Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
The veteran umpire Carlos Bernardes suffered a heart attack a few months ago in Australia and Nadal was incredibly supportive and wished him a speedy recovery.
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Nadal had kind words for Carlos Bernardes during the Barcelona trophy presentation
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Yugram
Legend
Bernardes? Probably.
RaulRamirez
Legend
Kudos to both players here - both for the match they played, and for their graciousness at the awards ceremony.
TennisIcon
Rookie
I thought Bernades apologized a while ago and wasn’t he even working at the Nadal Academy for a while.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
There is peace between Rafa and Carlos Bernardes. Two summers in a row (2018 & 2019), Bernardes preferred to umpire at the ATP Challenger tournament (the Rafa Nadal Open) held at Rafa’s academy in Mallorca, instead of umpiring at the USO.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
Clay lover
Legend
Capy bara tears
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
Bernades didn't work at Rafa's academy, he was a chair umpire at the ATP Challenger tournament hosted by the academy.
Rafa4LifeEver
G.O.A.T.
Rafa the greatest warrior of tennis world is also a very nice human being.
clayqueen
Bionic Poster
It was not about time violation. Rafa had put his shorts on the wrong way round during the change over because he didn't want to exceed the time limit. He found out when he tried to put the spare ball in his pocket when play resumed so he asked Bernardes if he could go and turn them the right way round and Bernardes said he would have to give him a time violation warning if he did so Rafa changed his shorts on court wrapped in his towel whilst Bernardes was rolling with laughter. Rafa told Bernardes that he'd had enough of Bernardes always picking on him so reported him after the match and Bernardes was suspended from calling Rafa's matches for 10 months.
was it the first time when a healthy and fit Rafa lost a match? or it doesn't count?
Tennis_Hands
Banned
Heart attacks are often caused by inordinate amounts of stress: the kind caused also by players that threaten your position in your job, and also cause you other sorts of troubles.
He got his heart attack after he was told he would officiate Rafa’s match. The poor man couldn’t take the stress.Heart attacks are often caused by inordinate amounts of stress: the kind caused also by players that threaten your position in your job, and also cause you other sorts of troubles.
Novichok
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clayqueen
Bionic Poster
Rafael Nadal Confirms He Doesn’t Want Carlos Bernardes To Umpire His Matches
by Tom Gainey | May 26th, 2015, 11:59 am
“It was my request,” Nadal said. “I asked if it’s possible, but nothing personal against him 100%. I respect him as an umpire, I respect him as a person and I consider him a good person more than that.
“I would love to have Bernardes on the court again. Will happen, but, you know, I think for both of us it is better to have a break. We had some problems. For me he didn't show enough respect for me in Rio de Janeiro.”
Nadal took offense with Bernardes putting the clock on him for having to change his shorts when he accidently put them on the wrong way during the quarterfinals.
I think, you know, this shows no respect, because I cannot play a full game with my shorts the wrong way round. So it’s better. It’s better to be away for a while. That’s all. No personal problem with him, no? Seriously, I’m not saying that because I am in front of you. I respect him, I like him, but he was not right. And I believe that for our relationship and everything it's better to be away for a bit.”
Not wanting to wrake over old coals, even I had noticed that Bernardes always ruled against Rafa if there was a dispute about late calls, border line in/out and he imposed TV penalties more strictly on Rafa than on other players.
by Tom Gainey | May 26th, 2015, 11:59 am
“It was my request,” Nadal said. “I asked if it’s possible, but nothing personal against him 100%. I respect him as an umpire, I respect him as a person and I consider him a good person more than that.
“I would love to have Bernardes on the court again. Will happen, but, you know, I think for both of us it is better to have a break. We had some problems. For me he didn't show enough respect for me in Rio de Janeiro.”
Nadal took offense with Bernardes putting the clock on him for having to change his shorts when he accidently put them on the wrong way during the quarterfinals.
I think, you know, this shows no respect, because I cannot play a full game with my shorts the wrong way round. So it’s better. It’s better to be away for a while. That’s all. No personal problem with him, no? Seriously, I’m not saying that because I am in front of you. I respect him, I like him, but he was not right. And I believe that for our relationship and everything it's better to be away for a bit.”
Rafael Nadal Confirms He Doesn’t Want Carlos Bernardes To Umpire His Matches
Rafael Nadal doesn't like a certain chair umpire.
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Not wanting to wrake over old coals, even I had noticed that Bernardes always ruled against Rafa if there was a dispute about late calls, border line in/out and he imposed TV penalties more strictly on Rafa than on other players.
1. how many players are allowed by ATP to voice such requests?
2. how many of such requests are actually taken into account by ATP when deciding who will be the umpire for a given match?
ADuck
Legend
This is why I never trust the garbage that is regurgitated out of some Fed fanatics mouths.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
I wonder who threatened Bernardes in Australia this year?Heart attacks are often caused by inordinate amounts of stress: the kind caused also by players that threaten your position in your job, and also cause you other sorts of troubles.
perhaps he was terrified at the thought of potential accusation of not liking intelligent tennis?
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
ATP spokesman Simon Higson said that "requests such as this are not uncommon".
ESPN, May May 27, 2015: ¤¤ ATP spokesman Simon Higson said the tour wouldn't comment on any specific decisions related to how it picks chair umpires for matches. Speaking generally about a player asking for a certain umpire to be kept away from his matches, Higson wrote in an email: "Requests such as this are not uncommon, either from the player or the umpire." ¤¤
Here is Simon Higson's Twitter, where you can ask him questions:
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
This has has nothing to do with this thread.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
It amazes me that Rafa bashers still doesn't know that tournaments have used the serve clock for years.
Please tell that to Monsieur Dumusois. No one seems to have informed him about the serve clock
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
You are wrong.Please tell that to Monsieur Dumusois. No one seems to have informed him about the serve clock
can we have:
1. full list of players that demanded certain filtering of umpires to be assigned?
2. cross-check how many such demands were actually enforced by ATP / ITF?
You are cheating TT readers
Beckerserve
Legend
GOATDAL
Forehanderer
Professional
I wonder why 3 set tennis with tiebreaker option in all sets take 3-4 hours. Can Carlos or Dumusois explain. Or perhaps its just good tennis
Well, Dumusois has special treatment to only one customer. All the others do not receive any preferential treatment. As for Carlos, I guess he learned the hard way not to fool around with influential clients.
clayqueen
Bionic Poster
All players have the right to request that an an umpire doesn't call their matches. In fact, if the ATP tries not to ask umpires to call matches of players they have issues with.
clayqueen
Bionic Poster
I had noticed that Bernardes always ruled against Rafa if there was a dispute about late calls, border line in/out balls and he imposed TV penalties more strictly on Rafa than on other players.
clayqueen
Bionic Poster
I've been searching for this because I was at the O2 for this match against Berdych and Carlos was being unfair to Rafa. I was sitting close to the umpire's chair when this happened. Rafa called the ATP supervisor to adjudicate but as usual the supervisors do nothing.
One of the extraordinary abilities of John McEnroe was to act like a madman for many minutes, to insult the referee or the photographer and began to beat the scene for seconds after holding again his racket and hit an ace. Warm heart, cool head. Rafael Nadal did not reach that point, always respectful in his match with Tomas Berdych, but we've never seen him react so exalted to a decision by the linesman. Finally, the number one took his chance and from the following point, he crushed his opponent.
"What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos, it's crazy." The phrase echoes in London's O2. Moment of maximum tension. Nadal dictates the points but he is not able to break the resistance of an unnefective Berdych with his first serve, his best weapon, but very aggressive and direct in his game. The 'break' does not come and the Czech Republic's player has already secured the 'tie break' after the eleventh game of the match. Nadal needs to win this set to book his place in the semifinals. If he loses two straight sets, it will jeopardize his classification.
Nadal serves to stay alive in the first set. 15-15. The Spaniard sees the ball of his rival as out and he raises his arm instinctively though he does not stop the game and hit the ball back. It's Carlos Bernardes, the Brazilian chair umpire, who corrects the line and stops the match. Berdych, visibly upset, asks for the Hawk Eye, which gives him the reason. If it was Berdych who asked for Hawk Eye, Bernardes' call prevailed over Nadal's and therefore the point should be repeated. The judge decides to give the point to the Czech. 15-30, two points away from the set. The Spanish gets angry and even threatened to not continue playing, even after claiming the presence of the supervisor of the tournament, Tom Barnes. "You said it was bad," Bernardes justified. "But what match are you watching, Carlos? My ball was in," Nadal responds, and for the first time in his career he is reluctant to accept the sentence. "No, I won't play," he said before getting his cool back and return back to court.
Berdych's version in his press conference: "When you raise your hand, you stop the game. Rafa stopped because he saw the ball out. The judge agreed and changed the decision of the linesman, which had seen it good. I asked the 'Hawkeye' and I was right. No discussion possible." Nadal's version: "I could probably condition him. I was wrong on that because I raised my arm, but not with the intention of asking 'challenge', but intuitively because I thought the ball could have gone out. In any case, I hit the ball back and my ball was in, so the point should be repeated. The most possible thing is that the point was his, but things are very clear: I influenced the umpire but the umpire can not let himself be influenced by me. So, from the first time he calls the ball out, the point should be repeated." Nadal defended his right to complain. "If I think I have a reason, I have a right to complain"
Berdych had something to add: "The umpire was afraid of his reaction and let him talk too much. The rules are quite clear. He should have told him that he could not do that," he complained. Nadal's response: "He's been so afraid (Bernardez) that he gave the point to him," he joked. "At Wimbledon I was deprived of a very similar point against Soderling. That's how afraid umpires are of me. I've never intimidated an umpire." After the moment of high tension, Nadal picked up his racket and became a hurricane, pure electricity, John McEnroe. And Berdych was taken by the wind.
Andy Murray sounded more scared than Bernardes regarding his next match with World Number 1. Whether or not a bluff, he said: "I will try to win, but I'm not sure if I have too many chances against him. Obviously he is the best player in the world," admitted the Scot. "I've seen his matches and he is playing really well, and I do not usually win these big matches against big players." Nadal's not fooled: "Murray has won in amazing circumstances and at very important times, so I think he is ready to beat me, without problems."
Nadal: "What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos"
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octobrina10
Bionic Poster
Address your questions to Simon Higson, Executive Vice President & Chief Communications Officer for the ATP:
Hitman
Bionic Poster
I've been searching for this because I was at the O2 for this match against Berdych and Carlos was being unfair to Rafa. I was sitting close to the umpire's chair when this happened. Rafa called the ATP supervisor to adjudicate but as usual the supervisors do nothing.
One of the extraordinary abilities of John McEnroe was to act like a madman for many minutes, to insult the referee or the photographer and began to beat the scene for seconds after holding again his racket and hit an ace. Warm heart, cool head. Rafael Nadal did not reach that point, always respectful in his match with Tomas Berdych, but we've never seen him react so exalted to a decision by the linesman. Finally, the number one took his chance and from the following point, he crushed his opponent.
"What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos, it's crazy." The phrase echoes in London's O2. Moment of maximum tension. Nadal dictates the points but he is not able to break the resistance of an unnefective Berdych with his first serve, his best weapon, but very aggressive and direct in his game. The 'break' does not come and the Czech Republic's player has already secured the 'tie break' after the eleventh game of the match. Nadal needs to win this set to book his place in the semifinals. If he loses two straight sets, it will jeopardize his classification.
Nadal serves to stay alive in the first set. 15-15. The Spaniard sees the ball of his rival as out and he raises his arm instinctively though he does not stop the game and hit the ball back. It's Carlos Bernardes, the Brazilian chair umpire, who corrects the line and stops the match. Berdych, visibly upset, asks for the Hawk Eye, which gives him the reason. If it was Berdych who asked for Hawk Eye, Bernardes' call prevailed over Nadal's and therefore the point should be repeated. The judge decides to give the point to the Czech. 15-30, two points away from the set. The Spanish gets angry and even threatened to not continue playing, even after claiming the presence of the supervisor of the tournament, Tom Barnes. "You said it was bad," Bernardes justified. "But what match are you watching, Carlos? My ball was in," Nadal responds, and for the first time in his career he is reluctant to accept the sentence. "No, I won't play," he said before getting his cool back and return back to court.
Berdych's version in his press conference: "When you raise your hand, you stop the game. Rafa stopped because he saw the ball out. The judge agreed and changed the decision of the linesman, which had seen it good. I asked the 'Hawkeye' and I was right. No discussion possible." Nadal's version: "I could probably condition him. I was wrong on that because I raised my arm, but not with the intention of asking 'challenge', but intuitively because I thought the ball could have gone out. In any case, I hit the ball back and my ball was in, so the point should be repeated. The most possible thing is that the point was his, but things are very clear: I influenced the umpire but the umpire can not let himself be influenced by me. So, from the first time he calls the ball out, the point should be repeated." Nadal defended his right to complain. "If I think I have a reason, I have a right to complain"
Berdych had something to add: "The umpire was afraid of his reaction and let him talk too much. The rules are quite clear. He should have told him that he could not do that," he complained. Nadal's response: "He's been so afraid (Bernardez) that he gave the point to him," he joked. "At Wimbledon I was deprived of a very similar point against Soderling. That's how afraid umpires are of me. I've never intimidated an umpire." After the moment of high tension, Nadal picked up his racket and became a hurricane, pure electricity, John McEnroe. And Berdych was taken by the wind.
Andy Murray sounded more scared than Bernardes regarding his next match with World Number 1. Whether or not a bluff, he said: "I will try to win, but I'm not sure if I have too many chances against him. Obviously he is the best player in the world," admitted the Scot. "I've seen his matches and he is playing really well, and I do not usually win these big matches against big players." Nadal's not fooled: "Murray has won in amazing circumstances and at very important times, so I think he is ready to beat me, without problems."
Nadal: "What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos"
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Thanks for that @clayqueen
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
No.
I've been searching for this because I was at the O2 for this match against Berdych and Carlos was being unfair to Rafa. I was sitting close to the umpire's chair when this happened. Rafa called the ATP supervisor to adjudicate but as usual the supervisors do nothing.
One of the extraordinary abilities of John McEnroe was to act like a madman for many minutes, to insult the referee or the photographer and began to beat the scene for seconds after holding again his racket and hit an ace. Warm heart, cool head. Rafael Nadal did not reach that point, always respectful in his match with Tomas Berdych, but we've never seen him react so exalted to a decision by the linesman. Finally, the number one took his chance and from the following point, he crushed his opponent.
"What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos, it's crazy." The phrase echoes in London's O2. Moment of maximum tension. Nadal dictates the points but he is not able to break the resistance of an unnefective Berdych with his first serve, his best weapon, but very aggressive and direct in his game. The 'break' does not come and the Czech Republic's player has already secured the 'tie break' after the eleventh game of the match. Nadal needs to win this set to book his place in the semifinals. If he loses two straight sets, it will jeopardize his classification.
Nadal serves to stay alive in the first set. 15-15. The Spaniard sees the ball of his rival as out and he raises his arm instinctively though he does not stop the game and hit the ball back. It's Carlos Bernardes, the Brazilian chair umpire, who corrects the line and stops the match. Berdych, visibly upset, asks for the Hawk Eye, which gives him the reason. If it was Berdych who asked for Hawk Eye, Bernardes' call prevailed over Nadal's and therefore the point should be repeated. The judge decides to give the point to the Czech. 15-30, two points away from the set. The Spanish gets angry and even threatened to not continue playing, even after claiming the presence of the supervisor of the tournament, Tom Barnes. "You said it was bad," Bernardes justified. "But what match are you watching, Carlos? My ball was in," Nadal responds, and for the first time in his career he is reluctant to accept the sentence. "No, I won't play," he said before getting his cool back and return back to court.
Berdych's version in his press conference: "When you raise your hand, you stop the game. Rafa stopped because he saw the ball out. The judge agreed and changed the decision of the linesman, which had seen it good. I asked the 'Hawkeye' and I was right. No discussion possible." Nadal's version: "I could probably condition him. I was wrong on that because I raised my arm, but not with the intention of asking 'challenge', but intuitively because I thought the ball could have gone out. In any case, I hit the ball back and my ball was in, so the point should be repeated. The most possible thing is that the point was his, but things are very clear: I influenced the umpire but the umpire can not let himself be influenced by me. So, from the first time he calls the ball out, the point should be repeated." Nadal defended his right to complain. "If I think I have a reason, I have a right to complain"
Berdych had something to add: "The umpire was afraid of his reaction and let him talk too much. The rules are quite clear. He should have told him that he could not do that," he complained. Nadal's response: "He's been so afraid (Bernardez) that he gave the point to him," he joked. "At Wimbledon I was deprived of a very similar point against Soderling. That's how afraid umpires are of me. I've never intimidated an umpire." After the moment of high tension, Nadal picked up his racket and became a hurricane, pure electricity, John McEnroe. And Berdych was taken by the wind.
Andy Murray sounded more scared than Bernardes regarding his next match with World Number 1. Whether or not a bluff, he said: "I will try to win, but I'm not sure if I have too many chances against him. Obviously he is the best player in the world," admitted the Scot. "I've seen his matches and he is playing really well, and I do not usually win these big matches against big players." Nadal's not fooled: "Murray has won in amazing circumstances and at very important times, so I think he is ready to beat me, without problems."
Nadal: "What you're saying is outrageous, Carlos"
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Nadal devotee, 'The rules are quite clear'
if Nadal stopped the rally claiming the ball was out, but Hawk-Eye says the ball was in, then point goes to Berdych
if you don't like this, go talk to the ATP about rules
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Come on, use the whole clip, the best part is the end. Edit: sorry, I didn’t realize it was “age restricted.” Insane censorship!Fognini really winded him a bit too much...
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
He knows it wasn't because of time violations. All his recent posts have been taking a dig at Rafa. Rafa winning Barcelona and showing he's in good form for RG has driven some Djokovic fans like Mahesh crazy. He tries to be subtle about it but just can't hide it. He's turned into one of those crazy fans hating a player they have never even met once.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Rafa could have lost in Barcelona, it has utterly no bearing on RG. Rafa could lose MC, Barcelona, Madrid and Rome and still be overwhelmingly favored at RG. And most Djokovic fans have admitted this here, some even wishing Djokovic would skip clay and focus on Wimbledon.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
I haven't seen Mahesh wishing Djoko skip clay season.
mahesh69a
Professional
As I have mentioned many times, I don't have a horse in the Big 3 race (rationally speaking, after the 3 have achieved so much, deciding who is the best is just personal preference and not an objective fact) - subtlety has never been my strong suit, I like to call a jackass a jackass. I posted a comment about taking medical cues from athletes in the 'Andy Murray on vaccination' thread - the post was deleted by the rationally challenged mods and later the entire thread was deleted of course.
I definitely don't hate some global multi-millionaire superstar who has no impact on me (and vice versa).
I might have forgotten some things about matches like the one in 2015 (I remember Carlos did give time violations to Nadal, just don't remember which match in particular), but I will try to be more careful and do more thorough fact checking and re-verify any stats that I post before posting.
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Hitman
Bionic Poster
True. What happens anywhere on the clay before RG has next to zero bearing on Nadal at RG. It amuses me when some think just because he is vulnerable in these smaller events, that it means the time has come. He could lose first round at both Madrid and Rome, and it still wouldn't matter. The gap between him and everyone else at RG is beyond a joke at this point.
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