Nadal can still easily surpass/match Federer's Slam count

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
4 more isn't a huge ask, especially when you auto-win at least 1 Slam (French) per year. So really, all Nadal needs to do is play another 4 years on tour (and he's only 31, let's not forget), and he'll have 4 more French Open's. Then all he needs to do is bag an additional Slam in one of those years, and he's surpassed 20 Slams.
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
slam count don't matter



Nadal could win 20 more FO it still wouldn't matter


everybody knows he is Clay goat


what's his slam tally outside the FO.

6 majors



Fed's slam tally outside Wimbledon?


12




then factor in feds weeks at number one, consecutive weeks at number one, WTF won, having at least 5 titles at 6 or more different tournaments across grass and hard



It's a wrap


Fed underperformed on clay because Rafa is clay goat


Meanwhile Fed dominated the tour outside of Clay and Rafa usually wasn't a factor because he got beat before he could face Fed


It's a wrap
 

thomasferrett

Hall of Fame
Yes, easily. He wins the French Open like clockwork. In 4 years time it is a given he'll be at 20 Slams, so whether he sneaks in a USO or AO during one of those years will determine whether he surpasses 20 or merely matches it. And, of course, if he plays for another 5 years he'll have won 5 more French Open's, so it's inevitable that he passes 20 either way.
 

Nickzor

Semi-Pro
Nadals is becoming more injury prone now and is nearing 32 years old, I doubt he ever wins another Wimbledon, Aus Open or a US Open unless he gets a decent draw, FO? I can see him possibly winning 2 more, unlike Federer, Nadal's game relies heavily on retrieving balls and defensive play, Nadal's movement is declining noticeably every year, Say Federer wins another this year, then Nadal would have to win 6 to surpass him, I like Nadal but i would give him basically no chance to bag 22 slams with the rate that he is declining physically.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Let us see, in the next 3 years - 3 more FO and 2 other majors out of 9 and he is on 21. Unless Fed adds more the slam count may be tight.
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
Yes, easily. He wins the French Open like clockwork. In 4 years time it is a given he'll be at 20 Slams, so whether he sneaks in a USO or AO during one of those years will determine whether he surpasses 20 or merely matches it. And, of course, if he plays for another 5 years he'll have won 5 more French Open's, so it's inevitable that he passes 20 either way.
Assuming there’s no decline for Rafa as he gets older and no one challenges him...
 
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Deleted member 307496

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On grass he's a decent threat in the past. Even if Fed had hobbled past Raonic I don't think he was beating Murray in 2016, for example.
Wimbledon 2015 and their other slam meetings outside 2013 AO where he had a bum back say otherwise.
 

Razaron

Rookie
20>16

Who’s more likely to win more grand slam titles the next two years?

Fed could easily win Wimbledon again this year.
 
Wimbledon 2015 and their other slam meetings outside 2013 AO where he had a bum back say otherwise.
That was mainly my original point though, at Fed's age those bum back days and achey days are more commonplace. It would only be assuming prior form Murray though which is never likely to happen.
 
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That was mainly my original point though, at Fed's age those bum back days and achey days are more commonplace. It would only be assuming prior form Murray though which is never likely to happen.
That's why he lost to Raonic. But nah Murray doesn't have the gamestyle or enough firepower to consistently challenge Fed. Djokovic does because at his peak he was a tremendous player with a lot of easy power off both wings.
 
That's why he lost to Raonic. But nah Murray doesn't have the gamestyle or enough firepower to consistently challenge Fed. Djokovic does because at his peak he was a tremendous player with a lot of easy power off both wings.
Yeah that's why I would have picked Murray to win, not healthy. If he's healthy at Wimbledon he can beat anyone unless Djokovic somehow finds his Ultron mode which is looking less and less likely these days.
 
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There aren't ATP players who have 20 titles in total of any kind and Fed has 20 at slam level alone.
I never thought he would have won 20 majors. So glad I got to enjoy his latest slam wins after converting to Fed fandom after he started mellowing out.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Yeah that's why I would have picked Murray to win, not healthy. If he's healthy at Wimbledon he can beat anyone unless Djokovic somehow finds his Ultron mode which is looking less and less likely these days.
But you could pick anybody to win probably.
 

SQA333

Hall of Fame
I mean, given the draws he's been getting at slams recently, he could be on 18 at the end of this year if healthy.
 

ibbi

Hall of Fame
Please, stop. He is a soon to be 32 year old defensive baseliner. He has already far surpassed all expectations in the sports history with the longevity he has achieved. Expecting him to win 4 more majors is absurd in the extreme. He does not play tennis like Federer does, he will not last like Federer does.
 

killerboi2

Hall of Fame
Fed fans using the good old fashioned ignore clay excuse. If Nadal years of TRASH in his prime to inflate then he would easily have 20+ as well, along with his superior slam beatings against Fed.
 

Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
Let us see, in the next 3 years - 3 more FO and 2 other majors out of 9 and he is on 21. Unless Fed adds more the slam count may be tight.
Let’s not also forget added pressure on certain slams; as Nadal begins to creep closer, so his career will inevitably be coming closer to it’s end. And then each FO not won becomes a millstone and ramps up the pressure.

I actually think he’ll feel added pressure at this FO. After last years stroll, everyone will expect him to walk it. We’ll see...
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Let’s not also forget added pressure on certain slams; as Nadal begins to creep closer, so his career will inevitably be coming closer to it’s end. And then each FO not won becomes a millstone and ramps up the pressure.

I actually think he’ll feel added pressure at this FO. After last years stroll, everyone will expect him to walk it. We’ll see...
There was tons of pressure in 2017 and he passed with flying colors.

He was 100% for the first time in years, already made a slam final and nearly beat Fed on a super fast court. He won 3/4 RG warm-up events. His only problem the first 5 months was Fed on hardcourts, and Roger wasn't even in the tournament. Everyone expected him to win FO 2017.
 
We can all talk in circles about this... Federer and Nadal are both great, Fed won many of his majors in a weak era without nadal, novak, or murray... Fed has never been great on clay I remember Guga owning him at the French.. But lets not forget that Nadal has beaten Federer on grass on the biggest stage (2008). But Federer has the 20 slams! Who wins.. Yo no sé..
 

King No1e

Legend
4 more isn't a huge ask, especially when you auto-win at least 1 Slam (French) per year. So really, all Nadal needs to do is play another 4 years on tour (and he's only 31, let's not forget), and he'll have 4 more French Open's. Then all he needs to do is bag an additional Slam in one of those years, and he's surpassed 20 Slams.
It's easier for Nadal to bag 3 in a year than win 4 more RG. He isn't Federer.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
I hope Thiem improves on clay, and Djokovic is back to his best, Nadal is a beast on Clay, and whatever people may say about his age, he is untouchable on Clay, I can easily see him win many more slams, however Roger will also win more slams, but even if Nadal would end up with 1 more slam, how can he be GOAT if he would have like 15 or 16 slams on 1 surface, and only 6 on the other 3? Makes no sense.
 
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