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The last 2 times I can remember Roger beating Nole was back in 2015; Cinci Masters and RR of the YEC! BTW, Nole went on to win the title at the WTF!When was the last time Fed beat Djoker ANYWHERE?
The last 2 times I can remember Roger beating Nole was back in 2015; Cinci Masters and RR of the YEC! BTW, Nole went on to win the title at the WTF!When was the last time Fed beat Djoker ANYWHERE?
How embarrassing for Roger to drop 3 Wimbledon finals when he's supposed to be at least the "Grass GOAT!" That last was a heartbreaker losing 3 TB's w/ 2 MP's! ;-)That's on clay, which is a very different kind of surface. Maybe you should do a stat on hardcourt or grass to get a more meaningful picture.
Haha, good try!How embarrassing for Roger to drop 3 Wimbledon finals when he's supposed to be at least the "Grass GOAT!" That last was a heartbreaker losing 3 TB's w/ 2 MP's! ;-)
Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad!Haha, good try!You should never forget Fed is 6 years older and still took Djokovic to Hell.
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Bro twice, RG06-08 AND RG12-14. He is the emperor at RG, so it's okay for Djokovic, Federer and any other player to lose back-to-back matches at RG against Nadal.F012,13 and 14.
Djokovic didn't even for 2 consecutive years.
'15 WTF I think. He might do it again at WTF.When was the last time Fed beat Djoker ANYWHERE?
Sure, if he honors his Catholic upbringing and invokes EVERY Saint in prayer...the bad news is his chances are still slim, the good news is...there's a lot of Saints to ask help from...LMAO!!!'15 WTF I think. He might do it again at WTF.
Not sure what the **** you're on about lol.Sure, if he honors his Catholic upbringing and invokes EVERY Saint in prayer...the bad news is his chances are still slim, the good news is...there's a lot of Saints to ask help from...LMAO!!!
Hasn't beaten Fed on a HC in 6 years, since AO 2014. 7-0 for Fed off clay since then.Nadal hasn't won single match vs Djokovic on hardcourts since USO 2013. Its 0-8 iirc.
So Fed has been at his peak for 16 years. Impressive.Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad!![]()
Coco Gauff could have stepped in to finish that match off! Call it what it is; another colossal collapse that has tainted Roger's record! I've been one of the many who put Fed on a pedestal and thought him the best of all time; the record showed it! The thing is, the record shows other things too; a lot of it being exposed since he's refused to just retire on top when he could! I was one who thought the best thing for him was to "hit the road" after winning Wimbledon in 2012! He had already gone a couple seasons without winning a major! It was a miracle both Djokovic and Murray went down with injury and en eui in 2016 allowing a huge comeback with Fedal leading the tour once again after 5+ years! Roger picked up 3 more majors with little impediment and with NG'rs nipping at his heels is barely treading water IMO! I can't believe they'll allow him to stay in the top 4 or 5! I'm praying 2020 will be the end once he's had his fling with taking Olympic spots from someone else! If he supplies his fans with another thrill, FINE, I just hope he doesn't start down that road Connors took just being entertainment and hindering the progress of other players! I was just as much a fan of Martina Navratilova, but even I had to say "it's time" in 1994 when she was barely making finals, much less winning anything!So Fed has been at his peak for 16 years. Impressive.
6 years older and still made it so close. That's the point in case you missed it!Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad!![]()
If age issue is "an issue," all the more reason to GTHO! I really don't want to hear any BS excuses for any of the top players; totally disingenuous from all sides anyway being so self-serving! I'm old, but don't mind change! I've been praying for the Next-Gen to take over for years! It's more than a little ridiculous to have the same top players for well over a decade ruling the tour like this! It's just unprecedented no matter the era! Homogenizing the courts doesn't help so we don't have a specialist or 2 to upset the elites half as much as they used to back in my era! No one thought Sampras' record 14 majors would be overtaken so quickly and by 3 players to boot! He's been made irrelevant, but Roger's likely to not hold on until he retires with Nadovic breathing down his neck! Emerson held the record the longest for a few decades, Sampras maybe 8 years, now Fed's all but conceding his record to 2 other players before "leaving the stage!"6 years older and still made it so close. That's the point in case you missed it!![]()
Thing is, he shouldn’t have to be fighting for his record age 38. Yes he’s had countless chances to put the GOAT debate out of sight, but the young players should be stepping up and beating 33-34 year old Nadal and Djokovic.Coco Gauff could have stepped in to finish that match off! Call it what it is; another colossal collapse that has tainted Roger's record! I've been one of the many who put Fed on a pedestal and thought him the best of all time; the record showed it! The thing is, the record shows other things too; a lot of it being exposed since he's refused to just retire on top when he could! I was one who thought the best thing for him was to "hit the road" after winning Wimbledon in 2012! He had already gone a couple seasons without winning a major! It was a miracle both Djokovic and Murray went down with injury and en eui in 2016 allowing a huge comeback with Fedal leading the tour once again after 5+ years! Roger picked up 3 more majors with little impediment and with NG'rs nipping at his heels is barely treading water IMO! I can't believe they'll allow him to stay in the top 4 or 5! I'm praying 2020 will be the end once he's had his fling with taking Olympic spots from someone else! If he supplies his fans with another thrill, FINE, I just hope he doesn't start down that road Connors took just being entertainment and hindering the progress of other players! I was just as much a fan of Martina Navratilova, but even I had to say "it's time" in 1994 when she was barely making finals, much less winning anything!![]()
they won't beat 33-34 years old Nadal or Djokovic for just being young. They'll have to be better than them. Nadal and Djokovic didn't beat Federer as they were young. They were better. Stop attributing things to age all the time.For 18 years old Nadal age advantage was firmly in favor of Federer who was historically prime age of 23-34. A guy who couldn't beat an 18 years old despite himself being in most physically fit age, has no business using that excise when himself in 5 years older past that so called peak age.Thing is, he shouldn’t have to be fighting for his record age 38. Yes he’s had countless chances to put the GOAT debate out of sight, but the young players should be stepping up and beating 33-34 year old Nadal and Djokovic.
He’s still the best player I’ve seen, at least off clay anyway. Whether he stays the greatest remains to be seen.
Isn't it 6-0?Hasn't beaten Fed on a HC in 6 years, since AO 2014. 7-0 for Fed off clay since then.
Only if Nadal did not chicken out from all the hard court scheduleHave they played three times in a row at any other slam?
Federer is 0-7 against top2 in hardcourt slams and 1-9 against #1 at all slams.Let’s just say Rafa is clay GOAT, Roger is HC and grass GOAT while djoker is not a GOAT at anything.
Federer played his first 13 slam matches (out of 30) against other Big3 when he was 22-27 years old while Nadal and Djokovic were 19-22 years old.they won't beat 33-34 years old Nadal or Djokovic for just being young. They'll have to be better than them. Nadal and Djokovic didn't beat Federer as they were young. They were better. Stop attributing things to age all the time.For 18 years old Nadal age advantage was firmly in favor of Federer who was historically prime age of 23-34. A guy who couldn't beat an 18 years old despite himself being in most physically fit age, has no business using that excise when himself in 5 years older past that so called peak age.
If age was a factor then Federer wouldn't be reaching at the stage of having two championship points.
so what, in those ancient times, players used to get old at 26.Federer played his 13th slam match (out of 30) against other Big3 when he was only 27 years old.
So you don't think 6 year age gap is irrelevant? That's quite crazy. I don't know how that can be BS.If age issue is "an issue," all the more reason to GTHO! I really don't want to hear any BS excuses for any of the top players; totally disingenuous from all sides anyway being so self-serving! I'm old, but don't mind change! I've been praying for the Next-Gen to take over for years! It's more than a little ridiculous to have the same top players for well over a decade ruling the tour like this! It's just unprecedented no matter the era! Homogenizing the courts doesn't help so we don't have a specialist or 2 to upset the elites half as much as they used to back in my era! No one thought Sampras' record 14 majors would be overtaken so quickly and by 3 players to boot! He's been made irrelevant, but Roger's likely to not hold on until he retires with Nadovic breathing down his neck! Emerson held the record the longest for a few decades, Sampras maybe 8 years, now Fed's all but conceding his record to 2 other players before "leaving the stage!"![]()
I do not include 2019 as Djokovic prime form. He was not great save for the last set he was better then the breakers in the other sets. I would count 2011/2014/2015/2018 as his prime forms with the 2015 final being his best.2015 was a 4 setter, and a clinical dismantling of Federer by Nole.
2014 was a 5 setter, as was 2019.
Nadal hasn't won single match vs Djokovic on hardcourts since USO 2013. Its 0-8 iirc.