Nadal beat Djokovic in same slam for three consecutive years. Djokovic could never do that to either of Fedal.

Fiero425

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That's on clay, which is a very different kind of surface. Maybe you should do a stat on hardcourt or grass to get a more meaningful picture.
How embarrassing for Roger to drop 3 Wimbledon finals when he's supposed to be at least the "Grass GOAT!" That last was a heartbreaker losing 3 TB's w/ 2 MP's! ;-)
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
How embarrassing for Roger to drop 3 Wimbledon finals when he's supposed to be at least the "Grass GOAT!" That last was a heartbreaker losing 3 TB's w/ 2 MP's! ;-)
Haha, good try! :) You should never forget Fed is 6 years older and still took Djokovic to hell. ;)
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Haha, good try! :) You should never forget Fed is 6 years older and still took Djokovic to Hell. ;)
Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad! :-D
 

Eren

Professional
F012,13 and 14.

Djokovic didn't even for 2 consecutive years.
Bro twice, RG06-08 AND RG12-14. He is the emperor at RG, so it's okay for Djokovic, Federer and any other player to lose back-to-back matches at RG against Nadal.
 

SaintPetros

Hall of Fame
'15 WTF I think. He might do it again at WTF.
Sure, if he honors his Catholic upbringing and invokes EVERY Saint in prayer...the bad news is his chances are still slim, the good news is...there's a lot of Saints to ask help from...LMAO!!!
 

Eren

Professional
Sure, if he honors his Catholic upbringing and invokes EVERY Saint in prayer...the bad news is his chances are still slim, the good news is...there's a lot of Saints to ask help from...LMAO!!!
Not sure what the **** you're on about lol.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad! :-D
So Fed has been at his peak for 16 years. Impressive.
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
So Fed has been at his peak for 16 years. Impressive.
Coco Gauff could have stepped in to finish that match off! Call it what it is; another colossal collapse that has tainted Roger's record! I've been one of the many who put Fed on a pedestal and thought him the best of all time; the record showed it! The thing is, the record shows other things too; a lot of it being exposed since he's refused to just retire on top when he could! I was one who thought the best thing for him was to "hit the road" after winning Wimbledon in 2012! He had already gone a couple seasons without winning a major! It was a miracle both Djokovic and Murray went down with injury and en eui in 2016 allowing a huge comeback with Fedal leading the tour once again after 5+ years! Roger picked up 3 more majors with little impediment and with NG'rs nipping at his heels is barely treading water IMO! I can't believe they'll allow him to stay in the top 4 or 5! I'm praying 2020 will be the end once he's had his fling with taking Olympic spots from someone else! If he supplies his fans with another thrill, FINE, I just hope he doesn't start down that road Connors took just being entertainment and hindering the progress of other players! I was just as much a fan of Martina Navratilova, but even I had to say "it's time" in 1994 when she was barely making finals, much less winning anything! :censored:
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Oh, that made all the difference when holding multiple match points! So because he was 6 years older, he couldn't get a 1st serve in or volley the ball away when he had the chance? Really; that's how you're going to see this? Sad! :-D
6 years older and still made it so close. That's the point in case you missed it! ;)
 

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
6 years older and still made it so close. That's the point in case you missed it! ;)
If age issue is "an issue," all the more reason to GTHO! I really don't want to hear any BS excuses for any of the top players; totally disingenuous from all sides anyway being so self-serving! I'm old, but don't mind change! I've been praying for the Next-Gen to take over for years! It's more than a little ridiculous to have the same top players for well over a decade ruling the tour like this! It's just unprecedented no matter the era! Homogenizing the courts doesn't help so we don't have a specialist or 2 to upset the elites half as much as they used to back in my era! No one thought Sampras' record 14 majors would be overtaken so quickly and by 3 players to boot! He's been made irrelevant, but Roger's likely to not hold on until he retires with Nadovic breathing down his neck! Emerson held the record the longest for a few decades, Sampras maybe 8 years, now Fed's all but conceding his record to 2 other players before "leaving the stage!" :unsure:
 
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KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Coco Gauff could have stepped in to finish that match off! Call it what it is; another colossal collapse that has tainted Roger's record! I've been one of the many who put Fed on a pedestal and thought him the best of all time; the record showed it! The thing is, the record shows other things too; a lot of it being exposed since he's refused to just retire on top when he could! I was one who thought the best thing for him was to "hit the road" after winning Wimbledon in 2012! He had already gone a couple seasons without winning a major! It was a miracle both Djokovic and Murray went down with injury and en eui in 2016 allowing a huge comeback with Fedal leading the tour once again after 5+ years! Roger picked up 3 more majors with little impediment and with NG'rs nipping at his heels is barely treading water IMO! I can't believe they'll allow him to stay in the top 4 or 5! I'm praying 2020 will be the end once he's had his fling with taking Olympic spots from someone else! If he supplies his fans with another thrill, FINE, I just hope he doesn't start down that road Connors took just being entertainment and hindering the progress of other players! I was just as much a fan of Martina Navratilova, but even I had to say "it's time" in 1994 when she was barely making finals, much less winning anything! :censored:
Thing is, he shouldn’t have to be fighting for his record age 38. Yes he’s had countless chances to put the GOAT debate out of sight, but the young players should be stepping up and beating 33-34 year old Nadal and Djokovic.
He’s still the best player I’ve seen, at least off clay anyway. Whether he stays the greatest remains to be seen.
 

ForumMember

Hall of Fame
Thing is, he shouldn’t have to be fighting for his record age 38. Yes he’s had countless chances to put the GOAT debate out of sight, but the young players should be stepping up and beating 33-34 year old Nadal and Djokovic.
He’s still the best player I’ve seen, at least off clay anyway. Whether he stays the greatest remains to be seen.
they won't beat 33-34 years old Nadal or Djokovic for just being young. They'll have to be better than them. Nadal and Djokovic didn't beat Federer as they were young. They were better. Stop attributing things to age all the time.For 18 years old Nadal age advantage was firmly in favor of Federer who was historically prime age of 23-34. A guy who couldn't beat an 18 years old despite himself being in most physically fit age, has no business using that excise when himself in 5 years older past that so called peak age.

If age was a factor then Federer wouldn't be reaching at the stage of having two championship points.
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
they won't beat 33-34 years old Nadal or Djokovic for just being young. They'll have to be better than them. Nadal and Djokovic didn't beat Federer as they were young. They were better. Stop attributing things to age all the time.For 18 years old Nadal age advantage was firmly in favor of Federer who was historically prime age of 23-34. A guy who couldn't beat an 18 years old despite himself being in most physically fit age, has no business using that excise when himself in 5 years older past that so called peak age.

If age was a factor then Federer wouldn't be reaching at the stage of having two championship points.
Federer played his first 13 slam matches (out of 30) against other Big3 when he was 22-27 years old while Nadal and Djokovic were 19-22 years old.

Huge advantage.
 

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
If age issue is "an issue," all the more reason to GTHO! I really don't want to hear any BS excuses for any of the top players; totally disingenuous from all sides anyway being so self-serving! I'm old, but don't mind change! I've been praying for the Next-Gen to take over for years! It's more than a little ridiculous to have the same top players for well over a decade ruling the tour like this! It's just unprecedented no matter the era! Homogenizing the courts doesn't help so we don't have a specialist or 2 to upset the elites half as much as they used to back in my era! No one thought Sampras' record 14 majors would be overtaken so quickly and by 3 players to boot! He's been made irrelevant, but Roger's likely to not hold on until he retires with Nadovic breathing down his neck! Emerson held the record the longest for a few decades, Sampras maybe 8 years, now Fed's all but conceding his record to 2 other players before "leaving the stage!" :unsure:
So you don't think 6 year age gap is irrelevant? That's quite crazy. I don't know how that can be BS. :rolleyes:

Also, Nadal and Djokovic has had it their ways without any up and coming youngsters to challenge them for the last 10 years. These 3 guys are just so good and probably it will take a long time to see anyone whose ability comes remotely close to these guys. If Rogi is any indication, they may dominate for at least the next 2-3 years. In this kind of situation, it seems only a matter of time that they overtake Federer. I don't know who will get the most no. of slams in the end, and I reserve my judgement on greatness until all 3 of them retires.
 

ReeceSachs

Hall of Fame
2015 was a 4 setter, and a clinical dismantling of Federer by Nole.
2014 was a 5 setter, as was 2019.
I do not include 2019 as Djokovic prime form. He was not great save for the last set he was better then the breakers in the other sets. I would count 2011/2014/2015/2018 as his prime forms with the 2015 final being his best.
 
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