Nadal after loss: "I think I wasn't 100 percent ready to play at this level"

FedNad316 said:
What I dont understand that everybody is gung-ho and upbeat and talking about Nadal being back when he wins......but when he loses.....a totally different spin machine PR gets underway and I dont like what he says during his interviews at times.....Its as if its only about how nadal plays that determines the fate of a match.....the opponent has to rely on nadal being 100% or not to win/lose......If nadal could give more credit to the opposition and then state that he may not be 100% I got no problem....
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You've got your facts wrong and please don't generalise.If some Nadal fans make excuses for him,it doesn't mean all of us do.
Nadal said in the after match interview that Djokovic was too consistent,and to aggresive for him and that the serb mantained his good level of play the whole match.This is Nadal saying Novak was better.
After that he said he "wasn't 100% ready to play at this level".He said 2 days ago that his knees were fine so it's not something physical.What Nadal meant is that the top guys are too good for him in his current situation,coming off a 2 month injury break and that he cannot get near their level so fast after coming back.So he is not ready yet.What's the big deal?
 
namelessone said:
You've got your facts wrong and please don't generalise.If some Nadal fans make excuses for him,it doesn't mean all of us do.
Nadal said in the after match interview that Djokovic was too consistent,and to aggresive for him and that the serb mantained his good level of play the whole match.This is Nadal saying Novak was better.
After that he said he "wasn't 100% ready to play at this level".He said 2 days ago that his knees were fine so it's not something physical.What Nadal meant is that the top guys are too good for him in his current situation,coming off a 2 month injury break and that he cannot get near their level so fast after coming back.So he is not ready yet.What's the big deal?
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The big deal is the way what he says get interpreted by fans and others....When fed gives similar comments in his matches where he says or does not say something....all the *******s are quick to criticize and pull him down - on how he is arrogant, doesnt give his opponents enough credit.....All of Nadal's interviews post FO have been about 100%, 200%, 99% ....all this talk about how he is a particular percent (knee wise, game wise, confidence wise) is getting boring and repetitive.......I just hope he starts talking less with his mouth and more with his racket
 
IF Nadal wins, he's 100%. i.e. when he's 100% no one can beat him. Therefore if his record for the year is for example 75-4. Those 4 losses he was not 100%. Pathetic.
 
namelessone said:
Actually in this particular quote there is no controversy.Nothing can be interpreted.All Nadal said was that he is not ready to take on the big guys and yet this was painfully obvious in his matches with delpo and djokovic.
But a lot of ****s just read the title,saw 100% part and thought it was about knees,or thought it as some kind of excuse from Nadal and spurted out nonsense from their keyboards.
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I didn't watch the match live, but instead watched a video of it earlier today. I agree, he played badly. It's not a case of he played well and Djokovic played better. He just played bad. That is not to say I think he may have won if he'd been playing his best, but at least his performance would have been of a higher level.

I really just hope he'll improve and will be more like his former self as time goes on, with the number of matches he will play this HC season.

****s need to stop talking about the knees. I don't think it's the knees. I really think it's more a mental/confidence thing.
 
Maybe he tanked the match so he wouldn't have to face Federer to prevent him from improving the H2H. After all, isn't H2H the only thing this guy has left? We know Borg is the superior FO player. What else does he have?
 
bruce38 said:
IF Nadal wins, he's 100%. i.e. when he's 100% no one can beat him. Therefore if his record for the year is for example 75-4. Those 4 losses he was not 100%. Pathetic.
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Nice too see someone who understands it.
 
Nadal did not probably play his best, sure. But he was crushed after all. If Nadal was 100% in 2008 form, he still would have lost that match to Djoker 7-5, 6-4.
 
I just watched a video of the match. Nadal played well? Do you remember what he used to play like? What was up with that 3.0 rated serve! It was atrocious! I know he doesn't fair well on fast HC like this, but I hope he has a good reason to be playing like a fool.

And I completely agree. I didn't see any of the interviews afterwards, but there's no shame in losing to a player like Djoker even if Nadal had played his best game. I think Djokovic would have still come out on top.
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The serve was never Nadal strongest feature, Nadal has never been dependent on the quality of the serve. So why would it be a problem now? But ok I will not contest the fact that Nadal served below standard, but you can ask the question why was this?
I think if a player is constantly under pressure(after the second serve, thus losing half the points) he is going to make more mistakes on his serve and also he is going to take more risk if the first serve is not good enough to trouble the opponent. I don't think this stat is very strange. Djoker was pushing Nadal to serve better but Nadal just could not deliver.
 
bruce38 said:
Nadal did not probably play his best, sure. But he was crushed after all. If Nadal was 100% in 2008 form, he still would have lost that match to Djoker 7-5, 6-4.
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I agree. Ugh. I've pointed this out in about 3 other threads. Djokovic is simply better on HC.

I don't understand why some Nadal fans don't understand this.

Sorry. *******s.
 
Terr said:
I agree. Ugh. I've pointed this out in about 3 other threads. Djokovic is simply better on HC.

I don't understand why some Nadal fans don't understand this.

Sorry. *******s.
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Yes i agree, on fast HC at least, on really slow hc its a lot tougher.
 
Terr said:
I agree. Ugh. I've pointed this out in about 3 other threads. Djokovic is simply better on HC.

I don't understand why some Nadal fans don't understand this.

Sorry. *******s.
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Yeah, but Nadal (in good form) shouldn't be getting breadsticked by Djoker...

If Nadal's losing to Djokovic on hardcourts, he should atleast do it in style and 3 sets is necessary.

Not that I agree that Djokers is better than Nadal on HC
 
Blinkism said:
Yeah, but Nadal (in good form) shouldn't be getting breadsticked by Djoker...

If Nadal's losing to Djokovic on hardcourts, he should atleast do it in style and 3 sets is necessary.

Not that I agree that Djokers is better than Nadal on HC
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3 sets is pushing it...
 
Blinkism said:
Yeah, but Nadal (in good form) shouldn't be getting breadsticked by Djoker...

If Nadal's losing to Djokovic on hardcourts, he should atleast do it in style and 3 sets is necessary.

Not that I agree that Djokers is better than Nadal on HC
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Of course I think it'd be a much better match up if Nadal had been in good form. But I still think Djokovic is a better HC player. Especially on a surface as fast as Cincy.
 
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He did, but that was BEFORE the match
 
FedNad316 said:
The big deal is the way what he says get interpreted by fans and others....When fed gives similar comments in his matches where he says or does not say something....all the *******s are quick to criticize and pull him down - on how he is arrogant, doesnt give his opponents enough credit.....All of Nadal's interviews post FO have been about 100%, 200%, 99% ....all this talk about how he is a particular percent (knee wise, game wise, confidence wise) is getting boring and repetitive.......I just hope he starts talking less with his mouth and more with his racket
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"The big deal is the way what he says gets interpreted by fans and others".
I had to stop there.Who the f**k care how fans interpret things? Look,fans are subjective and will always pull for their favorite player,even to the point of blind fanboyism.I can only comment on what Nadal says,not what some of his fans say.And why do you pay attention to people you consider ****s? What do you have to prove to them about Federer for example? If their minds are set on one thing,nothing will change their mind so it's a lost battle from the start.I didn't see eye to eye with some other users on this site about Nadal but at least they brought some arguments up front(or at least tried),so I didn't consider them ****s.****s are users who go on like a broken record about a particular subject considering a particular player and who won't listen to other points of view.

Nadal didn't make special interviews so could say how good or bad he is feeling.After the problem with the knees there have been tens of articles or reports on how Nadal is doing so it's amplified by the media.After every match in Montreal/Cincy he was asked by reporters how is he feeling.TVE even made a special show at Nadal's house and it was mostly centered around his knee problem.He is an important player so this whole knee issue is blown out of proportion to the point that percentages are all we see,like the famous 100%.Add to this countless of useless threads on TW and other tennis forum about Nadal's health and you normally get sick of hearing about the knees.I only read about 3 or 4 interviews since FO in which Nadal talked about his knees in more than 2 or 3 sentences.Most of the other statements regarding the knees were him answering questions from reporters.

It's not like he is entering the press room and start screaming "hey you wanna know how my knee is?".If someone needs to stop this whole knee issue it's the media.We get it,Nadal has bad knees.Let's hope he gets his game together so we can talk more about matches and less about his health.
If Nadal says his knees are fine(which he did) then his knees are fine,no matter what fanboys say.It's his game that needs calibrating.
 
Blinkism said:
He said his knees felt 100%

I don't think that his game was 100%, though...

We've seen him play better than last night. He's just working his way back, though.
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Ok so knees are out of the discussion, fine. So basically now he's saying he's had too much rest. In the past, it was that he was so exhausted at this stage of the season. So now he's too FRESH for the USO??? Give me a break. This guy is just full of excuse after excuse.
 
bruce38 said:
Ok so knees are out of the discussion, fine. So basically now he's saying he's had too much rest. In the past, it was that he was so exhausted at this stage of the season. So now he's too FRESH for the USO??? Give me a break. This guy is just full of excuse after excuse.
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He has played 6 matches after a 2 month break,and out of those 6 only 2 were matches with really good players who can force him to up his level of play,with delpo in montreal and with djoker in cincy.He is not too FRESH,he doesn't have enough competitive practice to calibrate his game.He didn't play bad just against delpo/djokovic.Most of his matches after his return were terrible,even though he won them.He is good physically but he needs more matches to get into the groove.
 
bruce38 said:
Ok so knees are out of the discussion, fine. So basically now he's saying he's had too much rest. In the past, it was that he was so exhausted at this stage of the season. So now he's too FRESH for the USO??? Give me a break. This guy is just full of excuse after excuse.
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Woah woah. He didn't personally say he's too 'fresh' for the USO. That's fan talk.

And namelessone, I was reading on his blog that Uncle Toni says Rafa would say his knees are 100% even if they weren't.

Is everyone confused enough yet?
 
bruce38 said:
Ok so knees are out of the discussion, fine. So basically now he's saying he's had too much rest. In the past, it was that he was so exhausted at this stage of the season. So now he's too FRESH for the USO??? Give me a break. This guy is just full of excuse after excuse.
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I don't think he's making excuses. He's just commenting on why he wasn't able to beat Djokovic, when he would be more capable if he was more in form.

I don't think "too much rest" has anything to do with it. Nadal's playing in to form, what's so wrong with that? Plus, Djokovic played well so it wasn't just the fact that Nadal was losing as it was also Djokovic winning convincingly.
 
Nadal is turning out to be a whinner and sore loser just like Federer always was...

Djokovic, was playing out of his mind yesterday and if he plays like that, fed is going down to!

PERIOD!
 
namelessone said:
He has played 6 matches after a 2 month break,and out of those 6 only 2 were matches with really good players who can force him to up his level of play,with delpo in montreal and with djoker in cincy.He is not too FRESH,he doesn't have enough competitive practice to calibrate his game.He didn't play bad just against delpo/djokovic.Most of his matches after his return were terrible,even though he won them.He is good physically but he needs more matches to get into the groove.
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If he wasn't FRESH it wouldn't have been so difficult for DelPo to beat him in that first set. It's not like he wasn't practicing in those 2 months, probably quite hard.
 
Gorecki said:
Nadal is turning out to be a whinner and sore loser just like Federer always was...

Djokovic, was playing out of his mind yesterday and if he plays like that, fed is going down to!

PERIOD!
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In your dreams buddy!:twisted:
 
Nadal is clearly saying he isint 100% back to form yet. Meaning that he still has to get some matches under his belt to compete with the big guns. Not for 1 second did I ever get the impression that he was referring to his health.
 
catskillthunder said:
Nadal is clearly saying he isint 100% back to form yet. Meaning that he still has to get some matches under his belt to compete with the big guns. Not for 1 second did I ever get the impression that he was referring to his health.
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I like you and your opinions. :)

Sane people do exist on these boards! Oy Vey!
 
Terr said:
I like you and your opinions. :)

Sane people do exist on these boards! Oy Vey!
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I honestly believe that people just want to jump on Nadal any chance they get. One of my best friends cannot stand Nadal, but admits that he is exciting and good for the game of tennis because of the rivalry with Fed. I myself think tennis needs a healthy Nadal to keep the exposure high. I work at a pretty large company and when I went back to work on the Monday following last year's Wimbledon final, at least 10 of my non tennis fan co-workers said they enjoyed watching that match. Granted there was probably nothing else on worth watching at the time, but a few of those people that watched the match are now full time tennis watchers because of it. So yea, we need Rafa in the game. Like him or not, but you have to respect what he does for our sport.
 
namelessone said:
I didn't understand the bolded part.What is THE ONLY element of dramaqueen in Nadal? I don't think the ATP wants him back like this.Nadal wanted to come back.As soon as he felt his knees were good enough for a masters event he entered montreak,with low expectations obviously.
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The spin. Not the spin of the ball. Spin in the pressroom.
 
namelessone said:
"The big deal is the way what he says gets interpreted by fans and others".
I had to stop there.Who the f**k care how fans interpret things? Look,fans are subjective and will always pull for their favorite player,even to the point of blind fanboyism.I can only comment on what Nadal says,not what some of his fans say.And why do you pay attention to people you consider ****s? What do you have to prove to them about Federer for example? If their minds are set on one thing,nothing will change their mind so it's a lost battle from the start.I didn't see eye to eye with some other users on this site about Nadal but at least they brought some arguments up front(or at least tried),so I didn't consider them ****s.****s are users who go on like a broken record about a particular subject considering a particular player and who won't listen to other points of view.

Nadal didn't make special interviews so could say how good or bad he is feeling.After the problem with the knees there have been tens of articles or reports on how Nadal is doing so it's amplified by the media.After every match in Montreal/Cincy he was asked by reporters how is he feeling.TVE even made a special show at Nadal's house and it was mostly centered around his knee problem.He is an important player so this whole knee issue is blown out of proportion to the point that percentages are all we see,like the famous 100%.Add to this countless of useless threads on TW and other tennis forum about Nadal's health and you normally get sick of hearing about the knees.I only read about 3 or 4 interviews since FO in which Nadal talked about his knees in more than 2 or 3 sentences.Most of the other statements regarding the knees were him answering questions from reporters.

It's not like he is entering the press room and start screaming "hey you wanna know how my knee is?".If someone needs to stop this whole knee issue it's the media.We get it,Nadal has bad knees.Let's hope he gets his game together so we can talk more about matches and less about his health.
If Nadal says his knees are fine(which he did) then his knees are fine,no matter what fanboys say.It's his game that needs calibrating.
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Look I am a huge fan of Rafa as a player..there are certain aspects of his game that I may not like....but his fighting spirit , endurance and his never-give-up attitude was something I hugely respected......Off late I just feel let down by some of his mannerisms....dont know if it is because of him feeling low on confidence or something else bothering him.....He just looks a different person.....I have not really liked the way he has been going about handling the PR post injury
 
bruce38 said:
If he wasn't FRESH it wouldn't have been so difficult for DelPo to beat him in that first set. It's not like he wasn't practicing in those 2 months, probably quite hard.
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According to his own statements he didn't do light practice until the second month.The only practice he did in the first month was the practice for the 1 DC tie match which he didn't even enter.
And I don't think practice with a few hitting partners can replace competitive matches against guys like Federer,Murray,Djokovic and so on.I watched most of his matches since his return and his level of play has been mediocre at best.He barely beat guys like mathieu and could only last 1 set against the big boys,delpo and djoker.His shots lack consistency but on the bright side at least he moves well.He is rusty and there were reports of him spraying balls all over he place in practice before Montreak so it's clear he isn't there yet game-wise.
 
slice bh compliment said:
First set. Second set was a beating. Raf played well in that one.
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First set that mathieu should have won if he didn't choke.Mathieu is a legendary choker.And it's not even the result than annoyed me.It was Nadal making uncharacteristic mistakes.I have no problem admitting when Nadal is being outplayed.But when he is giving away points on easy shots it annoys me,especially since Nadal is a percentage player.
 
bruce38 said:
This doesn't really make sense. If one can last only one set, that would logically be the first set when you go all out. He was crushed 6-1 against Djoker in the first.
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I assume you watched the nadal-djoker match.The scoreline could have been worse if Djokovic would have maintained his level in the second set as well.He took his foot of the gas a bit and allowed Nadal to win more games.And those games weren't easy games on Nadal's part.They were hard fought games.

On this surface,and with this mediocre after-injury game Nadal cannot dictate play.He barely did it against weaker players.The delpo/djoker matches showed us that at the moment he cannot hang with the top5.I don't think it's a problem at the moment.However if we reach the middle of september and it's still an issue then his season is pretty much compromised for him.If he doesn't play well on HC after USO then he has no shot at the TMC,not to mention the smaller HC events after USO.
 
Going into the US Open, it is kind of hard to predict how well Nadal will do. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes it to the finals, but an early exit is just as likely if he has a bad day.
 
Just so you know, they mentioned that Nadal's Lower abdominal area was taped...not a good place for a tennis player imo.

Nobody mentions this being a major factor, but i would venture this would affect anyone's game.
 
It's nice to see that this board will dish out their flames when Nadal says something like this. Federer's interviews have been getting cherry-picked by Nadal fans on this board for as long as he's been around.

BTW, once again Nads fails to meet Federer in a hardcourt final. Is everyone starting to understand why their h2h is lopsided?
 
edmondsm said:
It's nice to see that this board will dish out their flames when Nadal says something like this. Federer's interviews have been getting cherry-picked by Nadal fans on this board for as long as he's been around.

BTW, once again Nads fails to meet Federer in a hardcourt final. Is everyone starting to understand why their h2h is lopsided?
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everyone who isn't a ******* or a sampras groupie realizes why the H2H is the way it is. It's a matter of getting through to that section of the populace before we can move on as a sport watching society.
 
BallzofSkill said:
everyone who isn't a ******* or a sampras groupie realizes why the H2H is the way it is. It's a matter of getting through to that section of the populace before we can move on as a sport watching society.
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Were some of you actually expecting Nadal to make finals in Montreal or Cincy after his comeback for injury?
 
Nadal was not making excuses. Saying you are not ready to beat top players is just common sense given how much time he was out. Pathetic haters have to make negative remarks everytime Nadal speaks.
 
namelessone said:
Were some of you actually expecting Nadal to make finals in Montreal or Cincy after his comeback for injury?
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I wasn't, and I don't care about his comment either. But maybe you weren't reading the boards the last few years when Fed would say something like, "my back wasn't feeling that great" and there would immediately be 15 threads calling Federer an arrogant excuse maker.
 
Nadal_Freak said:
Nadal was not making excuses. Saying you are not ready to beat top players is just common sense given how much time he was out. Pathetic haters have to make negative remarks everytime Nadal speaks.
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pathetic posters having to hide behind new personalties and not being banned in both as per MOd rules...
 
backhand winner said:
Nadal was not making excuses. Saying you are not ready to beat top players is just common sense given how much time he was out. Pathetic haters have to make negative remarks everytime Nadal speaks.
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Again, go search out the million and one threads that Nad and Djokovic fanboys created about every negative thing Federer said over the last 3+ years.
 
Gorecki said:
pathetic posters having to hide behind new personalties and not being banned in both as per MOd rules...
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Shut up *******. I wanted to change names because of idiots like you attacking me just because it says (Nadal_Freak) on the post. And they wouldn't let me change my name.
 
backhand winner said:
Shut up *******. I wanted to change names because of idiots like you attacking me just because it says (Nadal_Freak) on the post. And they wouldn't let me change my name.
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reported...
thanks.. this is all i wanted
 
BallzofSkill said:
everyone who isn't a ******* or a sampras groupie realizes why the H2H is the way it is. It's a matter of getting through to that section of the populace before we can move on as a sport watching society.
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First of all who gives a crap about h2h when both players are still active? Second,even if we cared about it and removed the clay matches it's 5-4 to Federer,not exactly a dominating lead is it? And these matches on grass and HC were in fed's prime so it can't be excused.

But whatever,this h2h discussions are really getting boring.
 
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