Nadal interview, about doping, the puppets sketches, the French public

[Crisstti]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oAcNTH5zo

They talk at the beginning of the anti-doping control he had, Rafa explains how it works, that the players have to say at what time they’re going to be home for sure, that he had said between 8:00 and 9:00 am., that they came at 8:00 o’clock. Answering to questions from the interviewer, he says that it’s unpleasant and that you mainly just want to get it over with as soon as possible. But that it’s important that there are controls and to make sure the sport is clean. That in his opinion the ways in which they’re done are often not the adequate ones.

Then at around 1:20 he begins to ask him about the Canal Plus thing.

Rafa: “Well, at the end I think they’re a little bit obsessed with the issue of doping in the neighbouring country, but… evidently, I think here in this country, we’ve given them, in Spain, more propaganda than we should. I think the first sketch is acceptable…

Q: You didn’t mind much that one?.

Rafa: (around 1:58 )The truth is I didn’t even hear about it… let’s see, “I didn’t hear about it”, of course I heard about it, but I didn’t watch it, I didn’t waste time watching it, but then (the whole thing) was growing…

Q: And when you see it, with whom do you see it and what is your reaction?.

Rafa: No, I see it at home, on a couch, the truth is I saw it on my own, but nothing, really, obviously you don’t like it, no one does, but then the thing is that they can influence the perception of many people of Spanish sport, no?, and it’s wanting to give an explanation, to a success, in the totally wrong way, and in bad faith I think.

Q: And why all of this?, where does it start, why does it start?.

Rafa: (around 2:46) I think it mainly starts for wanting to give an explanation… to winning, and the explanation to triumphing, to winning, is no other than, first, a generation, a series of generations together, who have triumphed, there’s always some luck that affects that, but then many other things must have been well done in order for this to happen, no?, and I think that mainly it’s effort, spirit of self-improvement, and the desire to be there, and the daily work, all of that is vital, the daily humility to want to be better, to work hard. And from the neighbouring country, maybe they want to give an explanation to success, no?.

The interviewer asks about Noah, saying he was the first one to come out with this (notice Rafa’s angry face there, lol).

Rafa: I think that’s intolerable, especially coming from whom it’s coming. Becaue that people who don’t know about sport say this, well at the end they don’t have all the information, but people who are inside the world of sport, who know how professionalized the issue of the anti-doping control is, no elite athlete can be competing today if he’s not clean. I, this far in the year, have been tested already 3 or 4 times, it’s impossible to cheat… first, I personally don’t understand sport with cheating, I understand that one gets until where one is capable of…

Q: But you wouldn’t either improve in your performance, normally (with PEDs)…

Rafa: Well, evidently there are sports in which it probably could affect more than in others, (smiling) the truth is I swear I have no idea how it works, this issue… but in tennis, in football, I think that in sports in which… precision stuff comes into play, of talent in play, I think that doping has much less sense.

 

[Crisstti]

Q: You have won RG 6 times, I’ve always heard you speak wonders of this tournament, of the city in which it’s played, of it’s country, of France, why is there that certain hostility towards a player who has accomplished what you have?.

Rafa: (around 5:07) Well, the truth is I always speak well of all the places, because wherever I go, practically everywhere, they treat me wonderfully. And evidently where I feel the best is here, in Spain, but everywhere I go people are wonderful to me, and in France, I don’t want to say something that is not true, ehhh, and I go through the streets in France and the truth is I feel very loved, people always stop me (in the street), people pay a lot of attention to me, people support me, and the truth is I feel loved by the French people. Then, it is true that when I pl… when I enter a court, when I go out to play, it’s probably the tournament in the world where they support, they support me less than in other places…

Q: USA, England.

Rafa: Exactly. But well, it’s understandable as well, I understand as well that we Spaniards have been for many years winning both their “queen” competitions, the tour and RG, and they might feel like seeing others winning, or to see their own (winning), but…

Q: Yes, but…

Rafa: … it’s a free world…

Q: … years ago I would see Borg winning, and he was going for his sixth, and people supported him. It’s true, that he was from the North, that he was Swedish, and that you are from the South.

Rafa: (around 6:14) Yes, at the end of the day we are a neighbouring country. And well, it’s what it is, there’s no need to say much else (laughs).

Q: Hey, are you in favour of the lawsuit that the Spanish Tennis Federation is going to file, of would you prefer for this to end?.

Rafa: Evidently… I would like that the media and… we would stop giving them more publicity. At the end of the day I think it’s what they want. I think that the campaign… not against me in any case, but that I’m affected by, against Spanish sport… one cannot, because one is on TV, because one has a pen, write… one cannot accuse, even if it is a show in jest, in theory, one cannot accuse of something, first of all, with no proof, and plus, I think can distort or change on the focus, the perception of people about all of Spanish sport and I do think this is unfair. So I agree with it (the lawsuit).

Then the questions from Twitter. Someone asks if he has seen doping in the tennis world.

Rafa: (laughs) But the thing is I haven’t seen doping anywhere. The truth is, it’s a world where all I know is what I cannot take and really, what I have to… follow, in order for it not to happen to me, no?. But in tennis, well, I played the RG final in 2005 against Mariano Puerta, who then tested positive, but it’s just that I haven’t seen anything. I just saw that he almost beat me, but well.

Then someone writing that they want him to be the standard bearer of Spain in the Olympic Games. Rafa says he would love to, he would be honoured, but that it isn’t up to him.

Then they joke about the journalist not having asked him about Federer nor Djokovic.

 

[Mustard]

It's ironic that Nadal gets these accusations levelled against him when it's Nadal who is the only man to have played against someone in a major final who tested positive for a banned substance in that very match. Nadal still won, but was pushed to the limit, closer than the scoreline suggests.

 

[Rozroz]

again, seem honest and really innocent.
i'll be really really shocked if it's all lies.
the other alternative is that he doesn't know what they give him,
and he's not aware that he's doping...

 

[Lsmkenpo]

again, seem honest and really innocent.
i'll be really really shocked if it's all lies.
the other alternative is that he doesn't know what they give him,
and he's not aware that he's doping...

He also sounds honest and innocent when he says his favorite car is a Kia, or
when he talks about a racquet or string he doesn't use to the public, he and all other pros have no problem deceiving the public for monetary gains. This could be just another example. Everyone lies, including Nadal.

What do you people expect him to say when interviewed?

"I use very, very, very, much hooman growth hormone and teestosteerone before clay season, No? This is best to use, they no test for these, No? I take dees, I will try my best, tank you very much."

 

[Sentinel]

again, seem honest and really innocent.
i'll be really really shocked if it's all lies.
the other alternative is that he doesn't know what they give him,
and he's not aware that he's doping...

I am not saying he takes anything, but I don't think it would be possible for any athlete at his level playing for several years to be unaware -- most of these things are intravenous, there are schedules and cycles. It's not something casually slipped into your cornflakes once a week.

One does read medicine labels ... would they for several years keep bringing unmarked vials, and tablets that have had wrappers removed. I'd be suspicious if my coach/doc did that.

If I wanted to be clean, i'd be very suspicious of anything being administered to me. I'd demand to see labels etc.

 

[cc0509]

I am not saying he takes anything, but I don't think it would be possible for any athlete at his level playing for several years to be unaware -- most of these things are intravenous, there are schedules and cycles. It's not something casually slipped into your cornflakes once a week.

Of all of the dumb arguments I have read on this forum and believe me there have been a lot of them, the argument that a pro athlete would be unaware of any drug taking has to be one of the loopiest. :shock:

 

[Rjtennis]

The truth is that someone who has the resources Rafa does could get away with doping if he wanted to. Atheletes and doctors are coming up with ways to beat the testing system every day and would bet it is happens in tennis. Tennis players could benefit immensely from concotions that help with endurance and drugs used to help people avoid injury.

 

[Rozroz]

i didn't say he could be unaware as a logical reality.
it just seems so ridiculous that IF he dopes,
then sitting in interviews and lying while he knows that they might be
closing in on him as an international super athlete (and now a proven underwear model :twisted without breaking apart is just CRAZY.
it's truly could be the ultimate shame on tennis.
well maybe i'm naive.

 

[Slice&Smash]

i didn't say he could be unaware as a logical reality.
it just seems so ridiculous that IF he dopes,
then sitting in interviews and lying while he knows that they might be
closing in on him as an international super athlete (and now a proven underwear model :twisted without breaking apart is just CRAZY.
it's truly could be the ultimate shame on tennis.
well maybe i'm naive.

I'm a little surprised about this interview as well.

He claims that there has been an overreaction to the C+ sketch, yet here he on live TV talking about it and PEDs. Some of his arguments sound defensive and unrealistic.

What's the point?

 

[Rozroz]

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[Bartelby]

What exactly is it about Nadal, as opposed to Federer, that makes people feel entitled to make ridiculous allegations?

He's Spanish?

Has a bigger bicep?

What???

 

[Rozroz]

What exactly is it about Nadal, as opposed to Federer, that makes people feel entitled to make ridiculous allegations?

He's Spanish?

Has a bigger bicep?

What???

i don't really care.
if they catch all of them (yes including Federer), it will do the sport justice.
it's just that Nadal is on the radar now more than anyone else,
so obviously he's getting some attention. if tomorrow they point out Fed,
i'll feel the same.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Q: And why all of this?, where does it start, why does it start?.

Rafa: (around 2:46) I think it mainly starts for wanting to give an explanation… to winning, and the explanation to triumphing, to winning, is no other than, first, a generation, a series of generations together, who have triumphed, there’s always some luck that affects that, but then many other things must have been well done in order for this to happen, no?, and I think that mainly it’s effort, spirit of self-improvement, and the desire to be there, and the daily work, all of that is vital, the daily humility to want to be better, to work hard. And from the neighbouring country, maybe they want to give an explanation to success, no?.

It is a good explanation from Rafa. Professional athletes in other countries are not willing to do all the said things, in order to achieve results. :roll:

The interviewer asks about Noah, saying he was the first one to come out with this (notice Rafa’s angry face there, lol).

Rafa: I think that’s intolerable, especially coming from whom it’s coming. Becaue that people who don’t know about sport say this, well at the end they don’t have all the information, but people who are inside the world of sport, who know how professionalized the issue of the anti-doping control is, no elite athlete can be competing today if he’s not clean. I, this far in the year, have been tested already 3 or 4 times, it’s impossible to cheat… first, I personally don’t understand sport with cheating, I understand that one gets until where one is capable of…

Oh, really, Rafa?

Q: But you wouldn’t either improve in your performance, normally (with PEDs)…

Rafa: Well, evidently there are sports in which it probably could affect more than in others, (smiling) the truth is I swear I have no idea how it works, this issue… but in tennis, in football, I think that in sports in which… precision stuff comes into play, of talent in play, I think that doping has much less sense.

Oh, good God! We have an expert in football here.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Q: USA, England.

Rafa: Exactly. But well, it’s understandable as well, I understand as well that we Spaniards have been for many years winning both their “queen” competitions, the tour and RG, and they might feel like seeing others winning, or to see their own (winning), but….

I know Rafa is not sports historian, but there were many multiple Tour champions, who were not hated. Including spanish riders. Same goes for the French Open. It is a hollow explanation (and he knows it, as seen by his reaction to the Borg question)

Rafa: (laughs) But the thing is I haven’t seen doping anywhere. The truth is, it’s a world where all I know is what I cannot take and really, what I have to… follow, in order for it not to happen to me, no?. But in tennis, well, I played the RG final in 2005 against Mariano Puerta, who then tested positive, but it’s just that I haven’t seen anything. I just saw that he almost beat me, but well

You have to be VERY naive, to have such a point of view on this matter. And I don't believe Nadal is......

 

[Tennis_Hands]

It's ironic that Nadal gets these accusations levelled against him when it's Nadal who is the only man to have played against someone in a major final who tested positive for a banned substance in that very match. Nadal still won, but was pushed to the limit, closer than the scoreline suggests.

What is ironic about that?

 

[Tennis_Hands]

What exactly is it about Nadal, as opposed to Federer, that makes people feel entitled to make ridiculous allegations?

He's Spanish?

Has a bigger bicep?

What???

The way he wins.

 

[CMM]

Starting yet another thread on this topic was a really smart idea.

2 threads actually.

 

[vernonbc]

Starting yet another thread on this topic was a really smart idea.

2 threads actually.

An honest, intelligent interview directly from Rafa is a good thing. It beats most of the nonsensical comments that are posted on this forum. I get where you're coming from CMM, but unfortunately the subject is not going to go away just because more rational people refrain from posting anything about it.

He claims that there has been an overreaction to the C+ sketch, yet here he on live TV talking about it and PEDs. Some of his arguments sound defensive and unrealistic.

Rafa is such a huge and beloved public figure in Spain, there was a real storm brewing about the stupid cartoons. Even the king of Spain was indignant about them as the media duly reported from the event where royalty honoured the Davis Cup winners.

I'm sure they felt that Rafa could tamp down some of the hysteria by telling the public to calm down, that he didn't think Spain should invade France over it. /hyperbole

 

[Slice&Smash]

What exactly is it about Nadal, as opposed to Federer, that makes people feel entitled to make ridiculous allegations?

He's Spanish?

Has a bigger bicep?

What???

It must be his car!!!

Any other Range Rover would immediately break down if you pee inside the fuel tank.

 

[Bartelby]

So much emotion when it comes to Nadal - truly bizarre!

 

[Raiden]

I still find it ridiculous that a COMEDY skit singlehandedly generated an international incident involving two Western countries.

 

[Bartelby]

Remember the cartoons insulting the prophet?

There will be a war soon in the ME over falsified documents and reports as there was in the past.

Nothing really surprising.

 

[Bjorn99]

I think he is a major user of steroids, but AGAIN, with the estrogen effect of plastic, he is doing his body a big favour by doing so. Heck, we all could use a big increase in testosterone these days.

Men, nowadays, act, think, and behave much like women. There is some benefit to that, women can relate to them a lot better, but when it comes time to man up, most men are sorely lacking. And its not their fault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o03iMrL_G2w

 

[Slice&Smash]

I think he is a major user of steroids, but AGAIN, with the estrogen effect of plastic, he is doing his body a big favour by doing so. Heck, we all could use a big increase in testosterone these days.

Men, nowadays, act, think, and behave much like women. There is some benefit to that, women can relate to them a lot better, but when it comes time to man up, most men are sorely lacking. And its not their fault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o03iMrL_G2w

Really???

 

[Slice&Smash]

Remember the cartoons insulting the prophet?

There will be a war soon in the ME over falsified documents and reports as there was in the past.

Nothing really surprising.

Are you suggesting the Spaniards are insecure about their sporting achievements as mush as the ME guys are about their religion?

 

[Bjorn99]

Really???

Are u the resident troll/agent? Every board has one. Some have swarms. To slam a snippet of truth whenever the pom poms and flag waving are over?

 

[Crisstti]

What exactly is it about Nadal, as opposed to Federer, that makes people feel entitled to make ridiculous allegations?

He's Spanish?

Has a bigger bicep?

What???

Maybe he's too much of a nice guy. That can bring out certain things in some people. Or maybe it's just the delusional Federer fans.

I know Rafa is not sports historian, but there were many multiple Tour champions, who were not hated. Including spanish riders. Same goes for the French Open. It is a hollow explanation (and he knows it, as seen by his reaction to the Borg question)

You have to be VERY naive, to have such a point of view on this matter. And I don't believe Nadal is......

His explanation still points to him being Spanish and Borg Swedish though.

BTW, that wasn't a point of view but him stating a fact: that he didn't see Puerta doping in RG 2005.

Starting yet another thread on this topic was a really smart idea.

2 threads actually.

Yep, I do think that with all the "Nadal is doping" threads, we could use some variety about it (you know, something in favour of Rafa, for a change).

 

[Sentinel]

Starting yet another thread on this topic was a really smart idea.

Thanks, I'll go start another one right away.

 

[merlinpinpin]

BTW, that wasn't a point of view but him stating a fact: that he didn't see Puerta doping in RG 2005.

As you seem to love such nitpicking, Crisstti, how do you know that this is a *fact*?

 

[sureshs]

Of all of the dumb arguments I have read on this forum and believe me there have been a lot of them, the argument that a pro athlete would be unaware of any drug taking has to be one of the loopiest. :shock:

No, the dumbest argument is that Nadal dopes, when there is no evidence. All other so-called arguments are bogus. A guy can be completely focused on tennis and have no knowledge of what is going on in cycling. Only people who don't achieve anything keep in touch with all the gossip around the world.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

No, the dumbest argument is that Nadal dopes, when there is no evidence. All other so-called arguments are bogus. A guy can be completely focused on tennis and have no knowledge of what is going on in cycling. Only people who don't achieve anything keep in touch with all the gossip around the world.

You might be right on that one. He defended Contador, regardless of the fact, that Contador was proven guilty. Clearly, he is not interested in the facts.

Whether he dopes or not is a speculation (until someone proves that, of course), but, as any hypothesis, could be argued upon or further researched.

@suresh

Edit: And you are qualified to do that assumption because ....?

 

[sureshs]

You might be right on that one. He defended Contador, regardless of the fact, that Contador was proven guilty. Clearly, he is not interested in the facts.

Whether he dopes or not is a speculation (until someone proves that, of course), but, as any hypothesis, could be argued upon or further researched.

No one cares about your research since you cannot do any.

 

[jackson vile]

Really???

You are either a women or a man with zero testosterone LOL

Get educated dude!

 

[AM95]

It's ironic that Nadal gets these accusations levelled against him when it's Nadal who is the only man to have played against someone in a major final who tested positive for a banned substance in that very match. Nadal still won, but was pushed to the limit, closer than the scoreline suggests.

what are you talking about...?

 

[Mustard]

what are you talking about...?

I'm talking about how Nadal is the only player to have played against someone who tested positive for a banned substance in a major final, i.e. against Mariano Puerta in the 2005 French Open final, where Puerta tested positive for etilefrine, a cardiac stimulant. It was publicly revealed in December 2005.

 

[Crisstti]

As you seem to love such nitpicking, Crisstti, how do you know that this is a *fact*?

Reading skills?

That is what Rafa is doing there, stating a fact. Not an opinion nor anything. He's simply saying that he did not see Mariano Puerta dope, despite the fact that Puerta tested positive (in answer to a question if he had seen doping in tennis).

No, the dumbest argument is that Nadal dopes, when there is no evidence. All other so-called arguments are bogus. A guy can be completely focused on tennis and have no knowledge of what is going on in cycling. Only people who don't achieve anything keep in touch with all the gossip around the world.

This "arguments" and speculations about Rafa remind me of the kind of logic followed by the "Paul (McCartney) is dead" folks. "Look, he's the only one who has a red background on the Let It Be cover. It must mean he's dead!!!".

You might be right on that one. He defended Contador, regardless of the fact, that Contador was proven guilty. Clearly, he is not interested in the facts.

The evidence was hardly conclusive. There might still be an appeal.

 

[Bartelby]

So the Nadal drugs story is kind of a conspiracy theory to explain away the successes that some would prefer not to have happened.

As somone who has watched Fed go down too often to Nadal I can appreciate the emotion, but not its trajectory.

 

[Mike Sams]

I am not saying he takes anything, but I don't think it would be possible for any athlete at his level playing for several years to be unaware -- most of these things are intravenous, there are schedules and cycles. It's not something casually slipped into your cornflakes once a week.

One does read medicine labels ... would they for several years keep bringing unmarked vials, and tablets that have had wrappers removed. I'd be suspicious if my coach/doc did that.

If I wanted to be clean, i'd be very suspicious of anything being administered to me. I'd demand to see labels etc.

Boxers Felix Trinidad and Antonio Margarito didn't know their hands were being wrapped illegally either. Playing the ignorance card always helps. :lol:

 

[Sentinel]

No, the dumbest argument is that Nadal dopes, when there is no evidence. All other so-called arguments are bogus. A guy can be completely focused on tennis and have no knowledge of what is going on in cycling. Only people who don't achieve anything keep in touch with all the gossip around the world.

Comprehension issues ?

The person above was responding to my post about people saying they are unaware about themselves being doped by their coaches/Federations/doctors.

Not about other sports.

I might add that at lower levels doping is not much of a secret, at least not where I am. It was quite openly done. You could see vials and syringes at National Camps and the local chemist shops were full of steroids and admitting where they were going. Athletes themselves would be talking about it (abt themselves) among fellow trainers and competitors, so it's not really possible to be unaware of these things in your own sport.

 

[Sentinel]

Boxers Felix Trinidad and Antonio Margarito didn't know their hands were being wrapped illegally either. Playing the ignorance card always helps. :lol:

I haven;t heard of them since i don't follow boxing, but innocence is the first line people take when caught. Later it becomes accidental use.

I think, not sure though, anyone who takes steroids (I don't know about other kinds of PEDs) over a period of time will know the effect on their body, and again when they stop taking it. That's my understanding from case studies I've read. So ignorance is bit hard to believe.

 

[cc0509]

No, the dumbest argument is that Nadal dopes, when there is no evidence. All other so-called arguments are bogus. A guy can be completely focused on tennis and have no knowledge of what is going on in cycling. Only people who don't achieve anything keep in touch with all the gossip around the world.

I was talking about the point that was brought up that maybe Nadal would be doped by his handlers and not be aware of it. Try and follow a conversation!

Plus LOL that a pro athlete would not be aware of doping in other sports. That is just so dumb it is not even funny.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

The evidence was hardly conclusive. There might still be an appeal.

The evidence was conclusive enough to convict Contador. In fact, had he not been one of the best cyclists of his generation (if not the best) and, respectively, such an asset to his sport and UCI, the punishment would have been severe, I believe. Are you familiar with the case? CAS accepted very Solomonic approach to not give preference to the most probable scenario in his situation, namely, blood transfusion. When I read it I was absolutely sure, that that was the only way, they could punish him, which addresses the leaked positive and ,at the same time, spare him the tag, that have received cyclists like Valverde, Vinokurov and Basso.

By the way, our fellow poster suresh was saying, that Nadal is a professional, who hardly have the time to check what is going on in other sports. I am not sure, that your argument, that the decision is hardly conclusive, applies, since he should have familiarized himself with the whole case (and according to suresh, who you seem to agree with, he doesn't have the time or will to do that). Oh, and, Contador could only appeal on the basis of procedural errors in the case.

On the other two remarks from your previous answer to me.

Nadal said, that he is from neighbouring country, yes, but, the problem is, he does not address the issue at hand - he is not very well accepted in France, and there are numerous champions (including spaniards) that did not receive such a treatment. It is not about him and Borg. His explanation, why Borg was well accepted and he is not is weak.

On the other remark. In that interview Nadal said "But the thing is I haven’t seen doping anywhere. The truth is, it’s a world where all I know is what I cannot take and really, what I have to… follow, in order for it not to happen to me, no?. "

I said it that a person must be very naive to have such a point of view on the matter. You said that he is merely stating the fact, that he has not seen Puerta doping and that is not an opinion.

But:

He didn't just say, that he didn't see Puerta doping, did he? He should have done that, if he was to refrain from expanding the answer to the question to his general beliefs on doping. I was referring to the idea (very clearly presented in his words) that someone has to see someone doping to believe that he is doping. That is absurd.

 

[merlinpinpin]

That is what Rafa is doing there, stating a fact. Not an opinion nor anything. He's simply saying that he did not see Mariano Puerta dope, despite the fact that Puerta tested positive (in answer to a question if he had seen doping in tennis).

No. This is anything but a fact. You just wrote it, Nadal *said* he didn't see Puera dope, that doesn't make it a fact or the truth, it's just what he wants to tell us.

If you say that what people like Fuentes or his wife say has no value, then you have to accept the fact that what Rafa says has no value either. Can't have both, I'm afraid...

(I don't believe he saw anything, though--Puerta would have to be tremendously stupid to juice in the locker room.)

 

[merlinpinpin]

I'm talking about how Nadal is the only player to have played against someone who tested positive for a banned substance in a major final, i.e. against Mariano Puerta in the 2005 French Open final, where Puerta tested positive for etilefrine, a cardiac stimulant. It was publicly revealed in December 2005.

This is actually detrimental to him, you know. A teenager outlasting (and by a fair margin, too, Puerta was basically done after the first set) a guy who was later found to be doping is bound to raise a few suspicions.

 

[djokovic2008]

He also sounds honest and innocent when he says his favorite car is a Kia, or
when he talks about a racquet or string he doesn't use to the public, he and all other pros have no problem deceiving the public for monetary gains. This could be just another example. Everyone lies, including Nadal.

What do you people expect him to say when interviewed?

"I use very, very, very, much hooman growth hormone and teestosteerone before clay season, No? This is best to use, they no test for these, No? I take dees, I will try my best, tank you very much."

He's been tested THREE TIMES this year already, seriously you seem obsessed, you need to let this die, as many of your arguments have no substance or proof.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

So the Nadal drugs story is kind of a conspiracy theory to explain away the successes that some would prefer not to have happened.

More like that Nadal has done too many things, to draw attention to himself, and not in a very good way. Like, for example, doing the following things:

- saying that doping test rules are too demanding
- defending other athletes, that were convicted of doping
- saying that doping testing in tennis is very good
- saying that professional athletes cannot dope, since there are numerous tests

There are a couple of other things, but those four are the basis, why Nadal is being mentioned, when the word doping is being mentioned.

I get it, he must remain positive, that doping is an exception, rather than a rule (although I personally don't believe that), but some of his actions/words contradict that idea as well. It is a mess.

 

[djokovic2008]

I remember Nalbandian talking about how scared he is to let anyone he doesn't know or trust to prepare his food even when he goes out because of how careful you have to be. One mistake and career over he said its just not worth it.

 

[merlinpinpin]

I get it, he must remain positive, that doping is an exception, rather than a rule (although I personally don't believe that), but some of his actions/words contradict that idea as well. It is a mess.

Actually, aren't these guys supposed to stay negative during their whole career?

 

[Rozroz]

He's been tested THREE TIMES this year already, seriously you seem obsessed, you need to let this die, as many of your arguments have no substance or proof.

when they are cleverly being tested while they're off the peds,
or have ways to conceal different elements, 3 times is not a big deal
(not saying that it's a fact, only to take it into consideration).