Nadal and the French Open next year

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So in reality how do most of you feel Nadal performs at the French Open next year? Is he going to go back to dominating it? Wondering what is the overall consensus. This if of course assuming he is healthy and so is everyone else.
 
I think he'll lose to JMDP in a 5-setter, probably before the final.

I have a feeling that Djokovic will win RG 2010 by beating Nadal-slayer Del Potro.
 
guess i was wrong---he is actually the overwhelming favourite--
these are the current odds


Rafael Nadal 1.50
Juan Martin del Potro 5.00
Roger Federer 5.00
Novak Djokovic 10.00
Andy Murray 15.00
Fernando Verdasco 26.00
Robin Soderling 34.00
Nikolay Davydenko 34.00
Gael Monfils 51.00
David Nalbandian 67.00
Fernando Gonzalez 67.00
David Ferrer 67.00
Marin Cilic 81.00
Jeremy Chardy 81.00
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 101.00
Richard Gasquet 101.00
Juan Carlos Ferrero 101.00
Stanislas Wawrinka 101.00
Gilles Simon 126.00
Andy Roddick 151.00
Tommy Robredo 151.00
Lleyton Hewitt 201.00
Tommy Haas 201.00
Ivo Karlovic 201.00
Tomas Berdych 201.00
Ernest Gulbis 2
 
whether he is healthy or not has no bearing, since he is always injured anyway.

That said, I don't see him winning it if he doesn't make drastic cuts to his schedule.
 
I think he'll win, but not in the same dominating fashion like in 2008. He'll lose sets this time around.
 
aphex said:
guess i was wrong---he is actually the overwhelming favourite--
these are the current odds


Rafael Nadal 1.50
Juan Martin del Potro 5.00
Roger Federer 5.00
Novak Djokovic 10.00
Andy Murray 15.00
Fernando Verdasco 26.00
Robin Soderling 34.00
Nikolay Davydenko 34.00
Gael Monfils 51.00
David Nalbandian 67.00
Fernando Gonzalez 67.00
David Ferrer 67.00
Marin Cilic 81.00
Jeremy Chardy 81.00
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 101.00
Richard Gasquet 101.00
Juan Carlos Ferrero 101.00
Stanislas Wawrinka 101.00
Gilles Simon 126.00
Andy Roddick 151.00
Tommy Robredo 151.00
Lleyton Hewitt 201.00
Tommy Haas 201.00
Ivo Karlovic 201.00
Tomas Berdych 201.00
Ernest Gulbis 2
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I think you forgot to add 3 to 10 zeros for his odds.
 
aphex said:
guess i was wrong---he is actually the overwhelming favourite--
these are the current odds


Rafael Nadal 1.50
Juan Martin del Potro 5.00
Roger Federer 5.00
Novak Djokovic 10.00
Andy Murray 15.00
Fernando Verdasco 26.00
Robin Soderling 34.00
Nikolay Davydenko 34.00
Gael Monfils 51.00
David Nalbandian 67.00
Fernando Gonzalez 67.00
David Ferrer 67.00
Marin Cilic 81.00
Jeremy Chardy 81.00
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 101.00
Richard Gasquet 101.00
Juan Carlos Ferrero 101.00
Stanislas Wawrinka 101.00
Gilles Simon 126.00
Andy Roddick 151.00
Tommy Robredo 151.00
Lleyton Hewitt 201.00
Tommy Haas 201.00
Ivo Karlovic 201.00
Tomas Berdych 201.00
Ernest Gulbis 2
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i hate bookies..soderling is said to have less chance than both murray and djokovic. i could see why for djokovic, but come on, murray has a better chance than he does? did they NOT watch this year's tournament? murray lost to gonzo in 4 sets in the quarters, and Soderling BEAT Nadal in 4 in the fourth round!

i really don't see nadal winning this year. i expect him to go out to a big hitter in the quarters, possibly Cilic, Del Potro, or maybe soderling again. They've figured him out on the surface now.

of course, if he manages to change his game plan against these guys enough that he starts beating them again, my opinions may change. but right now, his vulnerability on all surfaces to these guys is a glaring one.
 
Cup8489 said:
i hate bookies..soderling is said to have less chance than both murray and djokovic. i could see why for djokovic, but come on, murray has a better chance than he does? did they NOT watch this year's tournament? murray lost to gonzo in 4 sets in the quarters, and Soderling BEAT Nadal in 4 in the fourth round!

i really don't see nadal winning this year. i expect him to go out to a big hitter in the quarters, possibly Cilic, Del Potro, or maybe soderling again. They've figured him out on the surface now.

of course, if he manages to change his game plan against these guys enough that he starts beating them again, my opinions may change. but right now, his vulnerability on all surfaces to these guys is a glaring one.
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LOL. Keep dreaming. Rafa was injured. How come Soderling didn't beat Rafa at Rome this yr? :rolleyes:
 
drakulie said:
whether he is healthy or not has no bearing, since he is always injured anyway.

That said, I don't see him winning it if he doesn't make drastic cuts to his schedule.
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To the bolded part-Precisely.

The thing with Nadal so far is that there is always a part of the season during which he kind of struggles.This year the patch came early with Nadal performing well above his usual standards in the first part of the season.
That said he would still be the best bet to win the French Open,thats for sure.
 
I honestly dont think he will win it in 2010, neither will Federer,he might aswell go out early in 2010, i mean job is done,case closed! :) Lots of players have showed lately that they can beat him (not on clay but anyway) so i think they will bring that knowledge into the claycourt-game aswell, i definetely see someone pulling a "Soderling" against Nadal, playing out of their own league, transing as we say in Sweden. I think Soderling did the rest of the ATP-guys a huge favour. And i think guys like Del Potro and Cilic have raised their games even more comes the FO.
 
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8pNADAL said:
he will win it into his 30s
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Ih thats your honest opinion you know a lot less about tennis than i thought you did. A hint...bad knees, injuries, 3-4 hours/match on court, FO=toughest/most physical GS to win...u see?
 
Cyan said:
LOL. Keep dreaming. Rafa was injured. How come Soderling didn't beat Rafa at Rome this yr? :rolleyes:
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maybe because he would rather beat him at the French open in a best of 5 set match, where it really counts? seriously, that's a pathetic argument. was nadal injured as well when he lost 2,2, and 2 to del potro? was he injured when he lost to Cilic in Beijing? how about when he lost to Davydenko in Shanghai? was he "injured" those times as well?

you tell me to keep dreaming, yet it seems you're the one living in a fantasy world.
 
Nadal is the King of Clay, but I have the feeling his clay domination came to an end. Soldering defeated him in 2009, and any of the big hitters will defeat him in 2010. I love Nadal's passion for the sport, but he is only human. He is not a machine and let's not forget how much the French actually hate him........... I forsee him going after USO and Wimby in 2010.
 
He was injured since Miami and the knees just kept getting worse and worse and by Madrid the knees were too damaged. Simple as that. The only ones living in fantasy world are the *******s.
 
Cyan said:
He was injured since Miami and the knees just kept getting worse and worse and by Madrid the knees were too damaged. Simple as that. The only ones living in fantasy world are the *******s.
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Correction, he has been injured since World War I during his first life. In this war, he suffered a bullet wound to one knee, and scrapnel to another. He died a hero years later, but due to his injuies, never able to fulfill his life dream of one day playing professional. He was re-incaranted, and now those old war-wounds are re-surfacing.
 
drakulie said:
Correction, he has been injured since World War I during his first life. In this war, he suffered a bullet wound to one knee, and scrapnel to another. He died a hero years later, but due to his injuies, never able to fulfill his life dream of one day playing professional. He was re-incaranted, and now those old war-wounds are re-surfacing.
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:lol::lol::lol:
Using the ******* logic,Roger had mono everytime he lost to Nadal last year :mrgreen:
 
mandy01 said:
:lol::lol::lol:
Using the ******* logic,Roger had mono everytime he lost to Nadal last year :mrgreen:
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Federer is the guy who shot Nadal in the knees during the first World War. During that war, he became ill, and had to have his tonsils removed. Now that he has been reincarnated, the mono is surfacing.
 
He's got as good a chance as any of the top 5 to win it. BUT, he better pray he doesn't run into one of the big boys before the final (JMDP, Soderling, etc) Even on clay, those guys are not a good match up for him. It all comes down to the draw.
 
Rafa was suffering from the Soderling symptom. And he’s still in the process of recovering.
 
He is possibly the best clay court player ever (one or two other candidates spring to mind), so to be so simplistic as to say he will go out to "a big hitter" seems short-sighted at best.

He has to have a very bad day at the office to lose at Roland Garros. I don't think it will happen two years running.
 
Rafael nadal will reach the final but I would want him to lose yhe final to either Novak, Federer, andy french player or Soderling who makes it there.

Rafael Nadal will lose the french open for a while but come back to winning it. Borg won french twice then lost to Andriano Pannata twice in the french after that. And after that he won 4 french opens. So maybe soderling will beat nadal again and claim his only grand slam. Then nadal begins to dominata again.
 
statto said:
, so to be so simplistic as to say he will go out to "a big hitter" seems short-sighted at best.

He has to have a very bad day at the office to lose at Roland Garros. I don't think it will happen two years running.
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So...what is Robin Soderling?
It happened this year, and it will definetely happen again.
 
statto said:
He had a very bad day at the office. There will always be the was he/wasn't he injured debate on here, but there is no question that he played poorly in that match.
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I somewhat agree, but he will continue to have just that, he is a human being, not a machine.
But its hard to play good when you are being pushed around from side to side with no mercy for 4 hours! There wasnt much he could do in all fairness.
 
Nadal will never win another GS.

Nadal is a good guy nonetheless. But the Eye of the Tiger is gone.

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statto said:
He had a very bad day at the office. There will always be the was he/wasn't he injured debate on here, but there is no question that he played poorly in that match.
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Soderling played a tremendous match when he beat Nadal at the French, he was also fortunate that the clay was faster this year than in other years, and that Nadal's forehands were dropping short.
 
Fed is excused from future GS losses.

His legacy is immortal and blessed by the Gods.

Rafa was just some guy that won a few big clay tournaments. Hes not GOATable.

I just don't think he will win any more GS.

Hes a good kid nonetheless and I had a ball watching him practice at USO09. Hes an amazing athlete.

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JoelDali said:
Fed is excused from future GS losses.

His legacy is immortal and blessed by the Gods.

Rafa was just some guy that won a few big clay tournaments. Hes not GOATable.

I just don't think he will win any more GS.

Hes a good kid nonetheless and I had a ball watching him practice at USO09. Hes an amazing athlete.

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Just like Borg was just some guy who won a few grass and clay tournaments, nothing huge.
 
He wont dominate it. He might win it again but Federer, Djokovic, and Del Potro are all very capable of winning next years French too. You will not see anything close to 2008 again. Next year will be a barnburner.
 
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