Nadal a lower level player than Federer/Djokovic says Fognini

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Not as low as the level of some ceilings though:

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I am not able to watch this clip without laughing out. Too good. And the calm Muller who is interrupted in his preps... :D
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru


LONDON — Rafael Nadal will have to wait another year to win the ATP Finals.

The top-ranked Nadal withdrew from the elite, season-ending tournament after losing his opening match to David Goffin, 7-6 (5), 6-7 (4), 6-4, on Monday at the O2 Arena.

Nadal pulled out of the Paris Masters at the quarterfinal stage 10 days ago and admitted ahead of the ATP Finals, which is played on indoor hardcourts, that his knees were still “not perfect.”

Despite having qualified 13 consecutive times for the ATP Finals, only eight of which he has been fit enough to compete in, Nadal has never won the event. He will be replaced his Spanish compatriot Pablo Carreño Busta, a United States Open semifinalist this year.

“My season is finished,” Nadal said. “Yeah, I had the commitment with the event, with the city, with myself. I tried hard. I did the thing that I had to do to try to be ready to play. I tried, but seriously was miracle to be very close in the score during the match.”

 


LONDON — Rafael Nadal will have to wait another year to win the ATP Finals.

The top-ranked Nadal withdrew from the elite, season-ending tournament after losing his opening match to David Goffin, 7-6 (5), 6-7 (4), 6-4, on Monday at the O2 Arena.

Nadal pulled out of the Paris Masters at the quarterfinal stage 10 days ago and admitted ahead of the ATP Finals, which is played on indoor hardcourts, that his knees were still “not perfect.”

Despite having qualified 13 consecutive times for the ATP Finals, only eight of which he has been fit enough to compete in, Nadal has never won the event. He will be replaced his Spanish compatriot Pablo Carreño Busta, a United States Open semifinalist this year.

“My season is finished,” Nadal said. “Yeah, I had the commitment with the event, with the city, with myself. I tried hard. I did the thing that I had to do to try to be ready to play. I tried, but seriously was miracle to be very close in the score during the match.”

Last event of the season, in which he still played. Played all the slams, masters, four ATP 500s
 

killerboss

Professional
This has strangely become a popular opinion recently despite both still trailing in slam head to head 4-10 Federer and 6-9 Djokovic. Probably to do with Rafa not being good enough against them in recent times.
 

JaoSousa

Hall of Fame
Lol, call me when this mug achieves at least 1/10000000000000000000000000 of what Nadal achieved in his career. He reached one slam 1/4 final in his whole career and didn't even play it. Well, yeah, he is somehow always facing the worst versions of Nadal-3 times in 2015 (Nadal's worst year) and in MC 2019 when Nadal played his worst clay match in 2005-2019.
Number?
 

joekapa

Legend
The Fog can bag anybody and get away with it. Nadal stands no chance against him, in a lot of aspects.

He is the epitome of what I call European Cool.
 

Oakel

Semi-Pro
Deffo basically saying he prefers Nadal's style to play against. Not slaying him, will it is Fog so maybe there is a little dig.
 
This has strangely become a popular opinion recently despite both still trailing in slam head to head 4-10 Federer and 6-9 Djokovic. Probably to do with Rafa not being good enough against them in recent times.
This goes back to the matchup thing where folks think that Fognini is just saying that because he has won a few over Nadal. It's true that he caught Nadal at a vulnerable time in 2015 like some others did. Still, Fognini at that point had already experienced a high level version of Nadal on multiple surfaces. 2013 Rome Fognini squeezed 4 games from Nadal. Ha, the same treatment Federer got in the final. Nadal was a little off in between that dropping sets in a couple of matches, but good enough. Nadal beat him handily at RG later on 2013 too. It was a competitive straights setter, but with a ton of BP's left on the table 5/18. Probably should have been more one sided. Then, there's 2014 Miami where Nadal won 95.7% 1st serves LOL. Also, 2017 Shanghai Nadal won easily in just over an hour. Fog was off on serve and Nadal made him pay on 2nd serve and BP whole match.

The point of me explaining these details is that Fognini has seen what Nadal has to offer from a pretty good level on various surfaces and court speeds. The quicker Rome vs RG and slower Miami vs Shanghai. He got stomped by Peak Fed in 07' to go with all the other straight set losses. Endured Peak Djokovic beatings barring a couple of matches that he managed to make a contest of sorta. All in all Fognini knows what a lot of fans outside of Nadal fans know. Nadal is more vulnerable throughout the stretch of a season. Fognini isn't so dumb that he thinks Nadal isn't the King of Clay just because he matches up decent with him on it. He's quite aware after getting STOMPED 6-2 6-1 by Djokovic one week followed by Nadal winning Madrid and then beating Djokovic for another FO. Fognini is capable of thinking outside of himself.
 
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tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Fognini is not your average TTW clown .

Top 10, versatile , all court player - has both singles and doubles pedigree .

So don’t dismiss his assessment just because you don’t like it
 
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