Agreed. Every player plays better in surfaces that suits them.
Okay that was easy LOL
Rankings are irrelevant in measuring greatness, if they meant anything on the Becker/Edberg thread Edberg would win unanimously!!
Lol, what on earth is a voodoo rain dance?!
So you think 2015 Federer is a better player than 2015 Djokovic? Interesting.
You are picking and choosing the time frame to suit your argument. In fact you aren't even using the same time frame for both comparisons...Well thought reply.
Djokovic-Nadal h2h since the 2013 US Open final = Djokovic 7-1 including 6 straight set wins for Djokovic
Djokovic-Federer h2h in 2014-2015 = Djokovic 6-5 including 1 straight set win for Djokovic.
I rest my case.
The problem for Djokovic is that on the faster surfaces like Dubai and Cincinatti he got hammered. It wasnt even close. In Cincinatti he couldnt even get a break point.
That's one helluva big "would of" you got going on there.
I don't really think it reflects badly on them. Sometimes when your opponent is servebotting on a fast surface there's not really much you can do, even if you are one of the best returners in the world.
2008 wimbledon
Once again the USO surface is exactly the same as the Cincinatti one.
I'm saying that it's because of Federer's hyper aggressive game that he should still be favoured over anyone on fast surfaces, even at the age of 34.
You know why the USO surface is slower than the Cincinatti one
Not at 34!! The guy is nowhere near the player he was, just look at clips on YouTube from a decade ago
Because Federer lost his last three matches there against Djokovic?
Exactly.
That doesn't mean he isn't still a great player. You never lose your talent Gary.
8 years ago a young novak beat fed so why can't a 28 year old novak beat him?
I didnt say he isnt a great player. But he is nowhere near what he was.
On a fast court?
Yes montreal
montreal isnt fast, it is Medium, or medium fast. Hence why Nadal does so well there!!! Toronto is quicker, Federer has a better record there, Nadal has never won there.
Well he's evidently still great enough to beat the best two players in the world!
Not consistently though. The Murrya victory at W was vintage Federer. That was him 10 years ago. Murray looked clueless. Federer would have done same to Djokovic in final.
Thank God he's still not able to play like that everytime then!
Yeah hes just useless on fast surfaces. His 3-4 Dubai titles are a fluke, so are his 3 shanghai titles.
Dont overreact. Federer is simply better on fast courts. As for Shanghai, that is medium but very low bouncing.
Well i can tell you now i bet Roddick and Hewitt wished Federer didnt play like that all the time in their day because he did!
I was talking exactly about the rain delays and how no one blames them for feds loss unlike you do for his losses this year
What difference does the rain delay make? At Wimbledon Djokovic had just broken in the third set if anything it should have helped fed. And at the us open the match hadn't even started yet
Nadal was Fed's rival more so than Roddick or Hewitt or Agassi.
Can't do that I'm afraid. It's too comfortable here on my high horse. It makes me feel like a king. What does being a professional player have to do with anything? Are you a professional player? If you are, it's no wonder we haven't heard of you - why you haven't broken into the big ranks - because you're here posting on ttw as opposed to improving your game. If you aren't (a professional), then my word/analysis is just as good as yours.
You obviously weren't watching JMdP v Federer at the Olympics, having had a few beers and needing a toilet break.I bet that's news to JMdP!
Clear to you maybe, but not to some of us, because while Rafa is clearly Roger's toughest opponent, with a H2H of 23-10, and Djokovic is Rafa's toughest opponent, with a H2H as close as 23-22, Djokovic's H2Hs with both Roger and Rafa, 21-21 and 23-22 respectively, are so close that it's not quite as clear to pick out who Djokovic's toughest opponent is.
