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nadal: what are these strange things called emotions?
Nadal: “It’s strange that someone like Djokovic with so much success reacts this way from time to time”
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It's that Eastern European Crankiness
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Every player hates losing and every player is disappointed when they lose because they train so hard and sacrifice so much just for one goal -taking the trophy home but they should all understand that it is not their God given right to win everything. Djokovic seems to believe that only he has the right to win and shows his anger that his opponent has the audacity to want to beat him.
I cannot reconcile Djokovic being the most gracious in defeat when he smashes anything in sight at the slightest hint of not ending up on top. This has got worse the more successful he's been. It proves that he now fees entitled.
I cannot reconcile Djokovic being the most gracious in defeat when he smashes anything in sight at the slightest hint of not ending up on top. This has got worse the more successful he's been. It proves that he now fees entitled.
¿que hay de esto?
(For the record, I agree with you on Djokovic, this is just too hypocritical to not call out lol)
and how gracious is Nadal in defeat?
how often he acknowledged opponent effort, without talking about injuries preventing him to perform better?
Nole_The_Champion
Semi-Pro
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
LOL.
It's hilarious that that is the best you got to try to make Rafa seem weird
Nole_The_Champion
Semi-Pro
It's hilarious that that is the best you got to try to make Rafa seem weird
It's certainly way weirder than throwing rackets.
Legends and dozens of top players smashed rackets.
But no one, ever, practiced ass-pulling 100 times each match, the whole professional career.
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clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal hates losing but he doesn't throw his toys out of his pram nor does he wreck anything in sight. As it happens, injury is often the cause of Rafa's losses, not always but often; it's just a matter of stating the facts.
You are obsessed with him tugging his shorts.LOL.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
This was disappointment with himself at playing a bad shot nothing to do with his opponent.
¿que hay de esto?
(For the record, I agree with you on Djokovic, this is just too hypocritical to not call out lol)
right, he is too busy adding umpires to the black list and accusing them of not liking intelligent tennis
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
So how many umpires has Rafa black listed? Name them.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Putting fingers into your own butt in front of everyone is like definition of weirdness. 100 smashed racquet per match can't reach the level of weirdness that is the public display of self bum scratching.
you know the list better then me, and still will refute its existence
just like you will pretend that he doesn't break the time rule
so no point to keep this discussion
Winners or Errors
Legend
…and some do both.
RaulRamirez
Legend
To his credit, Novak would probably agree with Rafa here, and he has said as much about his own anger management struggles on-court.
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Rafa is a rare athlete who is ultra-competitive (and obviously ultra-talented and successful) who shows his positive emotions, but rarely his negative ones on-court (or field).
Novak, generally, plays a very disciplined, controlled game, but his perfectionism - or whatever drives his temper - often gets the better of him.
And then usually off the court, he is calm, intelligent and affable.
To Rafa, it must be puzzling, either:
a. How can someone who plays with such control have (frequently) a raging temper?
b. How can someone with such a raging temper play under such control?
A tennis conundrum...
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Rafa is a rare athlete who is ultra-competitive (and obviously ultra-talented and successful) who shows his positive emotions, but rarely his negative ones on-court (or field).
Novak, generally, plays a very disciplined, controlled game, but his perfectionism - or whatever drives his temper - often gets the better of him.
And then usually off the court, he is calm, intelligent and affable.
To Rafa, it must be puzzling, either:
a. How can someone who plays with such control have (frequently) a raging temper?
b. How can someone with such a raging temper play under such control?
A tennis conundrum...
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
"Becoming" regular would suggest they weren't regular before
He's always been this way, for better or worse
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
As someone who's followed him for a long time, he's been better than his average this year, I feel.
Nole_The_Champion
Semi-Pro
As long as he and Rafanatics are obsessed with
Novak throwing racquet (and exclusively Novak btw, not others).
Better look at himself.
The Fedfather
Legend
True. But I think he made a turn for the worse after 2016. Whatever happened that year, Djokovic came out of it more off-kilter than he was before, IMO.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
This tells me you can't support your allegations. Only one umpire (Bernardes) has been suspended from calling Rafa's matches and it was for 10 months for making Rafa change his shorts on court because he said he would give him a time violation if he left the court to turn them the right way round. The ATP found in Rafa's favour after careful consideration of the evidence.
If you can't list the other instances then I take it as read that you can't substantiate what you claim.
list = a record of short pieces of information, such as people's names, usually written or printed with a single thing on each line and often ordered in a way that makes a particular thing easy to find:
1 name qualifies to a record of short pieces of information: Carlos Bernardes
Nole_The_Champion
Semi-Pro
Novak the Alpha:
Rafa Beta:
He's talking about Novak's "strange" behaviour.
Saltiness pouring out of him.
Rafa Beta:
He's talking about Novak's "strange" behaviour.
Saltiness pouring out of him.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Nadal was silent on these things for a long time. The fact that he's speaking about it now means that Djok's behavior has crossed the line from excusable to inexcusable.
I dislike a lot of Nadal's gamesmanship but Djok has managed to make him look like the ultimate sportsmen the game has ever seen.
I dislike a lot of Nadal's gamesmanship but Djok has managed to make him look like the ultimate sportsmen the game has ever seen.
Nole_The_Champion
Semi-Pro
It means only
that Novak's records have crossed the line Rafa can bear.
Dozens of top players reacted like Novak since forever, Medvedev did the exact same thing as him at the same event, but Rafa clings to Novak.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Or he wants to score points against Djokovic off the court, that he cannot score on the court.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
It means only
that Novak's records have crossed the line Rafa can bear.
Dozens of top players reacted like Novak since forever, Medvedev did the exact same thing as him at the same event, but Rafa clings to Novak.
It isn't only Rafa though. That's where your delusion breaks down. Rafa didn't make Djok default US2020. Rafa isn't making Djok disgrace himself. Rafa didn't give Djok COVID (neither did Grigor).
Rafa is finally stating the obvious, the truth that everyone except for Djokeists can see. His behavior is no longer excusable and he has already caused harm to people with his carelessness. That line judge won't be the last.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Or he wants to score points against Djokovic off the court, that he cannot score on the court.
He's only one year removed from bageling him in a Slam, let's not get too carried away.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Don't mean necessary about their matches, although Novak has been ruthlessly efficient against Nadal for years now in that department especially off clay, but more about the other Novak's wins over Nadal like the Slam title rate in the past few years, the weeks at #1, the YE #1 finishes, the DCGS, the possible CYGS, the double golden masters, even if you want the better handling of the next gen. That's all points in Novak's favour, that Nadal cannot win them right now.
Rosstour
G.O.A.T.
Don't mean necessary about their matches, although Novak has been ruthlessly efficient against Nadal for years now in that department especially off clay, but more about the other Novak's wins over Nadal like the Slam title rate in the past few years, the weeks at #1, the YE #1 finishes, the DCGS, the possible CYGS, the double golden masters, even if you want the better handling of the next gen. That's all points in Novak's favour, that Nadal cannot win them right now.
Agreed. But Rafa is twice the man Djok will ever be.
Making ballkids and women frightened of you is not "alpha". Djok has no honor.
It means only
that Novak's records have crossed the line Rafa can bear.
Dozens of top players reacted like Novak since forever, Medvedev did the exact same thing as him at the same event, but Rafa clings to Novak.
can you please name dozen of top players that threw their racket into the stands?
I'll help you and begin:
Med
Nole
please complete the list
Nadal_Django
Legend
All these at the end is highly irrelevant for the current competition between Nadal Fed and Djokovic also known in the tennis community as the Goat debate. And deep down Nadal knows this perfectly. That's why he is salty af at Djokovic.
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