veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I have seen it. It's abominable in every respect.
Nadal criticises Madrid Masters
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maximo
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j'en suis persuade que ca change rien...
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gj011
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I don`t think this is true. Tennis is losing popularity in US, mainly because of lack of top US player, but not in the rest of the world. So I don`t think any big change is needed, especially I don`t think blue clay would make any difference in that respect.
Change not always means something will be better, so you should also watch what you wish for, because due to changes tennis might lose lots of current fans.
For example, what they did to doubles, with stupid new scoring rules is ridiculous and completely ruined the game.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Can someone other than a Nadal hater harass me to no end over the issue? You have your opinion, I have mine. Stop trying to terrorize me into changing it because I won't and get off my back. You like the idea of multicolored clay courts, I don't. We have each expressed our reasons why, let's leave it at that and see what happens.
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TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
Great post! That's the way I read it too.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
So true, I dislike the new rules in doubles as well and I don't see that it has made the doubles any more popular with the masses.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
You're back! I'm so happy, I've missed you a lot
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Est-ce que tu es Europeen? Tu as vu le court bleu? J'aime la coherence dans la terre battue en Europe. Si tu commences a creer des divisions, tu mets en danger l'avenir de la surface en general. Je n'ai pas envie qu'elle se retrouve reduite a 2 tournois par an comme l'herbe. Tu connais l'expression: "diviser pour mieux regner"?
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That counts for every single soccer player, they are all taught to cheat.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
You mean US viewers would want to watch more clay court tennis on TV if the clay was blue? (or just any color but red?) Good luck with that idea.
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
The fact that the players are criticizing it is valid enough. So far, Nadal, Federer, and Serena have come out as being opposed to it, three of the biggest stars in the sport, who are these unnamed stars who are ok with it? Do they get far enough for it to matter.
There is no logical reason for changing the clay and doing it so abruptly before the preparation of the second slam, especially without the players knowing about it. Roger said he found out when he drove past it. That is totally wrong no matter how you try to slice it.
There is no logical reason for changing the clay and doing it so abruptly before the preparation of the second slam, especially without the players knowing about it. Roger said he found out when he drove past it. That is totally wrong no matter how you try to slice it.
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Please can you post a picture of the blue clay I haven't seen it yet?
TheTruth
G.O.A.T.
You're back! I'm so happy, I've missed you a lot
Thanks, I missed you all too, but I'm sure you've been holding the fort down. Great postings on this thread.
maximo
Banned
Oui, je viens d'Europe. Et je n'ai jamais vue la terre battue en bleu.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I'm trying to remember what link it was. I will post it as soon as I find it.
Here it is (it's only a practise court so far): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlJnAQycTGQ
And here is an article about Federer and Serena not liking it either http://www.monstersandcritics.com/n...erer_joins_the_fray_against_Madrid_blue_clay_
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Est-ce que tu es Espagnol?
FlamEnemY
Hall of Fame
Mais l'expression "diviser pour mieux regner" ne veut pas dire justement que des couleurs de terre battue différentes seraient bénéfiques?
maximo
Banned
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Thanks mate and thanks veroniquem for looking.
maximo
Banned
Looks more like a HC from that view.
All-rounder
Legend
Looks like indoor madrid HC than clay
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Ah super! Je suis francaise mais j'habite aux USA depuis 11 ans. L'Europe me manque beaucoup, pas tant la France en particulier mais l'Europe en general. Ceci dit, j'aime la ville de NY.Je suis Francais, mais j'habite en Angleterre depuis 10 ans.
GameSampras
Banned
Whats he whining about? he won the damn event. Shut up and play. The more ****** complains about tournaments he get cakewalks through the more I cant stand him. Hes turning into a whiny primadonna. Its like he complains about everything today even if he wins
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
The blue clay court is only a practise court. See my link on the page before.
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GameSampras
Banned
Whos the trashy chick Nadal is with in the pool? LOL.. She stole Djoker's man
maximo
Banned
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
What chick?
GameSampras
Banned
THat chick in that picture he is with on page 1 someone posted
GameSampras
Banned
maximo
Banned
GameSampras never fails to crack me up...
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Nothing trashy about Nadal's girlfriend shes stunning.
Man i see you´re french. No wonder you are always talking trash about nadal. Roland Garros is the only place where the crowd is disrespecful towards Nadal. The guy won it 4 times and they still whistle when he tries to find a ball mark. the worst crowd ever. It was terrible whenm he played Grosjean and another time i remember he played mathieu. Nadal was 18 years old or so and the crowd tried hard to scare him. i guess they are sick of Spanish players winning there again and again. Im sorry for that crowd, since you´ll probably see him winning the FO more yearsJe suis Francais, mais j'habite en Angleterre depuis 10 ans.
Pathetic!!!!!!!!!!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Non, du point de vue de l'ATP qui represente les interets de la surface dure, il faut diviser la terre battue pour mieux conquerir ses proponents. L'expression signifie diviser l'adversaire pour mieux le dominer ensuite.
GameSampras
Banned
Does she work? Or just live off Nadal's dough
deltox
Hall of Fame
harrass you, you respond to my remarks and i reply, get over it, your not going to get the last word, grow up. im not A NADAL HATER, I DONT DISLIKE THE GUY AT ALL. in fact read my first post where i declare this to be the FIRST time i disliked something he said in a PC. Secondly, ive asked you to PROVE your points which you have avoided like the swine flu. your a *******, it a well known fact. the fact your hero dislikes the surface is why you dislike it. ive simply given rebuttle of your points with great success while you have merely added more opinions.
also, tennis as a whole based on ratings and advertising commercial costs have went down WORLDWIDE!
at least GJ011 has simply said he doesnt believe it to be true, and he personally dislikes it, being perfectly honest about his opinions and not trying to hide behind half facts and heresay
its simple here, those that wish to be Rafas lovers on here simply cannot look past his words. if you want to shut me up, provide simple facts to the argument you are so passionately providing, otherwise, you should be the one to get off my back and shut up. i provided relevant arguments, while you fall back on opinion each time. grow up Veronique, chick or not your acting like a child about this whole thing.
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Cesc Fabregas
Legend
I Think shes a student not sure though.
deltox
Hall of Fame
i agree what they did to doubles sucks, but as for the sport loosing interest in the us alone, please google some commercial costs and ratings and viewer numbers. its declined at a steady rate since the mid 90s. even during federers prime it was going down. why do you think its so hard to find televised events outside your countries respectively, thus being forced into live streams with choppy reception and copyright infringments.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I disagree. Rafa has a lot of fans at RG. During the final a lot of fans who cannot get seats for the court Chatrier, gather outside (but inside the stadium) to celebrate another Rafa win, it's much more difficult to get tickets there than in NY for instance, the arena is much smaller and they don't put all the seats up for general sale. A lot of the seats are reserved for club players and those can be very jingoistic, support the French unconditionally and make a point of showing their difference from regular casual fans by snobbing the most popular player of the moment (they used to dislike Agassi as well). They usually support classical traditional players like Fed. They're mostly present during the second week and they do not represent the crowd at large.Man i see you´re french. No wonder you are always talking trash about nadal. Roland Garros is the only place where the crowd is disrespecful towards Nadal. The guy won it 4 times and they still whistle when he tries to find a ball mark. the worst crowd ever. It was terrible whenm he played Grosjean and another time i remember he played mathieu. Nadal was 18 years old or so and the crowd tried hard to scare him. i guess they are sick of Spanish players winning there again and again. Im sorry for that crowd, since you´ll probably see him winning the FO more years
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
She's a business student in college.
cucio
Legend
I mostly watch tourneys on the internet. RG and Rome are okay, but watching Monte Carlo at stream quality is tough on the eyes, worst tournament to follow the ball by light-years, I think it is a combination of the colour of the court and the position/angle of the camera.
I don't see anything wrong with giving it a try. Even if the reason is to mimic a sponsor corporate colour. Hellooooo! The sponsors pay the big bucks to keep the sport going, I see the value in accommodating them to make the sponsoring more attractive, as long as it doesn't degrade the game and the broadcast quality.
So those are to me two valid and logic reasons, and a brand new tournament is the ideal place to test new things out. Will I miss the traditional colour of the clay? Yes. Do I think the idea has merit and might turn out good for the sport? Yes.
I don't see anything wrong with giving it a try. Even if the reason is to mimic a sponsor corporate colour. Hellooooo! The sponsors pay the big bucks to keep the sport going, I see the value in accommodating them to make the sponsoring more attractive, as long as it doesn't degrade the game and the broadcast quality.
So those are to me two valid and logic reasons, and a brand new tournament is the ideal place to test new things out. Will I miss the traditional colour of the clay? Yes. Do I think the idea has merit and might turn out good for the sport? Yes.
GameSampras
Banned
Sure she is
. Whats her major? Extortion of pro tennis players? I wonder who is paying her tuition? LOL.
Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Sure she is
Lol shes not as bad as Mirka who gets to travel round the world watching Roger and shes does nothing apart from stay in all the fancy hotels he pays for and orders room service that he pays for.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Prove what? I've already given all my arguments. If they don't convince you, too bad. Maybe you could read Federer and Serena's statements as well (I gave a link to that) and you'd be more prepared to give them some credit.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Her major is business. (Can you read?)Sure she is
GameSampras
Banned
You know what I mean? Why would any guys put with that ? GET A JOB women.. ya know?
GameSampras
Banned
Correct. Extortion. Thats apart of business. See Enron
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Qu'est-ce que tu fais comme travail en Angleterre? Tu as de la chance parce que l'Angleterre est pres de la France, tu peux y aller souvent, pas comme moiil n'y a pas beaucoup de travail en France, alors j'ai decide de partir.
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