Nadal in 3 easy sets... My gut feeling...

Jackuar

Hall of Fame
#1
There is this fight between my brain and gut, (for a change, not brain vs heart). Brain says it should be an interesting 5 set, should be. Gut feeling tells, that all the confidence the terminator, er..., Thieminator, had built by winning an amazing 6 GS matches, will evaporate in half a set, only to end up as a dumb-firecracker, single man catwalk... er, bull-walk show come Sunday.

So, what does your gut say?

Edit: The silver lining is that my gut said Delpo can give a serious fight, so its well error prone, so some hope to go wrong there and get an interesting final.
 

BVSlam

Professional
#2
While I doubt Del Potro played well today with a scoreline like that, still, Nadal is in a relatively unbeatable mode again. Maybe he's less consistent level-wise compared to 2008 or 2012 or something like that, but aside from a few hiccups (that still only resulted in one lost set and two tiebreak sets), this is yet again a typically dominant RG performance by Nadal.

So my gut says that there will be no surprises in the final. Nadal has the complete mental advantage in these circumstances and is playing well enough that Thiem is going have to do something really special to beat him in a Roland Garros final. If he does somehow do it, than I tip my hat off to him for an awesome slam title run beating the two most successful players on clay this season.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
#3
I've been feeling this week that a Nadal upset is brewing because he hasn't looked anywhere near as invincible as last year to my eyes. Del Potro gave up after he didn't capitalize in the first set but Thiem is young and strong and he may be ready. I know Nadal is a different beast in a RG final and that this is Thiem's first final, he often becomes an error machine in matches and he hasn't been that strong mentally in big stage matches, but I'll still go with the brazen(and probably stupid) upset prediction. And it's not because I dislike Nadal because I don't for sure. If he wins #11, I'll be happy for him.
 

rjms

Semi-Pro
#7
my gut feeling bull will roll bulldozer over thiem (which i am afraid of)

FROM: A RAFA HATER AND A RAFA ADMIRER ( DON'T WANT HIM TO CROSS RF'S GS TALLY OR GET ANYWHERE NEAR THAT)

MAY THE BULL MEET HIS FEAT OR BULLDOZE THE OPPONENT AS THE WISH OF THE MIGHTIEST
 
#9
I will be happy for whoever wins, and hope it's a great match - hopefully a 5 set epic with high quality tennis. The Rafa fan in me will of course be rooting for Rafa, but I think the game needs some new champions, and Thiem has been knocking at the door for a little while now. Still, I don't hold out much hope for that. I was sure Delpo would make things more competitive than they were - Thiem won't wear out, but I'm not sure he can be consistent enough for long enough. His best chance is to blast it out in straight sets.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
#14
I think Thiem has a real chance. Think about it. He beat Nadal in Madrid. Got knocked out of Rome early... made the questionable decision to play a small tournament the week before RG to build confidence and he succeeded by winning that tournament and now making it to the RG final to face the clay goat. I mention the last 4 weeks bc I think what happened during that time will help Thiem have faith in himself even if he falls behind or is under pressure against Nadal. He knows he has what it takes to win, but he also knows sometimes things don’t go your way (like in Rome). That is the best mindset for a tennis player to have (having belief, but not getting too hung up on a bad outcome). Thiem definitely has the game to pressure Nadal. He just needs to apply that pressure for up to 5 sets. Many players once they fall behind get very discouraged by Nadal’s barrage of heavy lefty shots and his terrifying grunting. I think Thiem will be ready.
 
#17
I think Thiem has a real chance. Think about it. He beat Nadal in Madrid. Got knocked out of Rome early... made the questionable decision to play a small tournament the week before RG to build confidence and he succeeded by winning that tournament and now making it to the RG final to face the clay goat. I mention the last 4 weeks bc I think what happened during that time will help Thiem have faith in himself even if he falls behind or is under pressure against Nadal. He knows he has what it takes to win, but he also knows sometimes things don’t go your way (like in Rome). That is the best mindset for a tennis player to have (having belief, but not getting too hung up on a bad outcome). Thiem definitely has the game to pressure Nadal. He just needs to apply that pressure for up to 5 sets. Many players once they fall behind get very discouraged by Nadal’s barrage of heavy lefty shots and his terrifying grunting. I think Thiem will be ready.
I'd be with you if I hadn't already seen this show before.

Last year's win was in Rome, not Madrid, but he still had plenty of time to build his confidence back up the first week of RG. And he couldn't have asked for a better chest-puffer than the beatdown he gave Novak in the quarters, the same guy he suffered a let-down against after beating Rafa in Rome. It meant absolutely nothing when faced with Nadal on Chatrier.
 

wangs78

Hall of Fame
#19
I'd be with you if I hadn't already seen this show before.

Last year's win was in Rome, not Madrid, but he still had plenty of time to build his confidence back up the first week of RG. And he couldn't have asked for a better chest-puffer than the beatdown he gave Novak in the quarters, the same guy he suffered a let-down against after beating Rafa in Rome. It meant absolutely nothing when faced with Nadal on Chatrier.
I hear you. But last year, after he whupped Nole in the QF he felt great and probably thiught he was couldtake out Nadal in similar fashion as well. In other words he could have been overconfident. This year I am sure even if he is up 2 breaks in a set or 2 sets to love, he will know the danger.

And look I am speaking with my heart here. Would I put money on Thiem on Sunday? Haha, NOPE, but I REALLY would like to see one of the young uns beat Nadal in an RG final, with Thiem being my first choice :)
 

Sunny Ali

Professional
#20
I like Dominic, I really do. And further more, I like how he said he's got a plan against Nadal in the final.

Well, Mike Tyson did too, until the first punch landed on his face ... and you know what he subsequently said!

:)
 
#23
Thiem adjusts on clay against individual players compared to Del Potro who plays a similar game to his hardcourt. He returns and plays much more aggressive on the baseline against Nadal compared to other opponents. I would be surprised if he lost in 3 amd I think this may go to 5 sets with Thiems current form.
 
#24
There is this fight between my brain and gut, (for a change, not brain vs heart). Brain says it should be an interesting 5 set, should be. Gut feeling tells, that all the confidence the terminator, er..., Thieminator, had built by winning an amazing 6 GS matches, will evaporate in half a set, only to end up as a dumb-firecracker, single man catwalk... er, bull-walk show come Sunday.

So, what does your gut say?

Edit: The silver lining is that my gut said Delpo can give a serious fight, so its well error prone, so some hope to go wrong there and get an interesting final.
Agree, RAFA has never lost to a guy with 1-handed backhand ever at the French open
 
#28
There is this fight between my brain and gut, (for a change, not brain vs heart). Brain says it should be an interesting 5 set, should be. Gut feeling tells, that all the confidence the terminator, er..., Thieminator, had built by winning an amazing 6 GS matches, will evaporate in half a set, only to end up as a dumb-firecracker, single man catwalk... er, bull-walk show come Sunday.

So, what does your gut say?

Edit: The silver lining is that my gut said Delpo can give a serious fight, so its well error prone, so some hope to go wrong there and get an interesting final.
Agreed. Think self doubt will enter Theim early in the match. If Theim could remove emotions from the match, he can match strokes with Nadal. Even on clay.
 
#34
Thiem has a legit chance. Although the conditions are much different from his win vs Rafa @ Madrid, he will still use that as a motivating factor that he beat him recently. I still think Rafa wins in 4.
 
#35
There is this fight between my brain and gut, (for a change, not brain vs heart). Brain says it should be an interesting 5 set, should be. Gut feeling tells, that all the confidence the terminator, er..., Thieminator, had built by winning an amazing 6 GS matches, will evaporate in half a set, only to end up as a dumb-firecracker, single man catwalk... er, bull-walk show come Sunday.

So, what does your gut say?

Edit: The silver lining is that my gut said Delpo can give a serious fight, so its well error prone, so some hope to go wrong there and get an interesting final.
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