Nadal 2014 vs Federer 2013

Who will win?

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Federer has an awful year in 2013. He would lose in early rounds of tournaments at the hands of low ranked players, like in Wimbledon, Hamburg and Gstaad. Same goes for Nadal- he has had a horrendous end to the year, exiting in Halle, Wimbledon, Beijing, Shanghai, and Basel in early rounds at the hands of players he could've easily defeated. So if Federer 2013 and Nadal 2014 were to play against each other who would win? One thing to consider is that they both had injuries/ health problems with Federer having back proplems affecting his movement and and Nadal with appendicitis.

Edit- If Nadal 2014 at the time he won a Grand Slam played Federer 2013 then of course Nadal would win. But my question is who would win if Nadal at his worst in 2014 played against Federer at his worst in 2013?
 
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Stupid comparison. Federer dropped to #7 in 2013, while Nadal 2014 won a slam and made 1 slam final. Even Federer 2014 wouldn't stand a chance against any version of Nadal. Look up AO 2014 destruction.
 
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SuperHead said:
Federer has an awful year in 2013. He would lose in early rounds of tournaments at the hands of low ranked players, like in Wimbledon, Hamburg and Gstaad. Same goes for Nadal- he has had a horrendous end to the year, exiting in Halle, Wimbledon, Beijing, Shanghai, and Basel in early rounds at the hands of players he could've easily defeated. So if Federer 2013 and Nadal 2014 were to play against each other who would win? One thing to consider is that they both had injuries/ health problems with Federer having back proplems affecting his movement and and Nadal with appendicitis.
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Nadal can't even beat players outside the top 100, what makes you think Nadal could beat Fed 2013 right now, let alone win enough matches to meet Fed?
 
helloworld said:
Stupid comparison. Federer dropped to #7 in 2013, while Nadal 2014 won a slam and made 1 slam final. Even Federer 2014 wouldn't stand a chance against any version of Nadal. Look up AO 2014 destruction.
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Thanks for the laughs.
Too bad Nadal has this habit of bolting out against whatever a Tom, Dick & Harry as soon as RG is over, thus making it impossible for Fed to set the facts right.
 
Nadal has not been as bad as Federer was last year, that was truly awful. Unless you pick Federer's best from 2013 like maybe at cinci or Paris and put that against Nadal at his worst this year on indoor hard.
 
Chico said:
Terrible Djokovic from 2009/2010 would beat them both.
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right because everything is about Djokovic... obsessed much? Nole was 22/23 and had already won a slam. Let's see if he plays worse than that in the next few years, it will be interesting to see him at 32 with a dodgy back or even in 2 years time in an alternative reality where he's won slams for 10 years in a row.

90's Clay said:
Fed couldn't beat nadal If rafa only had one leg. Obviously rafa wins. 23-10 tells the story
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I didn't know Rafa lost his leg 10 times. No wait must have lost an arm too. Federer beat Nadal as recent as 2012. Last year he played so crap and happened to meet Nadal several times but any other year he would have beaten him at least once. He's beaten him in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012. Only years he didn't was 2004 when they met once, and crisis years 2008 and 2013. Nadal lost to coric so we never got a rare meeting that would favour fed this year.
 
Federer's best form at a slam this year was the AO but he lost to Rafa in straights.

And if you watch the match it's not a matter of Federer playing an impossible moonballing top-spin monster. Dimitrov and Nishikori the midget played Nadal harder ffs.
 
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Is this a fantasy tennis thread?

I could never understand the need or popularity for speculating impossible scenarios.

There's no way to prove your theory!
 
Nadal 2014, because the match-up still works for him, and he hasn't even played bad this year. But these comparisons are pointless anyway. Even Federer 2013 had quite a lot of matches in which he played well or very well, and the same goes for Nadal this year. As mentioned before, Cincy 2013/AO 2014.
 
I have to go with Nadal 2014 over 2013 Federer in any best of five event. Not a great year for Nadal but he was still able to win a slam and make the final at his least successful slam. Federer 2013 was nowhere near a slam. Add the match-up and the mental edge factor on top of it all, and I have to go with advantage Nadal.
 
Nadal all day. Federer was terrible last year. Nadal's been inconsistent, but still better than 2013 Fed. Plus the match up issue hurts Fed massively, even assuming no mental edge which also goes to Nadal anyway, although the 2 are obviously related to some extent. That's just a fact, not an excuse.
 
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Mr.Snrub said:
Federer's best form at a slam this year was the AO but he lost to Rafa in straights.

And if you watch the match it's not a matter of Federer playing an impossible moonballing top-spin monster. Dimitrov and Nishikori the midget played Nadal harder ffs.
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Fed was ON FIRE in that match and he lost to a blistered Nadal with back injury. :shock:
 
Nadal would win everywhere. Fed 2013 was so bad, the movement was like a 40yo. In 2014, without the bad back, Fed is moving and defending like he were 26! His speed off the mark is slower, his FH has declined, but everything else is better than in like 4 years!
 
Nadal, without a doubt.

Federer was terrible last year. Look what happened at Wimbledon, and then Robredo KO'd him in straight sets at the US Open. Once his back went in that early round match at IW, that was his season done pretty much.
 
As many others have already said, Nadal would crush him. Federer was absolutely atrocious in 2013, his ranking drop actually doesn't tell the full story. His (initially) high seeding from 2012 gave him easy draws (like with any other top player), and therefor shielded him from getting booted out even earlier in most of the tournaments he played. Nadal has had an inconsistent year, but as others have said he was playing fine for the first half of the year He has barely played at all in the 2nd half, there is no comparison. 2013 was probably the worst year of Federer's career, at least since 2001.
 
torpantennis said:
Not 2015, he's in decline. Will be 29 in 2015!
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Nadal is in serious decline? He won the FO and made the final of the AO. He will rest up, recharge and be back again in 2015 IMO. I think the Fed fans who are counting Nadal out may be sorry.
 
thomasferrett said:
How can Nadal decline faster than someone he's about 4 years younger than?
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Nadal's age is the fastest phase of the decline of all human beings athletic abilities:

torpantennis said:
Deny the facts as much as you like. Some facts:

1) 35yo Agassi/Haas have played great tennis. Why not Federer?
2) Biggest decline in athlete's career happens at 27-29yo, when the explosiveness of the youth is lost. It's not a surprise that most all previous tennis greats have lost their edge at this age. It's also no surprise that even the great Usain Bolt has considered switching from 100m to 200m, at 28yo: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/commonwealth-games/28629220
3) Sportsmen can actually keep competitive up into their 40s, if they have the desire and the talent: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...2/teemu-selanne-finland-bronze-medal/5728847/

So yes, Novak/Rafa are now at the fastest decline of their careers. And yes, Roger will NOT decline that much more, IF he has the desire to keep winning.
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MichaelNadal said:
And Federer will be 34, so what's your point? So delusional. Nadal after a break is no joke. He may or may not have a stellar
2015, but he'll be motivated, rested and healthy.
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The point? After you lose that step in your footspeed from the peak, the decline is actually slower, IF YOUR BODY CAN HANDLE IT. Fed's back couldn't handle it in 2013, then he got rid of the problem.

The point: Fed 2006 vs. Fed 2010, a much bigger difference than Fed 2010 vs. Fed 2014. Nadal 2015/2011 is similar to Fed 2006/2010!
 
torpantennis said:
The point? After you lose that step in your footspeed from the peak, the decline is actually slower, IF YOUR BODY CAN HANDLE IT. Fed's back couldn't handle it in 2013, then he got rid of the problem.

The point: Fed 2006 vs. Fed 2010, a much bigger difference than Fed 2010 vs. Fed 2014.
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Nadal lost that step quite a while ago. There is no predicting tennis. We'll have to see what happens. Nadal would be hard pressed to have a worse year next year unless he loses at RG. I think he'll do quite a bit better.
 
Federer 2013 was terrible, old and slow and had no confidence. Nadal 2014 still had a better season than anyone not named Djokovic.
 
MichaelNadal said:
Nadal lost that step quite a while ago. There is no predicting tennis. We'll have to see what happens. Nadal would be hard pressed to have a worse year next year unless he loses at RG. I think he'll do quite a bit better.
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But with these top guys it's about how they do vs. each other. So the relative decline is important. For Nadal, it's hard to have a worse year vs. REST OF THE TOUR. Against Fed/Djoker, the time will tell.

I just have a feel that 2015 could be the closest in years between the three!
 
MichaelNadal said:
Nadal lost that step quite a while ago. There is no predicting tennis. We'll have to see what happens. Nadal would be hard pressed to have a worse year next year unless he loses at RG. I think he'll do quite a bit better.
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Lol, that's not what you were saying last week after his loss to Coric - it was all doom and gloom in some of your posts. I guess the dust just had to settle a bit didn't it? :wink:
 
torpantennis said:
But with these top guys it's about how they do vs. each other. So the relative decline is important. For Nadal, it's hard to have a worse year vs. REST OF THE TOUR. Against Fed/Djoker, the time will tell.

I just have a feel that 2015 could be the closest in years between the three!
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Fed has you so pumped up, :lol: it's cute.

Djokovic2011 said:
Lol, that's not what you were saying last week after his loss to Coric - it was all doom and gloom in some of your posts. I guess the dust just had to settle a bit didn't it? :wink:
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Yes, personal analyzer, I needed time to see the big picture. I still don't feel any more optimistic than I did then about him coming back and cleaning house, because it's not realistic. I stand by my statement that it would be hard for him to have a worse 2015 than 2014 unless he loses RG. He can really only do better, not a wild statement.
 
I'm not sure how long Nadal will be able to keep taking these breaks and coming back to light up the tour. It sounds like people are expecting it just because we've seen it a few times already, and I think that's a little presumptuous at least, but I also wouldn't count him out at 29 either.
 
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