Nadal is ahead of Federer in Slams adjusted by difficulty

I will never get over this .35 difference. This has ruined my week.

Makes sense RAFA is higher since he had to deal with Fed though? Fed can't play himself???

Thanks for clearing this up Lew.
RAFA had to deal with a Fraud, but a healthy one. Fraud had to deal with an injured person who plays tennis LOL.

So it is no wonder there is a small .35 edge for the humble warrior.
 
RAFA had to deal with a Fraud, but a healthy one. Fraud had to deal with an injured person who plays tennis LOL.

So it is no wonder there is a small .35 edge for the humble warrior.
Gap would have been much larger for RAFA if Federer didn't get annoyed by this and pretend he had mono, a bad back, a thigh injury, "fell giving his kids a bath", etc.
 

EasyGoing

Professional
This is absolutely ridiculous. 19,78? Rafa has won all of his slams injured AND missed 15 slams because he was, well, el más injurísimo (*spelling). This puts him at 34,78 at least, and that is if UTS (“U know I am right tennis Serbia” website) even included the injury severity in their “Relative Title Difficulty Factor”.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
What is with many Djoker fans trying to hide their misery with all this fake Nadal support and Co GOAT narrative ??

Just imagine if Novak had beaten Rafa. The count would have been 16-17 with 2 Nole slams and we would have been hearing how Nadal has been passed over .

Glad Nadal won and the gap is 18-15 , which is substantial
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
What is with many Djoker fans trying to hide their misery with all this fake Nadal support and Co GOAT narrative ??

Just imagine if Novak had beaten Rafa. The count would have been 16-17 with 2 Nole slams and we would have been hearing how Nadal has been passed over .

Glad Nadal won and the gap is 18-15 , which is substantial
Nadal is not overrated due to weak era and pretty game, so he has my simpathy.

I still prefer Djokovic over him though.
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
This is meaningless. What do they mean with "adjusted for difficulty"? Does it have to do with the ranking of their opponents?
  • Title Difficulty - Factor of difficulty to win the title compared to a difficulty for an average title winner to win an average tournament event of the same tournament level (calculation steps: first, probabilities to win the title for an average title winner of the same tournament level are calculated based on average Elo Ratings of the title winners as well as Elo Ratings of the opponents the actual winner has faced (P = 1 / (1 + 10 ^ ((AvgWinnerElo - ActualOpponentElo) / 400)); second, difficulty to win the title is calculated as the sum of inverse probabilities from the first step; third, title difficulty is normalized so that the average difficulty of the same tournament level is 1). Example: Difficulty Factor of 1.315 means that a title was 31.5% harder to win compared to an average title of the same tournament level.
 

Lew II

Hall of Fame
Wow Stan wawrinka above rod laver and ken rosewall. Never saw that coming
It's open era and slams only.

Laver did much better than Wawrinka in the OE if you add other tournaments which were the "true majors" at the time, of course.
 
  • Title Difficulty - Factor of difficulty to win the title compared to a difficulty for an average title winner to win an average tournament event of the same tournament level (calculation steps: first, probabilities to win the title for an average title winner of the same tournament level are calculated based on average Elo Ratings of the title winners as well as Elo Ratings of the opponents the actual winner has faced (P = 1 / (1 + 10 ^ ((AvgWinnerElo - ActualOpponentElo) / 400)); second, difficulty to win the title is calculated as the sum of inverse probabilities from the first step; third, title difficulty is normalized so that the average difficulty of the same tournament level is 1). Example: Difficulty Factor of 1.315 means that a title was 31.5% harder to win compared to an average title of the same tournament level.

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KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
It's simply not a coincidence that Roger won 12/18 slams before the emergence of Djokodal and then from age 27 on he won 8/46. We all know that Roger fattened up on a weakera.
Rafa clay competition:

Mental midget Fed who crumbles if you make him play more than 3 consecutive topspin backhands and couldn’t even reach 5 sets at RG

Djokovic who somehow managed to blow it every time and only made 5 sets one time

Pigeons Wawrinka and Thiem

Strong era king Nadal?


It’s also not coincidence Djokovic won 6/12 slams in 2014-2016 vacuum era with past prime Fed and washed up Nadal, then 3 in a row in 2018-2019 era of Anderson and Del Potro.
 

Northern

Hall of Fame
  • Title Difficulty - Factor of difficulty to win the title compared to a difficulty for an average title winner to win an average tournament event of the same tournament level (calculation steps: first, probabilities to win the title for an average title winner of the same tournament level are calculated based on average Elo Ratings of the title winners as well as Elo Ratings of the opponents the actual winner has faced (P = 1 / (1 + 10 ^ ((AvgWinnerElo - ActualOpponentElo) / 400)); second, difficulty to win the title is calculated as the sum of inverse probabilities from the first step; third, title difficulty is normalized so that the average difficulty of the same tournament level is 1). Example: Difficulty Factor of 1.315 means that a title was 31.5% harder to win compared to an average title of the same tournament level.
Meh. Obviously it is not difficult for Nadal to win the FO.
 

Krish0608

Hall of Fame
It's simply not a coincidence that Roger won 12/18 slams before the emergence of Djokodal and then from age 27 on he won 8/46. We all know that Roger fattened up on a weakera.
As do we all know that Nadal is clay GOAT. On non clay surfaces, he's not even a tier 2 great. And thats quite a damning stat for a so-called GOAT candidate. A superhuman clay record with a mediocre non-clay record does not make you GOAT, it makes you GCOAT.
 

VaporDude95

Banned
But we already knew this... But thanks for proving it statistically
Hahahaha

You guys are tragic. This proves nothing and it’s fundamentally flawed in its analysis.

Let’s analyse the gifting of slams through cupcake draws shall we? Oh, Nadal is the only one to have won a slam by not having to beat anyone inside the top 25? Colour me shocked!

But RAFA made it through Rublev. What a warrior!
 
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VaporDude95

Banned
As do we all know that Nadal is clay GOAT. On non clay surfaces, he's not even a tier 2 great. And thats quite a damning stat for a so-called GOAT candidate. A superhuman clay record with a mediocre non-clay record does not make you GOAT, it makes you GCOAT.
Wawrinka has 33% of nadals USO count, and Wawrinka has the same amount of AOs that Nadal does.

Nadal is basically a (more boring) Spanish Wawrinka outside of clay.
 
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