Nadal achieved the career golden slam at age 24 (2010) and Djokovic at age 37 (2024)

[Nappa]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

 

[Hitman]

How come Djokovic achieved the career super slam and Nadal couldn't do it ever?

 

[slal1984]

It just was not his time..!!! Maybe he focused on winning more Majors..!!

 

[nolefam_2024]

It just was not his time..!!! Maybe he focused on winning more Majors..!!

 

[rigged]

Djokovic has achieved the career golden masters at 31 and Nadal never did it.

 

[Neptune]

How come Djokovic achieved the career super slam and Nadal couldn't do it ever?

Three Big Fat Holes (Tour Finals, Miami, Paris) could most likely only be achieved in a delusional hypothetical universe, lol.

 

[MichaelNadal]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

Spill ALL the tea lol

 

[nolefam_2024]

Three Big Fat Holes (Tour Finals, Miami, Paris) could most likely only be achieved in a delusional hypothetical universe, lol.

Deluded base

 

[Lauren_Girl']

Triple career Slam and Masters. Where are Nadal's 3 titles in AO, Wimbledon, Miami, Shanghaï, Cincinnati, Paris and ATP Finals?

 

[GoatNo1]

nole achieved:

WTF at 21, rafa?
nole-slam at 29, rafa-slam?
points record at 29, rafa?
CGM at 31, rafa?
CGM2 at 33, rafa?
CGS3 at 36, rafa?
tennis (all big tournaments) at 37, rafa?
6th YE#1 at 32, rafa?
7th YE#1 at 34, rafa?
8th YE#1 at 36, rafa?
nole achieved (rafas weeks at no1) x 2 at 36!

 

[Tennfan123]

Because Nadal had a higher peak and prime. That’s why he achieved all he did from 2005 to 2010.

 

[GoatNo1]

Triple career Slam and Masters. Where are Nadal's 3 titles in AO, Wimbledon, Miami, Shanghaï, Cincinnati, Paris and ATP Finals?

nole has 3x all slams and 3x all mandatory masters but he won MC (as only non mandatory masters) "only" 2 times. so he has "just" 2 CGM. but he is closer to his 3rd than fed and rafa to their 1st (both have 7/9)

 

[NoleFam]

How come the OP set himself up like this?

 

[nolefam_2024]

How come the OP set himself up like this?

This thread is derailed. The same base tried to derail all our threads.

Few bad apples.

 

[Neptune]

What does it tell you when a Rafan creates this kind of thread?
The gap between Nole and Rafa is too big for them to be in the same tier.

When will the public finally see the true big picture? (Thanks to Ivan the Truth)

Career​	vs Top5​	T5 Weight​	vs Top10​	T10 Weight​	vs T11+​	T11+ Weight​	vs All​
Nole​	202 (123-79) 60.89%​	15.09%​	373 (258-115) 69.17%​	27.86%​	966 (860-106) 89.03%​	72.14%​	1339 (1118-221) 83.50%​
Fed​	179 (104-75) 58.10%​	11.73%​	347 (224-123) 64.55%​	22.74%​	1179 (1027-152) 87.11%​	77.26%​	1526 (1251-275) 81.98%​
Rafa​	156 (93-63) 59.62%​	11.94%​	291 (186-105) 63.92%​	22.26%​	1016 (894-122) 87.99%​	77.74%​	1307 (1080-227) 82.63%​
Lendl​	163 (94-69) 57.67%​	12.44%​	257 (165-92) 64.20%​	19.62%​	1053 (903-150) 85.75%​	80.38%​	1310 (1068-242) 81.53%​

 

[nolefam_2024]

What does it tell you when a Rafan creates this kind of thread?
The gap between Nole and Rafa is too big for them to be in the same tier.

It is. There is zero question.

Its 72 to 59 now.

 

[GoatNo1]

What does it tell you when a Rafan creates this kind of thread?
The gap between Nole and Rafa is too big for them to be in the same tier.

true

nole
empty
fed and rafa
sampras, borg and laver
.....

 

[GoatNo1]

It is. There is zero question.

Its 72 to 59 now.

2x rafa + 10 is the best one!

and nole of course won tennis, rafa has never won at miami, paris and WTF

Spoiler

top 3 most important tennis stats:

YE#1: 5-8 (+60%)
weeks: 209-428 (+105%)
slams. 22-24 (+9%)

 

[Lleytonstation]

Because Nadal is


LOSER

Then what are you, lol.

 

[Lleytonstation]

How come the OP set himself up like this?

Because your boys are losing their class. People are tired of it.

 

[NoleFam]

Because your boys are losing their class. People are tired of it.

Who exactly are my boys?

 

[Hitman]

How come the OP set himself up like this?

Bored maybe?

 

[AO13]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

Because he lost in Olympics 2008 SF to Nadal, Olympics 2012 SF to Andy Murray, Olympics 2016 1R to Juan Martin Del Potro and Olympics 2020 SF to Alexander Zverev.

And only Olympics 2016 and 2020 matter because he won Roland Garros in 2016.​

 

[SonnyT]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

Did you fall asleep between 2016 and 2021?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Who exactly are my boys?

Djoker fanboys. Calling Rafa a loser? That is where we are at?

 

[ND-13]

Djokovic was majoring in minors until 2018

 

[SonnyT]

Djokovic defeated Federer in '08 at AO, and Federer never again defeated Djokovic at same slam! Djokovic defeated Federer in '10 at US, overcoming 2 MPs against, and Federer never got the mat at same slam!

Nadal, the non-parallel king of clay, defeated Djokovic at age 27 at '13 RG in what was/is regarded as the best clay match ever!

 

[Djokodalerer31]

Djoker fanboys. Calling Rafa a loser? That is where we are at?

it's because of Bull fanboys like you! You are natural triggers for these sort of reactions...you are ACTING we are REACTING!...

 

[Third Serve]

Spoiler: opening this thread be like

 

[NoleFam]

Djoker fanboys. Calling Rafa a loser? That is where we are at?

Why should someone answer for grown people online just because they support the same player?

 

[gamelovergold]

2x rafa + 10 is the best one!

and nole of course won tennis, rafa has never won at miami, paris and WTF

Spoiler

top 3 most important tennis stats:

YE#1: 5-8 (+60%)
weeks: 209-428 (+105%)
slams. 22-24 (+9%)

Double weeks at #1 . When nadal is only 2 slam behind and biggest rival for beat of this generation. No wonder rafa fan dont like Novak.

 

[TheFifthSet]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

Because Nadal won the event that happens every four years in his first time of asking, a time that coincided with career-best form, where he beat Djokovic in a tight match. Sometimes things just work out that way.

Failing to win a big yearly event like the YEC is a bigger hole than securing the Oly’s on your fifth attempt. Can’t appeal to “timing” there, he had a 17-year window and many opportunities to get it done, in mostly consistent conditions (the late 2000’s slowdown helped, tbqh).

 

[vokazu]

And Djokovic has achieved career Golden Masters Slams GOAT.

Nadal still hasn't won any YEC, Miami Masters and Paris Masters titles.

 

[NatF]

Nadal fans love their cans of worms

 

[Mustard]

Nadal's strength is his big match record on the biggest stages, against the best Federer and against the best Djokovic.

 

[Neptune]

Nadal's strength is his big match record on the biggest stages, against the best Federer and against the best Djokovic.

Rafa only needs to show some strength by challenging Nole more than just twice across three Slam venues (AO, Wimbledon, US Open), or win a few sets against Nole on hard courts in the past 10+ years, while Rafans painfully and helplessly watch Nole winning the GOAT race decisively.

Or fill the three BIG HOLES on his resume.

 

[GoatNo1]

actually nole is bigger at all tiers of big tournaments than rafa inclusive OG:
slams
WTF
OG (G+B > G)
masters

all no1 stats:
YE#1
weeks

other:
nole-slam
CGM
CGS
points record
W%
h2h
top10 wins
top5 wins

 

[Mustard]

Rafa only needs to show some strength by challenging Nole more than just twice across three Slam venues (AO, Wimbledon, US Open), or win a few sets against Nole on hard courts in the past 10+ years, while Rafans painfully and helplessly watch Nole winning the GOAT race decisively.

Or fill the three BIG HOLES on his resume.

LOL. No pain here. Nadal's career has been the most epic. Djokovic winning 3 majors in 2023 to get the major record while Nadal was out injured is just one of those things.

 

[SonnyT]

Nadal's strength is his big match record on the biggest stages, against the best Federer and against the best Djokovic.

Nadal won 1 GS against Djokovic against 5 losses, ex RG post-'11! And he never won another set against Djokovic after that!

 

[Mustard]

Nadal won 1 GS against Djokovic against 5 losses, ex RG post-'11! And he never won another set against Djokovic after that!

So many mental gymnastics there, excluding clay. I'll use propaganda in a simpler way. Nadal beat Djokovic the first 5 times that they met in majors, and Nadal has beaten Djokovic in 6 of the last 10 times that they've met in majors.

 

[SonnyT]

Who's talking before '11: Nadal was either #1 or 2, Djokovic never made it to that level? After Nadal & Djokovic met at '19 AO at last non-RG slam, they met for the final 3 times at RG! Overall, they met at RG two more times than at the non-clay majors!

I'm taking it as is! I don't participate in gymnastics!

 

[fedfan24]

Olympic only comes around every 4 years so Djokovic had to beat Nadal in 08, then somehow overcome prime Nadal at RG by 2012 for golden slam by age 25. Not happening.

 

[fedfan24]

true

nole
empty
fed and rafa
sampras, borg and laver
.....

no one sane puts djokovic in a different tier to Fedal let alone 2 tiers above. He outlasted both and achieved all the stats with federer retired and nadal semi retired since 2021. That’s it.

 

[TripleATeam]

Because he didn't win the Gold medal until that year. Next question.

 

[duaneeo]

How come Djokovic wasn't able to achieve it way earlier in his career?

He couldn't achieve anything early in his career. All of his big records were achieved when he was in his declined 30s.

 

[Mustard]

Who's talking before '11: Nadal was either #1 or 2, Djokovic never made it to that level? After Nadal & Djokovic met at '19 AO at last non-RG slam, they met for the final 3 times at RG! Overall, they met at RG two more times than at the non-clay majors!

I'm taking it as is! I don't participate in gymnastics!

And Nadal won 2 of 3 US Open finals against Djokovic.

And Nadal won 6 of the last 10 matches against Djokovic in majors, and the first 5.

 

[Biotic]

How come Djokovic achieved the career super slam and Nadal couldn't do it ever?

Such feats could never emulated by the one trick pony whose indoors suckage has been a stuff of legend.

The only ATG who couldn't do diddly squat indoors. An insult to tennis history.

 

[Hitman]

Such feats could never emulated by the one trick pony whose indoors suckage has been a stuff of legend.

The only ATG who couldn't do diddly squat indoors. An insult to tennis history.

Was slayed indoors one too many times unfortunately.

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

Was slayed indoors one too many times unfortunately.

why 'unfortunately'?

 

[vokazu]

Nole has the most wins against Big 3, Top 5 and Top 10 players compared to Nadal and Federer.

	Nole	Nadal	Federer
Big 3 wins	58	53	39
Top 5 wins	123	93	104
Top 10 wins	259	186	224