Nadal fans-why will you be so disappointed if he doesn't win RG?

NatF

Bionic Poster
Add Borg to that list straight away!

Connors has Two W titles, but also won on grass in USO

And we know what Laver did on the grass...

Newcombe, Pancho Gonzalez, Rosewall etc...

Nadal > Connors on grass IMO
 

cronus

Professional
With the GCS under his belt, Nadal’s current narrow slam shortfall is more than adequately covered by the Masters and H2H. He has already proven the best of this century – anything he wins from here on out is icing on the torte.

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Deleted member 77403

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Newcombe, Pancho Gonzalez, Rosewall etc...

Nadal > Connors on grass IMO

Maybe.

But Connors was denied Wimbledon by two all time great grass court players. Borg and McEnroe. Nadal only denied Wimbledon by one grass court great. Connors overall does have more grass slams, he's more accomplished. IMO.

I can make a statement that if it wasn't for Sampras' crazy domination in the 90s, Ivanisevic would sitting high up in that list, considering he came back and won it nearly a decade later after his first final.
 
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NatF

Bionic Poster
Maybe.

But Connors was denied Wimbledon by two all time great grass court players. Borg and McEnroe. Nadal only denied Wimbledon by one grass court great. Connors overall does have more grass slams, he's more accomplished. IMO.

I can make a statement that if it wasn't for Sampras' crazy domination in the 90s, Ivanisevic would sitting high up in that list, considering he came back and won it nearly a decade later after his first final.

Ivanisevic was potentally very good on grass, interesting to ponder how many titles he would have without Sampras.

Connors had the luxury of playing multiple grass slams (the AO was grass in the 70's). I will say that Nadal is at least a better Wimbledon player IMO. Connors does have 4 slams on grass although that AO was a weak win.

I think it's debatable, but Connors is certainly more accomplished.
 
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Ivanisevic was potentally very good on grass, interesting to ponder how many titles he would have without Sampras.

Connors had the luxury of playing multiple grass slams (the AO was grass in the 70's). I will say that Nadal is at least a better Wimbledon player IMO. Connors does have 4 slams on grass although that AO was a weak win.

I think it's debatable, but Connors is certainly more accomplished.

I would certainly give him 94. He was matching Sampras serve for serve, but just faltered in those two tie breaks. Even is possible, his 5 epic classic with Sampras in the semi was very good...I watched this match live as a kid. And then you have 98, he downs the only player to win W during Sampras' reign, but couldn't beat two W champions back to back.
 

Fedal4Ever

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As a honest Rafa fan I would be devastated. If Djokovic gets another confidence boost we can kiss the remaining slams good bye. Federer will remain the goat with Nadal slightly behind.

Nothing hurts more when your favorite is only couple slams behind. :-?

I'm hoping Nadal will hold on to that positive H2h record, as of now that is currently our only ammunition vs Federer.

Djokovic is ruining everything. :(
 

aldeayeah

G.O.A.T.
Nadal is only one year younger than me, and my countryman. I can't help being happy/sad for him, irrational as it may be.

I've been following him since 2004 Davis Cup. The day he loses in RG I will feel pretty sad. It will feel like the end of a golden era.

I care little about the Slam record pipe dream, and I'm glad a great rival such as Djokovic still exists to bring the epic after Federer's demise.
 
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maxrenn

Legend
I hate to see him lose big matches as I do believe he truly loves winning and losing hurts him just like it did Federer. However he has won 8 of these things so to not win another wouldn't be a big deal. The only other reason would be that everybody would say he is done and should retire if he can't win the french anymore which would be ignoring the fact that it wouldn't be because he was done but more because Djokovic or Murray are just that good these days.
 

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
what about your Djokovic hatred? :)

Actually in all fairness to President he's not like that anymore towards Djokovic, at least not in the posts that I read. Not saying that he suddenly likes him but he's at least polite when he talks about Nole which is a lesson for everyone on this forum. I respect him for that.
 
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I hate to see him lose big matches as I do believe he truly loves winning and losing hurts him just like it did Federer. However he has won 8 of these things so to not win another wouldn't be a big deal. The only other reason would be that everybody would say he is done and should retire if he can't win the french anymore which would be ignoring the fact that it wouldn't be because he was done but more because Djokovic or Murray are just that good these days.

Really?

He is only the reigning and defending US Open champion...Even if he loses at RG, he is still more than capable for winning slams at other venues.

He has made the last three US Open finals that he contested. He also made the last two AO finals he contested. He is far from done...because if he is done, everyone else might as well quit.
 

Feather

Legend
Actually in all fairness to President he's not like that anymore towards Djokovic, at least not in the posts that I read. Not saying that he suddenly likes him but he's at least polite when he talks about Nole which is a lesson for everyone on this forum. I respect him for that.

I was away from this forum for almost an year. I could be wrong then
 

Alchemy-Z

Hall of Fame
as a Fed and Rafa fan I am pulling for 2 reasons.

If Novak makes the final and beat Nadal to win the french then the trolls will forever remind us Fed Fans of how Fed could never do it.

Now if Murray takes out Rafa in the semifinal...and then Novak wins it ( not a big deal)
Novak gets his Career slam- Murray get his first FO final and Rafa is still 8-0 for FO finals

as you said Rafa has won it 8 times- and is still a threat in the other slams

I mean nothing that happens from here on out will ever take away the fact Rafa is clay King- so no concern for that.

My concern for Novak not winning is if he does not get it this year combined with becoming a father his focus may drop.

at which point I expect Murray to start racking up slams and gaining the #1 spot
 

ScentOfDefeat

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic will most likely end up winning a RG. It's weird how suddenly, in one generation, there's 3 players with a career Grand Slam. When it used to be one of the rarest achievements in the game that even some of the greatest couldn't achieve.
 

Phoenix1983

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic will most likely end up winning a RG. It's weird how suddenly, in one generation, there's 3 players with a career Grand Slam. When it used to be one of the rarest achievements in the game that even some of the greatest couldn't achieve.

This is the main reason why I don't want Djokovic to win the FO.

I hate how the achievement of winning all four slams is being cheapened by seemingly every male great doing it, when the likes of Sampras, Borg, Lendl, Connors, McEnroe, Becker, Wilander, Newcombe, Edberg, Rosewall, etc. couldn't achieve it.
 

TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
Never heard you say that about Fed winning W.......

Funny how it's fine for Fed to win, but not Nadal....

Seems hinky that Peugot makes a huge deal with the non winner of RG as opposed to the RG king.....

Because there's no such thread like this one.

Since this thread is about Nadal, I stand by what I believe....one player win the same tournament for 9 out of 10 years is not good for the sport.
 
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