Nadal and the toughest stat in tennis.....

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Nadal Is Best At 'Toughest Stat In Tennis'


An Infosys ATP Insights deep dive of the Top 50 players breaking serve from 40/0 from the start of the 2019 season up to this current week uncovers that they average breaking serve from this black hole just 1.38 per cent (84/6072) of the time. It’s such a dire situation that eight Top 50 (16%) players have failed to accomplish it even once so far in 2019.
Who is the leader of the pack in climbing out this incredibly precarious situation? None other than Rafael Nadal, who is the only player in 2019 to break serve from 40/0 five times. The 10 leading players in the Top 50 who have the best break percentage when returning at 40/0 are highlighted in the table below.

2019 Season: Top 50 Current To This Week - Percentage Breaking From 40/0
RankingPlayerGame Won Returning From 40/0Total Games Trailing 40/0Win Percentage
2Rafael Nadal51024.90%
18David Goffin4994.04%
37Laslo Djere41203.33%
33Kyle Edmund3903.33%
36Cristian Garin3993.03%
4Dominic Thiem31242.42%
6Kei Nishikori31242.42%
7Alexander Zverev31322.27%
35Jan-Lennard Struff31492.01%
38Alex de Minaur21031.94%
Special mention must go to Taylor Fritz, who is in the group of players who have broken three times from 40/0 this season. But he has done it from 172 attempts, which drops his overall win percentage down to 13th best, at 1.74 per cent.
The only two players to break more than three times from a 40/0 hole so far in 2019 are No. 18 David Goffin and No. 37 Laslo Djere, who have both broken four times this season. Below is a breakdown of how many times the current Top 50 have broken from 40/0. The most abundant total is two times, accounting for 16 players.
Top 50 Analysis: Total Players Breaking From 40/0
5 breaks from 40/0 = 1 player
4 breaks from 40/0 = 2 players
3 breaks from 40/0 = 8 players
2 breaks from 40/0 = 16 players
1 break from 40/0 = 15 players
0 breaks from 40/0 = 8 players
The moral of the story is to never give up, no matter how much the odds are stacked against you. There is always a way out of the darkest hole

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TheIntrovert said:
I don’t understand what this stat is supposed to show. In tennis, the scores aren’t randomised. Nadal let the opponent get to 40-0 in the first place for this to take place.
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Key is everyone falls behind by 40-0.. but only few have will and fight to recover from there. I think until i saw this stat I had some shred of doubt in my mind whether Nadal is GOAT or not. But now I am convinced.
 
TheIntrovert said:
I don’t understand what this stat is supposed to show. In tennis, the scores aren’t randomised. Nadal let the opponent get to 40-0 in the first place for this to take place.
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Everyone lets their opponent get to 40-0 brother. 6 players out of those 10 have more 40-0 trailing games than Nadal even when he played more matches this year than the rest of them.
He broke from 40-0 down 5 times while others didn't.
Not saying that the stat is relevant but your statement is wrong.
 
Robert Baratheon said:
Everyone lets their opponent get to 40-0 brother. 6 players out of those 10 have more 40-0 trailing games than Nadal even when he played more matches this year than the rest of them.
He broke from 40-0 down 5 times while others didn't.
Not saying that the stat is relevant but your statement is wrong.
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But then I’d say breaking to love is harder. This may be held to some importance if nadal had the highest break percentage. Do you know if he does?
 
TheIntrovert said:
But then I’d say breaking to love is harder.
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Probably yes.
But to break from 0-40 down you have to win either 5 points in a row or 3 points in a row two times while breaking to love means 4 points in a row.
Just saying that it's another way to look at it.
 
Robert Baratheon said:
Probably yes.
But to break from 0-40 down you have to win either 5 points in a row or 3 points in a row two times while breaking to love means 4 points in a row.
Just saying that it's another way to look at it.
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3 and then 2.
My way of looking at it is that he still lost the first three points. I don’t see why you can say that’s an impressive stat he has over his rivals, if they’re breaking serves losing less points. You can argue this may be impressive if he has the highest break percentage on tour. Is this the case? (Genuinely asking,Not sure).
 
TheIntrovert said:
3 and then 2.
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Dude after the other guy gets to AD you have to win 3 points in a row.
TheIntrovert said:
My way of looking at it is that he still lost the first three points. I don’t see why you can say that’s an impressive stat he has over his rivals, if they’re breaking serves losing less points. You can argue this may be impressive if he has the highest break percentage on tour. Is this the case? (Genuinely asking,Not sure).
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Tour leader in break points converted for the last 52 weeks.

Leaderboard | ATP Tour | Tennis

Statistical measures of the best-performing players in three key categories in men's professional tennis.
www.atptour.com www.atptour.com
 
Robert Baratheon said:
Dude after the other guy gets to AD you have to win 3 points in a row.

Tour leader in break points converted for the last 52 weeks.

Leaderboard | ATP Tour | Tennis

Statistical measures of the best-performing players in three key categories in men's professional tennis.
www.atptour.com www.atptour.com
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Splitting hairs. One definitely needs 3 points in a row, and it can be done with 5 in a row, but it doesn't need two streaks of 3 in a row.

Let's say Nadal is down 0-40 to Fed. He wins three straight points for deuce. Then the points go Nadal, Fed (deuce), Nadal, Nadal (game). So, he did it with 4 in a row, and then 2 in a row. Different ways to do it.

Please don't ask me why I wasted my time splitting hairs to analyze one aspect of a fairly meaningless stat...
 
RaulRamirez said:
Splitting hairs. One definitely needs 3 points in a row, and it can be done with 5 in a row, but it doesn't need two streaks of 3 in a row.

Let's say Nadal is down 0-40 to Fed. He wins three straight points for deuce. Then the points go Nadal, Fed (deuce), Nadal, Nadal (game). So, he did it with 4 in a row, and then 2 in a row. Different ways to do it.

Please don't ask me why I wasted my time splitting hairs to analyze one aspect of a fairly meaningless stat...
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Yeah I missed one case which is winning 4 points in a row and then winning 2.
Now that I think of it there can also be a case where the player wins 4 in a row and then 3 in a row to get it done.
 
ForumMember said:
Key is everyone falls behind by 40-0.. but only few have will and fight to recover from there. I think until i saw this stat I had some shred of doubt in my mind whether Nadal is GOAT or not. But now I am convinced.
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When it comes to moving the goalpost for GOAT, I like the Federer ballerina thing better.
 
Was thinking about this the other day.
Personally i could put nadal as goat. He was the king of lock down mode. Sure the french open helped him in the major h2hs. No matter tho. Djokovic has that lock down too but never as consistently.

Privately
Nadal
Djoker
Fed

But obviously publicly it has to be
Fed
Nadal
Djokovic
 
Lol at how some of yall are effortless triggered over the most trivial stuff. My **** is bigger, my **** is bigger...... really?
 
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