Because Nadal had a premature ejac and Nole has a long lasting GOAT climax.
Nadal achieved the career golden slam at age 24 (2010) and Djokovic at age 37 (2024)
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Do you always have to repeat yourself?
(I read it, and it was utter garbage, for the reasons I stated!)
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Federer had slam HC taken from him by Djokovic at age 20 & 23 in '08 & '10. Federer never recovered and won only once with a healthy Djokovic in those two slams, '10 AO!
2011 was taken from Nadal, while everyone thought was going to be a long reign, by Djokovic!
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zagor
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Atleast he won it in the end, rose to the occasion one last time and turned that clock around, champion stuff. Shut up a lot of people with Nadal avatars on this forum (and beyond).
Nadal never won YEC on the other hand. Harder to win off clay when you're basically guaranteed a tough draw and can't win every point spamming high balls to the BH I guess.
After 2011, Djokovic had the most weeks at #1 in the 10's of any player. He was injured in 2016-18, that was when Federer took advantage, won last 3 slams and retook #1!
What gall Fedfans had in saying Djokovic took advantage of Federer's age! It was Federer who took advantage of Djokovic's elbow injury. Or he couldn't have the last 3 slams! After all, he was 2-9 slams ex '11 vs Djokovic, with the last win in 2012, when he was at a ripe old age of 31! Federer at older age than 31 never won slams against Djokovic! Does the ripe old age of 31 sound like retirement to you?
BTW, Nadal won at '13 US, his last non-clay slam vs Djokovic. Nadal aged 27 at the time, he went on to win 6 more RG's!
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MichaelNadal
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Mustard
Bionic Poster
Utter garbage for Djokovic fans' delusions, most certainly.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
When Djokovic won his first major, Federer had 12 majors
When Djokovic won his second major, Federer had 16 majors
When Federer won his 17th major, Djokovic had 5 majors
Heck, going into their 2014 Wimbledon final, Federer had nearly three times as many majors as Djokovic, i.e. 17 to 6. Federer was 32 years and 11 months old, then. That's older than what Jimmy Connors was when he beat Ivan Lendl for the last time in late 1984 in Tokyo, which took Connors to a 13-5 head-to-head lead over Lendl. Lendl won their next 17 matches against each other, finishing the rivalry at 22-13 to Lendl.
When Djokovic had an injured elbow in 2016-18, Federer and Nadal exchanged 6 straight slams, with none able to win 2 straight! Federer was 36-37 at the time. When Djokovic had an elbow surgery, he came back and promptly won 3 straight slams, beginning with '18 WB!
Why wasn't Federer able to win slams between '12 US and '16 US, when he was 31 and 34? Because he ran into Djokovic, who was the one to defeat Federer at slam finals. Need I remind that Federer lost the slam race because he was 2-9 slams post-'11 against Djokovic?
And Federer lost 3 straight slams to Djokovic, beginning at '15 WB: meaning Federer was playing fantastic tennis that only Djokovic could take him out!
Why wasn't Federer able to win slams between '12 US and '16 US, when he was 31 and 34? Because he ran into Djokovic, who was the one to defeat Federer at slam finals. Need I remind that Federer lost the slam race because he was 2-9 slams post-'11 against Djokovic?
And Federer lost 3 straight slams to Djokovic, beginning at '15 WB: meaning Federer was playing fantastic tennis that only Djokovic could take him out!
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Well, Federer was 6 years older, he was supposed to win 6 years sooner!
Federer had MP's against Djokovic at '19 WB final. If he had converted, he'd have won at age 38. Djokovic is only 37 now, he failed to win any slam this year! So don't throw age at Djokovic!
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Federer was 37 years and 11 months, so 37. The 2019 Wimbledon men's singles final was on 14 July 2019. You're not 38 until you get to your 38th birthday, which for Federer was 8 August 2019.
Geez!!!
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Yes, Federer was 37 at the time, not 38 as is often falsely claimed.
During Jimmy Connors' legendary 1991 US Open run to the semi finals, they were saying that he was 38 in the early rounds, until the day of his 39th birthday when he played against Aaron Krickstein in the fourth round.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Lets just say the reaction to Djokovic winning OG was a gift to Nadal in terms of the goat debate. Reason being it highlighted how great Nadal was to achieve what he did during the peaks on the Big 3 and Murray..add to that he also did the FO-W-USO treble as well in one season.
Ive said it before, but there is a reason Nadal looks so relaxed and happy with life. He knows what he did, and when he did it. Personal gratification ultimately beats what anyone else thinks.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Who cares about indoor tennis lmao.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Djokovic the greatest ever at best of 3 sets. Nobody disputes that just as. until Alcaraz arrived, who may take this crown, but right now Nadal the greatest best of 5 sets player ever.
djokovic the conqueror
Professional
Nadal fans love bringing up the past because they in denial that Nadal is done. Meanwhile Djokovic can still win more big titles even in his advanced age because he knows how to properly take care of his body.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
As the dust settles and we look back at respective career achievements, the timing of Nadal's achievements was just perfect. USO 2013 and RG2022 i think in hindsight the most critical victories of his career.
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Nadal is 38 lol, he has played about 9 years longer than any Nadal fan expected. Trust me, Nadal fans are all good. He took care of his business in the Big 4 Era. Its Alcaraz time now.
Neptune
Hall of Fame
What nonsense is that?
messiahrobins
Hall of Fame
Just facts.
Nadal was the greatest on clay! Djokovic had 21-8 advantage on non-clay slams over Nadal!
Djokovic led 2-1 in 5-set matches over Nadal! Nadal won the one 5-set match on RG!
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tennisjedi
Hall of Fame
Exactly. Nadal has provided tennis fans a lot of memorable and epic matches. I thought Nadal wouldn't play past the age of 30, yet he ended up winning 8 slams in his 30's.
inflation_era
Semi-Pro
Doesn't matter, Fed is the best player to ever pick up a racquet.
jmacdaununder2
Legend
Another day another cake walk draw - is Roy still good enough to take advantage?
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