Nadal Academy creating champions

sureshs

Bionic Poster

LOBALOT

Legend
Champions come from a lot of academies. Some have hits and great stories of achievement. All (and I mean) all have more stories of kids that don't achieve their dreams.

I personally know of a player that moved to Rafa's academy when he was 12 and graduated from there and was unable to pursue tennis in college even at the lower levels.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
The coaching in Spain is as close to a factory for producing tennis champions as you can get and it is not only the Nadal academy. Many top players right now have spent a lot of time in Spain as young players including Safin, Murray, Khachanov, Rublev, Ruud, FAA etc. and it is not only at the Nadal Academy as there are great ones in Barcelona, Valencia, Majjorca etc..

I think the weather, the emphasis on physicality and movement, standardized drills, heavy topspin generation, emphasis on tactics to build baseline point patterns slowly etc. have all become hallmarks of top Spanish academies. Not to mention the ties to ‘top’ Spanish doctors!

In 2014, Chris Lewit wrote his book Secrets of Spanish Tennis on the subject. According to Lewit, Spain’s success is due to its “sporting culture with a strong club system to develop players, an extensive tournament structure, and a high level of coaching.” Lewitt adds that, “In general, Spanish coaches tend to work with a similar philosophy and method around the country, namely, emphasizing consistency and control, good footwork, endurance, developing a forehand weapon, solid defense, and an indefatigable spirit... players are taught from a young age to be fighters and to ‘suffer’ on the court.”
 
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clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Not all the students at the RNA aspire to becoming top tennis players that is made clear by the academy. The American school has built up a good reputation through the number of students who get good grades enabling them to enter top universities all over the world. The school and the residence at the Sports Center are over subscribed which is why they are being extended.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
What's the business model for these academies?! Parents pay 40-60k/year for lodging/coaching?

I was shocked how much this family was spending. Plus, airfare to and from and travel for his kid to tournaments.

All these places have the same model... Look for the potential great player and the rest get moved into a portion of the academy to keep the money flowing.

So is it the academy that makes the player or is it the great potential players that go and make the academy?

I say it is the player talent and multiple academies that have great coaching and pump out champions can do this.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
Not all the students at the RNA aspire to becoming top tennis players that is made clear by the academy. The American school has built up a good reputation through the number of students who get good grades enabling them to enter top universities all over the world. The school and the residence at the Sports Center are over subscribed which is why they are being extended.

This kid did. A lot do that go there. If they didn't why not go to a top college preparatory school?

I know another kid that was going there that while better also never amounted to anything after high school. I am not faulting Nadal and his school but I just think a blanket statement that his academy produces champions is not accurate. Many academies produce champions and they all produce players that never achieve their dreams.
 

MurraysMetalHip

Hall of Fame
I was shocked how much this family was spending. Plus, airfare to and from and travel for his kid to tournaments.

All these places have the same model... Look for the potential great player and the rest get moved into a portion of the academy to keep the money flowing.

So is it the academy that makes the player or is it the great potential players that go and make the academy?

I say it is the player talent and multiple academies that have great coaching and pump out champions can do this.
I think you can spot potentially great players at a young age. Obviously there’s still no guarantee that they will make it, as genetics kicks in, and the player also needs to retain the hunger and single mindedness. I don’t think you can coach an average player in to a great one.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I think you can spot potentially great players at a young age. Obviously there’s still no guarantee that they will make it, as genetics kicks in, and the player also needs to retain the hunger and single mindedness. I don’t think you can coach an average player in to a great one.

I agree 100%. Thus my argument. Yes, Nadal's school is great. There are a lot of great schools.
 

NeutralFan

G.O.A.T.
The coaching in Spain is as close to a factory for producing tennis champions as you can get and it is not only the Nadal academy. Many top players right now have spent a lot of time in Spain as young players including Safin, Murray, Khachanov, Rublev, Ruud, FAA etc. and it is not only at the Nadal Academy as there are great ones in Barcelona, Valencia, Majjorca etc..

I think the weather, the emphasis on physicality and movement, standardized drills, heavy topspin generation, emphasis on tactics to build baseline point patterns slowly etc. have all become hallmarks of top Spanish academies. Not to mention the ties to ‘top’ Spanish doctors!

In 2014, Chris Lewit wrote his book Secrets of Spanish Tennis on the subject. According to Lewit, Spain’s success is due to its “sporting culture with a strong club system to develop players, an extensive tournament structure, and a high level of coaching.” Lewitt adds that, “In general, Spanish coaches tend to work with a similar philosophy and method around the country, namely, emphasizing consistency and control, good footwork, endurance, developing a forehand weapon, solid defense, and an indefatigable spirit... players are taught from a young age to be fighters and to ‘suffer’ on the court.”

Wrong, Spanish tennis's sucess is down to your average spainish mentality of winning. You can see it in all sports. You come and see spanish football clubs even with small budget fighting tooth and nail. It's over all sporting culture and mentality that makes Spain produce so many great talents in different sports. Tennis is no exception.Marine dominated all top Chinese players in Badminton and that's nothing less than miracle.
 

Beulah Jesus

Hall of Fame
I have been particularly impressed by their students wining grandslams more consistently; last year and this year. The Academy must be doing something right. :)
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Eala moved to the Rafa Nadal Academy (RNA) at 13 years of age. Since joining the RNA she's racked up junior doubles Grand Slam titles at the Australian Open in 2020 and the French Open in 2021, had three podium finishes at the SEA (Southeast Asian) Games in Vietnam 2022, and become the highest ranking Filipina of all time on the pro circuit.

Meet Alex Eala - The tennis trailblazer being praised by Rafa Nadal and Manny Pacquiao (olympics.com)
RNA student Alex Eala (17 y.o.) from the Philippines won the girls' singles title at the 2022 US Open. She is the secod RNA student to become a GS junior singles champion after Dani Rincon, who won the boys' singles title at the US Open last year.


She is #281 in the WTA rankings and is playing in the ITF W85 tournament in California, USA, this week.

(y) to Rafa’s academy!
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Champions come from a lot of academies. Some have hits and great stories of achievement. All (and I mean) all have more stories of kids that don't achieve their dreams.

I personally know of a player that moved to Rafa's academy when he was 12 and graduated from there and was unable to pursue tennis in college even at the lower levels.
The Rafa Nadal International School (RNIS) that is situated within the academy allows young athletes to combine tennis and studies. Graduates from the school can go to college/university. But the school is also open for non-athletes. The person you are talking about, wasn't obviously interested in playing tennis, but he received an excellent education.

¤¤ RNIS is situated within Rafa's academy and allows young athletes to combine tennis and studies. Each student will be prepared to face the university entrance system – including access to American institutions through scholarships and it´s also open for non-athletes students of Mallorca who wish to receive a comprehensive, bilingual education in facilities that are unique in the Balearic Islands [Mallorca is the largest of the Balearic Islands]. All classes are delivered in English by experienced native teachers.¤¤ (Source: the RNIS website)

 

LOBALOT

Legend
The Rafa Nadal International School (RNIS) that is situated within the academy allows young athletes to combine tennis and studies. Graduates from the school can go to college/university. But the school is also open for non-athletes. The person you are talking about, wasn't obviously interested in playing tennis, but he received an excellent education.

¤¤ RNIS is situated within Rafa's academy and allows young athletes to combine tennis and studies. Each student will be prepared to face the university entrance system – including access to American institutions through scholarships and it´s also open for non-athletes students of Mallorca who wish to receive a comprehensive, bilingual education in facilities that are unique in the Balearic Islands [Mallorca is the largest of the Balearic Islands]. All classes are delivered in English by experienced native teachers.¤¤ (Source: the RNIS website)


Sorry but that is just not the case.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
His parents wouldn't have kept him at the academy, if they hadn't been satisfied with what he was doing there.

They kept him there because of tennis. That is why he was there. No they didn't make a champion of him and no obviously they do not make a champion of every kid that goes there for tennis with hopes and dreams of future success in the sport. You can argue if you want but you are flat out wrong.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
They kept him there because of tennis. That is why he was there. No they didn't make a champion of him and no obviously they do not make a champion of every kid that goes there for tennis with hopes and dreams of future success in the sport. You can argue if you want but you are flat out wrong.
I'm sure, his parents were aware of his results there. Students participate in tournaments outside of the academy all the time and info is available to the parents online.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I'm sure, his parents were aware of his results there. Students participate in tournaments outside of the academy all the time and info is available to the parents online.
Yes he participated in those outside tournaments as well. He played quite a few ITF events traveling with the academy players so yes. He did travel and play and his parents were aware and like all kids and like all parents were hopeful in improvement. All parents want the best for their kids.

Look I am not bashing the academy. I am just saying it is no better or worse than the major ones out there. They all have their successes and their failures and from what I have seen the successes occur when a kid shows up with a natural gift. It is really that simple. They develop that gift. If a kid doesn't come in with it rarely does this or any academy produce a champion.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes he participated in those outside tournaments as well. He played quite a few ITF events traveling with the academy players so yes. He did travel and play and his parents were aware and like all kids and like all parents were hopeful in improvement. All parents want the best for their kids.

Look I am not bashing the academy. I am just saying it is no better or worse than the major ones out there. They all have their successes and their failures and from what I have seen the successes occur when a kid shows up with a natural gift. It is really that simple. They develop that gift. If a kid doesn't come in with it rarely does this or any academy produce a champion.
I understood that the main purpose of your comments is to convince readers that Rafa's academy "is no better or worse than the major ones out there."
In your first comment you wrote: "I personally know of a player that moved to Rafa's academy when he was 12 and graduated from there and was unable to pursue tennis in college even at the lower levels." In your latest comment you wrote: "He played quite a few ITF events traveling with the academy players." It's difficult to believe the stories that contradict each other.
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
This kid did. A lot do that go there. If they didn't why not go to a top college preparatory school?

I know another kid that was going there that while better also never amounted to anything after high school. I am not faulting Nadal and his school but I just think a blanket statement that his academy produces champions is not accurate. Many academies produce champions and they all produce players that never achieve their dreams.
But it's not wrong to say the Rafa Academy produces champions. No one has claimed that 100% of the students become champions. Individual application also plays a part. King Charles once met his schoolmate at a homeless center.

 

blauerton

Rookie
Their top student lost the Men's Singles US Open final this year. Too much pushing game style.

Another top student lost to Agut in straight sets recently.

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Thanks @Zara


Blauerton clearly has way too much time on his hands.

ROFLMAO thanks for the laugh. I joined this forum last year, you joined this forum this year, yet you have nearly double the amount of my posts. Clearly you're the one with too much time on your hands.


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LOBALOT

Legend
But it's not wrong to say the Rafa Academy produces champions. No one has claimed that 100% of the students become champions. Individual application also plays a part. King Charles once met his schoolmate at a homeless center.

Correct. I am just saying a lot of academies develop top players and from what I have seen it is the natural talent they attract and then mold vs. what they develop. If they don't get talent they aren't building a champion. In addition, that can be said for all the tennis academies and Nadal's is no better and no worse than any of them.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I understood that the main purpose of your comments is to convince readers that Rafa's academy "is no better or worse than the major ones out there."
In your first comment you wrote: "I personally know of a player that moved to Rafa's academy when he was 12 and graduated from there and was unable to pursue tennis in college even at the lower levels." In your latest comment you wrote: "He played quite a few ITF events traveling with the academy players." It's difficult to believe the stories that contradict each other.

Maybe you need to reread my statements unless you believe playing an ITF event makes you a champion because it certainly does not. There are many fringe players that play ITF events particularly outside the US.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe you need to reread my statements unless you believe playing an ITF event makes you a champion because it certainly does not. There are many fringe players that play ITF events particularly outside the US.
I reread. I repeat what you wrote: "...graduated from there and was unable to pursue tennis in college even at the lower levels."
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
That is correct. I am not sure on the confusion on your part.
There is a big difference between being a champion and being capable of playing tennis at lower levels. You have claimed that the person in question is not capable of playing tennis at lower levels. A large number of pro tennis players are not champions, but they are capable of playing tennis. I wonder why the individual in question is not capable of playing. :unsure:
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Does it mean that all classes are taught only by teachers whose mother tongue is English? No Spanish teachers?
I don't know. My main point was that students receive a good education at the Rafa Nadal International School, after graduating the school the students may go on to college/university.
 
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