Nadal compares Federer and Djokovic in detail

Of course he would say that.
Nadal vs Federer was basically Nadal hitting heavy topspin forehand to Federer backhand over an over and over and over and over and over again, until Federer improved his backhand down the line in 2017.

Against Djokovic Nadal was clueless and had no clue how to beat him, and got utterly destroyed for many years, of course he was hitting all the shots and not being tactical, he had no freaking idea what tactic to even use since nothing was working.
 
FiReFTW said:
Of course he would say that.
Nadal vs Federer was basically Nadal hitting heavy topspin forehand to Federer backhand over an over and over and over and over and over again, until Federer improved his backhand down the line in 2017.

Against Djokovic Nadal was clueless and had no clue how to beat him, and got utterly destroyed for many years, of course he was hitting all the shots and not being tactical, he had no freaking idea what tactic to even use since nothing was working.
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For that reason, Fedr is GOAT*
 
FiReFTW said:
Of course he would say that.
Nadal vs Federer was basically Nadal hitting heavy topspin forehand to Federer backhand over an over and over and over and over and over again, until Federer improved his backhand down the line in 2017.

Against Djokovic Nadal was clueless and had no clue how to beat him, and got utterly destroyed for many years, of course he was hitting all the shots and not being tactical, he had no freaking idea what tactic to even use since nothing was working.
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Fed didn't beat Rafa (or anyone) with backhands down the line in 17. They were mostly the same cross-court shots he always hit, just with a lot more depth & pace.
 
Rafa means he was more repetitive?
Hit moonball to backhand
Run a lot

? Profit

This worked on clay and slower surfaces too with the 2008 Wimbledon win thrown in too. If you put them on a quicker surface which rewards shotmaking and variety then Fed is clear favourite vs anyone.
 
As if any professional athlete is going to reveal true tactics or strategy against his rivals when all three are still active? It's ridiculous to assume any of the big three will ever reveal anything about playing the others. Maybe they will be forthcoming in 20-25 years, but not when they still are facing each other.
 
FiReFTW said:
Of course he would say that.
Nadal vs Federer was basically Nadal hitting heavy topspin forehand to Federer backhand over an over and over and over and over and over again, until Federer improved his backhand down the line in 2017.

Against Djokovic Nadal was clueless and had no clue how to beat him, and got utterly destroyed for many years, of course he was hitting all the shots and not being tactical, he had no freaking idea what tactic to even use since nothing was working.
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Hahaha what a Nadal hater. Nadal leads Djokovic 9-5 in Grand Slams (including 2-1 at the US Open). So Nadal is the one who destroyed Djokovic in Grand Slams, Djokovic had no idea how to beat him in Grand Slams. This is specially noticieable in 2013, where Nadal destroyed Djokovic. Djokovic would have had one of his best seasons in 2013 with 3 Grand Slams and the WTF. But Nadal stopped him twice at Roland Garros and the US Open. That was peak Nadal on hard courts (only year that he won Montreal, Cincinnati and the USO), and peak Djokovic could do nothing to stop him.
 
Sport said:
Hahaha what a Nadal hater. Nadal leads Djokovic 9-5 in Grand Slams (including 2-1 at the US Open). So Nadal is the one who destroyed Djokovic in Grand Slams, Djokovic had no idea how to beat him in Grand Slams. This is specially noticieable in 2013, where Nadal destroyed Djokovic. Djokovic would have had one of his best seasons in 2013 with 3 Grand Slams and the WTF. But Nadal stopped him twice at Roland Garros and the US Open. That was peak Nadal on hard courts (only year that he won Montreal, Cincinnati and the USO), and peak Djokovic could do nothing to stop him.
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I see you are quite deluded.

If you compare head to head you need to be objective.

Best surfaces for Djokovic : Wimbledon and Australian Open.

Best surfaces for Nadal : French Open and US Open.


How many grand slam matches on Djokovic's favorite surfaces? 4.
How many grand slam matches on Nadal's favorite surfaces? 10.

Wow look at that, now doesn't that tell us alot.

If they meet 10 times in AO and W, Djokovic would be leading the h2h without a doubt.

Also 4 of those wins came when Djokovic was not healthy and ill because of gluten intolerance and having stamina problems, fact!

So its basically 5-5 despite having played the majority on Nadal's favorite surfaces.
 
Jaitock1991 said:
Not as much "in detail" as OP promised, but interesting nonetheless. Would love to hear him talk more about it!
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Hey, I didn't promise anything. It was express.co.uk ... I said clearly the title of the article was 'bombastic' and it was published by a tabloid magazine so I was a bit sarcastic about it :D.

However, It is interesting that Rafa worded it the way he did. He said 'repetitive and tactical' when it comes to Fed versa 'we both play all shots' when it comes to Djokovic. IMHO 'repetitive and tactical' don't really belong in the same sentence but I do understand where Nadal is coming from or what he means If you wish.

Nadal hitting to Fed's BH over and over again to no end, switches here and there a little bit and then repeat again ... So, my question to all of you was more like 'Are all of their matches' really the same in a nut shell or not?
I'd say they are very similar ... but, but ... Does Nadal apply the same tactics when he plays Federer? I guess he does because it's been working for a wile/long time for him ... I don't blame him. I'm trying to be neutral here btw. Now, if Fed is really focused and doesn't make too many UE or silly errors Fed can beat Rafa, no question. Of course, I haven't discovered anything revolutionary here ... it's been said so many times by a lot of tennis fans. I just can't remember that Nadal himself said it so clearly before.

As for matches when Nadal is playing against Djokovic, the question again is 'Are we watching the same match-up again and again' and 'do they really play all shots' the way Nadal described it? I was under impression that Nadal somehow thinks that you almost never know how him and Djokovic would play on a certain day or that their match up has more variables ... On one hand one would think that they don't, on the other hand one could claim that Djokovic is good at attacking Nadal's short balls and especially his second serve. Both Rafa and Novak are supreme runners or athletes if you wish. So, who dictates the outcome of their matches more, Nadal or Djokovic? It's kinda a tricky question.

So, I personally, think they don't always play 100% the same type of a match all over again but there is a certain pattern in their respective match-ups. I'm talking about all 3 players. So I just wanted you all to give me your 5 cents regarding this.

My intention, honestly, wasn't to start another 'GOAT' thread.
 
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Luka888 said:
Hey, I didn't promise anything. It was express.co.uk ... I said clearly the title of the article was 'bombastic' and it was published by a tabloid magazine so I was a bit sarcastic about it :D.

However, It is interesting that Rafa worded it the way he did. He said 'repetitive and tactical' when it comes to Fed versa 'we both play all shots' when it comes to Djokovic. IMHO 'repetitive and tactical' don't really belong in the same sentence but I do understand where Nadal is coming from or what he means If you wish.

Nadal hitting to Fed's BH over and over again to no end, switches here and there a little bit and then repeat again ... So, my question to all of you was more like 'Are all of their matches' really the same in a nut shell or not?
I'd say they are very similar ... but, but ... Does Nadal apply the same tactics when he plays Federer? I guess he does because it's been working for a wile/long time for him ... I don't blame him. I'm trying to be neutral here btw. Now, if Fed is really focused and doesn't make too many UE or silly errors Fed can beat Rafa, no question. Of course, I haven't discovered anything revolutionary here ... it's been said so many times by a lot of tennis fans. I just can't remember that Nadal himself said it so clearly before.

As for matches when Nadal is playing against Djokovic, the question again is 'Are we watching the same match-up again and again' and 'do they really play all shots' the way Nadal described it? I was under impression that Nadal somehow thinks that you almost never know how him and Djokovic wold play on a certain day or that their match up has more variables ... On one hand one would think that they don't, on the other hand one could claim that Djokovic is good at attacking Nadal's short balls and especially his second serve. Both Rafa and Novak are supreme runners or athletes if you wish. So, who dictates the outcome of their matches more, Nadal or Djokovic? It's kinda a tricky question.

So, I personally, think they don't always play 100% the same type of a match all over again but there is a certain pattern in their respective match-ups. I'm taling about all 3 players. So I just wanted you all to give me your 5 cents regarding this.

My intention, honestly, wasn't to start another 'GOAT' thread.
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Sorry, guess I misunderstood what you meant :-)

As for your analysis of it all I agree. Nadal's natural(most prefered) style of play happens to be very effective against Roger's natural(most prefered) style of play. This basically forces Roger to either alter his game into a style that is not his A game(pretty much impossible vs a fellow GOAT candidate) or to play his A game at an extremely high level to beat Rafa(especially on higher bouncing, slower surfaces). Either way Roger is screwed more often than not on most surfaces. Nadal can basically play his natural game vs Fed without having to adjust too much and it will be enough on a normal day. I think that is what he means when he says "repeat".

As for the Djokodal matchup Novak has exactly the tools that Rafa does not like to play against, and this forces him to adjust instead. His natural game alone suddenly isn't necessarilly enough to beat Djoker. And I think this is what he means when he says that this matchup has more variety in it. For him it clearly does, as it forces him to adjust and be creative in order to create the pattern he wants.
 
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