Nadal has the easiest draw yet again at a grand slam

FiReFTW

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People talk about Federer but Nadal actually has by far the easier draw, he has had shockingly cakewalk draws in the USO2017, FO2018 and now W2018.

Nadal's wimbledon 2018 draw:

Sela
Kukushkin
Minaur
Vesely
Del Potro probably (a player who sucks on grass)
Nishikori or Khachanov (both the easiest draw on grass ever) or Djokovic (only hard opponent he MIGHT play)

Meanwhile Fed has all the huge servers and big hitters like Anderson, Raonic, Isner etc..
 
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Fed and Nadal both have a very easy path to the final.

It’s clear that the Wimbledon organisers desperately want Federer vs Nadal IV.

ReMeMbEr WiMbLeDoN 2008? gReAtesT mAtch oF aLl TiMe.
 
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Sport

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People talk about Federer but Nadal actually has by far the easier draw, he has had shockingly cakewalk draws in the USO2017, FO2018 and now W2018.

Nadal's wimbledon 2018 draw:

Sela
Kukushkin
Minaur
Vesely
Del Potro probably (a player who sucks on grass)

First four are compensated by Federer's easy first opponents: Lajokovic, Lacko, Struff and Mannarino. First rounds are supposed to be for easy rivals, so it is normal.

But we would expect difficult players at QF and SF.

Federer: Anderson (0 GS titles, 0 SF at WB) and Raonic (0 GS titles).

Nadal: Del Potro (1 GS title, 1 SF at WB, 1 Olympic Medal on grass defeating 2012 Djokovic) and Djokovic (12 GS titles, 3 WB titles).


Logical conclusion: Nadal has a draw from hell, while Federer has a much easier route to the final. Only an unobjective Fed fan would say that Anderson and Raonic>>> Del Potro and Djokovic.
 

metsman

Talk Tennis Guru
First four are compensated by Lajokovic, Lacko, Struff and Mannarino. First rounds are supposed to be for easy rivals, so it is normal.

But we would expect difficult players at QF and SF.

Federer: Anderson (0 GS titles, 0 SF at WB) and Raonic (0 GS titles).

Nadal: Del Potro (1 GS title, 1 SF at WB, 1 Olympic Medal on grass defeating 2012 Djokovic) and Djokovic (12 GS titles, 3 WB titles).


Logical conclusion: Nadal has a draw from hell, while Federer has a much easier route to the final. Only an unobjective Fed fan would say that Anderson and Raonic>>> Del Potro and Djokovic.
cmon man, Pete Sampras has 7 Wimbys but that doesn't make him a tough Wimbledon 18 opponent, actually he'd probably still be tougher than 95% of these mugs.
 

Standaa

G.O.A.T.
cmon man, Pete Sampras has 7 Wimbys but that doesn't make him a tough Wimbledon 18 opponent, actually he'd probably still be tougher than 95% of these mugs.

Delpo had a great 2018 thus far, he even beat Federer and Anderson in finals, what has Raonic done all season? What’s that? He made a final in Wimbledon 2016? Well Cilic made it last year and it’s not like it matters..

Djoko is also playing really well during this grass court season, Nadal would gladly swap his draw with Federer
 

mistik

Hall of Fame
First four are compensated by Federer's easy first opponents: Lajokovic, Lacko, Struff and Mannarino. First rounds are supposed to be for easy rivals, so it is normal.

But we would expect difficult players at QF and SF.

Federer: Anderson (0 GS titles, 0 SF at WB) and Raonic (0 GS titles).

Nadal: Del Potro (1 GS title, 1 SF at WB, 1 Olympic Medal on grass defeating 2012 Djokovic) and Djokovic (12 GS titles, 3 WB titles).


Logical conclusion: Nadal has a draw from hell, while Federer has a much easier route to the final. Only an unobjective Fed fan would say that Anderson and Raonic>>> Del Potro and Djokovic.
It isnt just who they faced either all the potential risky player were in Nadal and Djokovic side before the tournament begin ,it is always the same thing in Wimbledon for the last 4 or 5 years since Fed getting older. It is like he should never face tricky opponent before the semis or something.So rigged everyone nows.
 

metsman

Talk Tennis Guru
Delpo had a great 2018 thus far, he even beat Federer and Anderson in finals, what has Raonic done all season? What’s that? He made a final in 2016? Well Cilic made him last year and it’s not like it matters..

Djoko is also playing really well during this grass court season, Nadal would gladly swap his draw with Federer
let's maybe see how they all play before we call people tough or weak opponents. If this forum understood that we'd all be much better off.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
cmon man, Pete Sampras has 7 Wimbys but that doesn't make him a tough Wimbledon 18 opponent, actually he'd probably still be tougher than 95% of these mugs.
Fallacy of bad analogy. Sampras is 46-year-old and is retired. Del Potro is the #4 in the world and only 29-year-old. And you are suggesting that Anderson, who is 32-year-old and has 0 SF at WB is better on grass than Delpo. Or that a 3 times WB champion like Djokovic is worse on grass than Raonic.

I love the double standard here.
Nadal faces Anderson at the USO 2017: Anderson is sooooooooooooooooooo easy.
Federer faces Anderson at Wimbledon 2018: Anderson is an EXTREMELLY dangerous server.

Fanatics.

Federer has a far easier draw this Wimbledon. It's so simply as that.
 

Standaa

G.O.A.T.
let's maybe see how they all play before we call people tough or weak opponents. If this forum understood that we'd all be much better off.

What kind of logic is this? So I can’t say Fed would be tough for Nadal if they meet, before they play?
 

metsman

Talk Tennis Guru
Fallacy of bad analogy. Sampras is 46-year-old and is retired. Del Potro is the #4 in the world and only 29-year-old. And you are suggesting Anderson, who is 32-year-old and has 0 SF at WB is better on grass than Delpo. Or that a 3 times WB champions like Djokovic is worse on grass than Raonic.

I love the double standard here.
Anderson faces Nadal at the USO 2017: He is sooooooooooooooooooo easy.
Federer faces Anderson at Wimbledon 2018: He is an EXTREMELLY dangerous server.

Fanatics.
are you saying PETE is not an extremelly dangerous server?
 

metsman

Talk Tennis Guru
What kind of logic is this? So I can’t say Fed would be tough for Nadal if they meet, before they play?
Fred could serve 40% with 80 UFE for all you know. This is how we get 'Mury GOAT, he beat Djok in slam finals' and 'nadal/djokovic had the toughest competition' bs.
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
Makes zero sense, sorry. It's not an easy draw by any means on grass from now on. Everyone has had supposedly "easy" first 4 opponents, just representative of the expectations from others in this field (zilch).

I will say this, though: whoever makes each round is in better form than whoever got knocked out, so technically each player ends up with the toughest possible route they could have had, based on form and circumstances.
 

Standaa

G.O.A.T.
Fred could serve 40% with 80 UFE for all you know. This is how we get 'Mury GOAT, he beat Djok in slam finals' and 'nadal/djokovic had the toughest competition' bs.

So far we have no reason to think that. Did I say one has an easier draw than the other? No, but Nadal’s opponents are clearly tougher on paper.
 

Terry Tibbs

Hall of Fame
Come on man, Nadal had a favourable draw at US Open but no way does he have an easy draw this time. Its normal for it to be fairly routine for the top guys up until the quarters as it has been for both Fed and Nadal so far. However from this point in, if results go as expected, Nadal will have to go through delpo, Djokovic and Federer to win it. This is much harder than Federer's route.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Its funny how subjective this argument is because if Fed got Delpo and Rafa got Anderson I'm sure it would be

"Federer gets a former grand Slam champ while Rafa gets the worst finalist in history"

Realistically, for the first 3 rounds BOTH men had a total cakewalk. I'd probably say Mannarino >>> Vesely however Vesely did manage to eliminate 2 seeds before he got to Rafa so its not like he wasn't doing something right.
 

Eye Test

Rookie
Fed has a literal cakewalk reminiscent of Dull’s 2017 USO.
He’s playing scrubs until the final, i’d be shocked if he lost a set.

OTOH, dull, as much as i hate him, has a nightmare bloodbath of Delpo/Nole/Fed to go through.
 

AlexanderTheGreat08

Hall of Fame
People talk about Federer but Nadal actually has by far the easier draw, he has had shockingly cakewalk draws in the USO2017, FO2018 and now W2018.

Nadal's wimbledon 2018 draw:

Sela
Kukushkin
Minaur
Vesely
Del Potro probably (a player who sucks on grass)
Nishikori or Khachanov (both the easiest draw on grass ever) or Djokovic (only hard opponent he MIGHT play)

Meanwhile Fed has all the huge servers and big hitters like Anderson, Raonic, Isner etc..
If you’re going to waste your time trolling , At least do it good
 

Eye Test

Rookie
I had a look at 2006 AO draw for Fraud. Istomin, Mayer, Mirnyi, Haas, davydenko, kiefer , Baghdatis. Just as I thought beating up mugs in a weak era. Least Nadal had to play Del potto at us open 2017. Fraudtards haha

An objective observer could argue Fed had absolutey no worthy competition during his most productive 2003-2007 period, even baby Dull caused him grave problems.

I mean Hewitt/Roddick/Nalbandian lol, as much as i worship my idol thats just not a good competition.
 

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Eye Test

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Here's an idea, how about we all just shut the **** up whining about draws every time one is made and just talk about the actual tennis?
Its difficult to do as most of my fellow fed fans on here believe Rafael has had the benefit of rigged draws for most of his career...
 
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Chadillac

Guest
Massive troll alert considering the players left in Federer's draw and Nadal potentially having to face Del Potro and Djokovic before the final.

Except that he plays the winner of that match...

One quarter is hard, the other is soft. That ensures nadal is fresh and his opponent is tired.

Its a shame fixing professional sports is legal (private org).
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Its difficult to do as most of my fellow fed fans on here believe Rafael has had rigged draws most of his career...
Nadal lost to opponents outside the top 100 for 4 years in a row at Wimbledon. How do you rig a draw for him here? People just love complaining. Now Del Potro and Simon are suspended for the evening, let more moaning commence.

Meanwhile Federer won a set today in 15 minutes, but that's just because he's so great.
 

zep

Hall of Fame
Only a deranged Federer fanatic can think that Del Potro and Djokovic who's starting to play well again are easier than whoever Federer has got on the other side. It is in fact as tough as it can get.
 

zep

Hall of Fame
You got to be kidding. Their draws are similiar but Djokovic and delpo being in nadals half is much tougher. Plus Cilic fell earlier in feds side. Fed had the cakewalk this time

If Federer had to go through Del Potro, Djokovic and then Nadal I wouldn't have picked him to win the title. From QF onward Nadal's draw is tough as it can get. Yes he did get a good draw in the first 4 rounds.
 
Only a deranged Federer fanatic can think that Del Potro and Djokovic who's starting to play well again are easier than whoever Federer has got on the other side. It is in fact as tough as it can get.
Del Potro played just now almost 3,5 hours and maybe a couple more tomorrow. Very tough.
 

jackdaw

Rookie
Congrats to Nadal, he won 3 slams in 2018, who would have thought it ?

FO, Wimby, and USO guaranteed ...

Jesus, I seriously think the guy will end up on 26/27 slams...
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
We should be discussing the draw from Djokovic's perspective as he is actually the #2 favourite for the title. Nishikori next for him, then Nadal/Del Potro/Simon in the semis.

But no-one here knows what they're talking about when it comes to draws, myself included.
 

Kozzy

Hall of Fame
Nadal's had an easy draw so far, but so has Federer. I'm sure he's not looking forward to facing Isner or Raonic, assuming that he gets through Anderson, which he should, but I bet he'd prefer that to Delpo and then possibly Djokovic, who is rounding into form pretty well. I think if Djokovic makes the semis, there's a good chance he'll win the whole thing. He seems to be regaining that mental toughness and he's not missing so many easy balls. If that happens, the party's probably over for Fed/Rafa.
 
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