Nadal has beaten Djokovic 5 times in a row before..

[FedExpress117]

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=N409&oId=D643

Of course one of those was a Davis Cup I think. And 4 out of those 5 were on clay. He also beat him 7 out of 8 times at one point. And 9 out of Nadal's 16 victories are on clay, Djokovic still owns him on hard courts and has a significant win on grass.

Interestingly enough, after those matches, Nadal started to have his knee problems and Djokovic went on a big slump (lost in 3rd round of RG). I just found it interesting that no one would bring that up in today's context (though I'm sure these message boards were going crazy at the time). Anything could still happen next year. One victory by Nadal might have a lot of people saying he's finally solved the Djoker, but no one would have thought Djokovic would have done this to Nadal 2 years after Nadal's streak against Djokovic.

I also just looked, Nadal won against Federer five times in a row, TWICE in his career, yet it's still most of the time a good, close match when they play (depends..). Federer still owns Rafa on grass and hard courts though.

 

[namelessone]

Djokovic is a worse matchup for Nadal than Nadal is for Fed.

That's what I am seeing lately.

Nadal, as comfortable as he was abusing Fed's BH, still had to play tremendous matches to win most time, regardless of surface.

Djokovic playing Nadal feels like he can even ease off a bit and the result will still not be in doubt.

 

[aphex]

Because that was Nole, Roddick's whipping boy.

This now is Novak, of the Novak-Novak era.

 

[aphex]

Djokovic is a worse matchup for Nadal than Nadal is for Fed.

That's what I am seeing lately.

Nadal, as comfortable as he was abusing Fed's BH, still had to play tremendous matches to win most time, regardless of surface.

Djokovic playing Nadal feels like he can even ease off a bit and the result will still not be in doubt.

You just have to wake up at some point. Nadal can only dream of playing at this level.

He had the best serving match of his life yesterday and still got beaten down...

Just accept it...Novak is a far superior athlete...

 

[namelessone]

You just have to wake up at some point. Nadal can only dream of playing at this level.

He had the best serving match of his life yesterday and still got beaten down...

Just accept it...Novak is a far superior athlete...

Well I'm convinced now.

100 trolling points for you.

 

[aphex]

Well I'm convinced now.

100 trolling points for you.

Honestly. Do you think the best version of Ralpha you have ever witnessed can beat this Djoko (especially the 2011 clay Djoko)?

 

[8PAQ]

Djokovic is a worse matchup for Nadal than Nadal is for Fed.

That's what I am seeing lately.

Nadal, as comfortable as he was abusing Fed's BH, still had to play tremendous matches to win most time, regardless of surface.

Djokovic playing Nadal feels like he can even ease off a bit and the result will still not be in doubt.

How can you tell? I think you are back to your lowered expectations crap just so that Nadal looks like a genius when he beats Novak again.

I think Novak has to play close to his best to beat Nadal. None of those matches even the straight set ones on clay were really that comfortable for Novak. I always felt like a single slip up and Nadal will take control of the match like he used to do with Novak.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nadal beats Novak at WTF this year because Novak be losing his focus after such an intense season.

 

[8PAQ]

Djokovic is a worse matchup for Nadal than Nadal is for Fed.

That's what I am seeing lately.

Nadal, as comfortable as he was abusing Fed's BH, still had to play tremendous matches to win most time, regardless of surface.

Djokovic playing Nadal feels like he can even ease off a bit and the result will still not be in doubt.

I don't agree and I am talking about prime Fed. Nadal always had really easy game plan to beat Fed on clay. Serve and hit everything to Fed BH. Eventually you get a short reply or even an outright error back. If Fed gets into God mode then take a MTO to stop his momentum.

With Nadal, Novak can't just keep shooting everything to his BH because it isn't as bad at handing Novak's FH as Fed BH is at handling Nadal's FH. So Novak actually needs to move Nadal around more than Nadal needs to keep Fed moving around. It's more complicated for Novak to win.

 

[tennis_fan_182]

You just have to wake up at some point. Nadal can only dream of playing at this level.

He had the best serving match of his life yesterday and still got beaten down...

Just accept it...Novak is a far superior athlete...

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

 

[8PAQ]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

So you are saying that Monfis is the GOAT?

 

[Mustard]

Of course one of those was a Davis Cup I think. And 4 out of those 5 were on clay. He also beat him 7 out of 8 times at one point.

It was actually 8 out of 9, going from 6-3 to 14-4.

Rafael Nadal 16-12 Novak Djokovic
2006 French Open QF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4 ret.)
2007 Indian Wells F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-2, 7-5)
2007 Miami QF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-3, 6-4)
2007 Rome QF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-2, 6-3)
2007 French Open SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-4, 6-2)
2007 Wimbledon SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (3-6, 6-1, 4-1 ret.)
2007 Montreal SF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (7-5, 6-3)
2007 Masters Cup RR: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4)
2008 Indian Wells SF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-3, 6-2)
2008 Hamburg SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 2-6, 6-2)
2008 French Open SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
2008 Queen's Club F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-6, 7-5)
2008 Cincinnati SF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-1, 7-5)
2008 Beijing Olympics SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 1-6, 6-4)
2009 Davis Cup 1R: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4, 6-1)
2009 Monte Carlo F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-3, 2-6, 6-1)
2009 Rome F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-6, 6-2)
2009 Madrid SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (3-6, 7-6, 7-6)
2009 Cincinnati SF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-1, 6-4)
2009 Paris Indoor SF: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 6-3)
2009 World Tour Finals RR: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (7-6, 6-3)
2010 US Open F: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2)
2010 World Tour Finals RR: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-2)
2011 Indian Wells F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 6-2)
2011 Miami F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (4-6, 6-3, 7-6)
2011 Madrid F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (7-5, 6-4)
2011 Rome F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-4, 6-4)
2011 Wimbledon F: Novak Djokovic def. Rafael Nadal (6-4, 6-1, 1-6, 6-3)

Hardcourt: 9-5 to Djokovic
Clay: 9-2 to Nadal
Grass: 2-1 to Nadal
Carpet: 0-0
In Slams: 5-1 to Nadal

 

[aphex]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

Source?

Or are you talking out of your bum?

 

[Sentinel]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

You said it !

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

Usain Bolt for GOAT... almface:

 

[blue steel]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

nadal is the greatest exerciser of all time and the track and field GOAT

 

[TennisFan3]

I'm glad that Nadal got the early lead at least with Novak. So the overall thing scorewise can't look that bad.

Anyway, unless Nadal flattens out his forehand, and improves his backhand, this Nadal-Djoko matchup may look worse than Fed-Nadal.

And it's not like Nadal cannot do this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CvCxCnOC7Q&feature=related

At 17, half the size he is now, Nadal was hitting forehand at 160 kmph. Many of his winners are comfortably over the 150 kmph mark. They were flat and penetrate the court.

These days his top spin just sits up, and Djoko eats it up..

 

[Murrayfan31]

I think it's fair to say that the Fedal era is over. Djokovic will dominate both Nadal and Federer and win a bunch of slams the next couple years. It's time to put to sleep the thought of Nadal or Federer beating Djokovic.

 

[mcenroefan]

Look at Nadal. Look at Djokovic.

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

The difference between the two is all mental: Djokovic is in Nadal's head. He won't be for much longer and then we shall find out who the truly superior athlete is.

If all that you say is true, why is Nole uniformly recognized as having better court coverage than Nadal?

I think your way off with all of these statements. Big biceps don't necessarily translate to better tennis....just ask Roddick and Fish.

Nole is fast, strong and flexible.

 

[stingstang]

Who LOOKS like the superior athlete? Who do you think has the bigger bench press, deadlift, squat...etc...? Who do you think has the faster 100 yard dash time? And the better pro shuttle drill for change of directional speed? And the higher vertical leap? And the bigger VO2 max? And the quicker ultra-marathon time (if both were to run one), or the quicker triathlon time?

I'll give you a clue, it ain't Novak. In ANY of the above.

Djokovic used to be a skinny fat man, now after cutting out the gluten he is just skinny.

Yeah because you really need to press 500lbs to swing a babolat apd! :lol:


Djokers athleticism is like a gymnasts, its like he's made of rubber.