Nadal - Djokovic H2H off clay

King_ Zeglan12

Professional
Nadal and Djokovic maybe a year apart yearwise but from a physical standpoint Nadal is probably nearer to Federer... Nadal won 2 slams and bunch of masters before Djokovic won his first title
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic has been the best player in Australia from 2011 till now
Nadal has been the best player in France from 2005 till now
Djokovic has been the best player in UK from 2014 till now
Djokovic has been the best player in New York from 2015 till now.

It is simple, just pick a dates that works for DJO to skew things.


It is that simple, I suppose.
 
Not really. Nadal has been more successful than Nole in 2 out of the 4 Grand Slams (on 2 different surfaces).
That still doesn’t change the fact that Novak has way better stats than Nadal on hard court despite 1 less us open. His peak level is greater than Rafa on hard court as well.
 
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That's a good one from a Djokovic fan, accepting Nadal has the better peak on HC lol :-D
At the us open only! Damn auto correct slip up. At us open I can’t deny Rafa was brilliant in those 2010 and 2013 finals and had a higher level. However, everywhere Novak rules over Rafa on HC. Still their careers aren’t over for us open so Novak still has a chance to equal him ;)
 
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Leading Mickey Mouse tournaments stats is all that is left for Djokovic.
It’s virtually the whole ATP calendar so it’s very significant! I admit Nadal having more us opens than Djokovic is very impressive but overall Rafa isn’t close to Novak on HC. Novak still has a chance to equal Rafa at us open whereas same can’t be said for Rafa down under.
 

Julius Caesar

Professional
It’s virtually the whole ATP calendar so it’s very significant! I admit Nadal having more us opens than Djokovic is very impressive but overall Rafa isn’t close to Novak on HC. Novak still has a chance to equal Rafa at us open whereas same can’t be said for Rafa down under.
Nadal still has a chance to widen the gap with nole at Uso
 

Lauren_Girl'

Hall of Fame
Leading Mickey Mouse tournaments stats is all that is left for Djokovic.

There are TWO Grand Slams on hard courts in case you haven't noticed. And if we include Olympic Games and World Tour Finals, Djokovic has 17 Majors on hard courts. (9+3+5+0)
Nadal has 7 Majors on hard courts (2+4+0+1)
Enough said. But if you're not convinced 17>7 and not convinced Djokovic is a better hard court player, you can always take a look at the Masters1000. Djokovic has more Indian-Wells, more Miami, more Cincinnati, more Shanghaï and more Bercy. The only exception is the Canada Open (5>4).
And if you're still not convinced, take a look at the H2H on hard courts.
And if you still have doubt, start counting the number of sets Nadal won against him on hard court since USO 2013.

And then ask yourself why Djokovic keeps winning sets and beating Nadal on clay since 2013. He beat Nadal in every Masters1000 on clay. Why can't Nadal even win a set on hard courts in 10 years? Why?
 
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Because he played him so many times when he was past his prime and in the worst form of his career when Joker was at the apex peak of his powers. Since 2016 they play each other 1-2x a year max. Had they played in 2017 for instance RAFA would have bagged multiple wins off clay, but Joker wasn’t good enough to reach him. Ol’ Rog showed up to take his beatings in 2013. RAFA showed up in 2015-2016. The only member of the Big 3 who couldn’t reach the others when he was in bad form was Joker.
There is a bit of copium going on I think reading some replies to you.
Majors are best of 5 sets and the pinnacle of the game so let's just concentrate on the h2h at that level.
Off clay
Nadal 3-5 Djokovic
On clay
Nadal 8-2 Djokovic
Historians when they look back will see two players pretty evenly matched off clay but on clay a very lop sided rivalry .
 
He might widen it or Novak might level it. Alternatively it stays the way it is. We will see what happens. All we know is the gap is just 1 there but everywhere else on hard court apart from Canada, Novak leads by a massive margin.
Tourneys like Qatar and Beijing and miami don't tend to bring out the best of Nadal though. Ultimately it is performance at slams that truly matter h2h wise as they are best of 5 sets and the longer a match the more chance the better player finds a way to win
Off clay at the Majors the h2h is 5-3 to Nole. On clay it's 8-2 to Nadal. That's a pretty equal spread of matches on and off clay.
 

Clay lover

Legend
How about a hotter take - if they did not meet, they did not and it's impossible to speculate what would've happened in a match that did not happen, and by extension no one is more "guilty" of avoiding his rival than the other.
 
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