponents and a whole lot less unforced errors and then winning. You will never see him hit lots of winners since most of his points come from errors of his opponents because he runs them around. He is a grinder.
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mariecon
Hall of Fame
According to this article his foot problems didn't appear until he was 19 and was already a professional tennis player...
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...est-fear-arrives/story-e6frg7mf-1226452902007
Someone can have a congenital problem, such as a heart defect, but not know about it until they're an adult.
Thanks. Nadal was already a pro long before his foot gave him problem. During 2005, Nadal and his camp could have made some changes/tweak his game to protect his body, but instead they chose to play grinding/defensive style.
TennisLovaLova
Hall of Fame
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Lol it did that in the 2007 final so that wish has been granted.
mariecon
Hall of Fame
Really? Then how come Uncle Toni said this at the AO last year...
"I am going to say one thing," he told a small gathering at a coaches conference. "I have never spoken about this but Rafael had an injury in 2005 that was very serious.
"The doctor said he cannot play any more. He has a congenital problem in his foot. He had to use special shoes and orthotics to change the way he lands with his feet. Because of having the orthotics, this has caused problems in his knees and his back.
"The year he won the Australian Open in 2009, we couldn't finish one training session because of the pain. He couldn't finish one training session in the whole month of December because of the pain.
"The doctor said he could not understand how he could still play. Now we train less. In 2005, we thought we might be here for two more years. Now it is 2012 and we are still here."
- Sounds to me like it all came to light in 2005. Where does he say it was something they knew about before that? My guess is when Nadal (or whoever actually wrote the book) wrote the book he decided to say it was something he had forever since it was a congenital problem, meaning he was born with it but that doesn't mean it caused him any trouble, or that they even knew about it, till 2005.
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