Nadal is Djokovic and Federer's greatest rival
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That he was 2nd in the decade dominated by Federer and also 2nd in the decade dominated by Djokovic.
Therefore, he was their greatest rival.
Therefore, he was their greatest rival.
Tennis_Freak99
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Nadal_King
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It tells longevity of Rafa is second to none
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Nadal was the first in the decade dominated by Nadal (2006-2015). Nadal won 13 Slams in 2006-2015, more than any other male tennis player in that decade.Slay
P. S.: a decade is any period of ten years.
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Tenacity
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Of course anything is possible to fit ones agenda lol.
Phoenix1983
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Savage post.
How did Nadal actually dominate 2014 and 2015?
The Blond Blur
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Well, he did win the most during the stronk era 2007-2013. For that reason, I have no choice but to grant him BOAT status. So be it.
Enceladus
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Obviously, @Nole Slam writes about calendar decades, ie the 2000s (2000-2009) and 2010s (2010-2019) decades.
SecondToNone
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More than 50 matches played:
Djokovic - Nadal
Djokovic - Federer
And Djokovic leads both H2H.
Djokovic - Nadal
Djokovic - Federer
And Djokovic leads both H2H.
kevaninho
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Only overtaking both in the H2H once they were past their primes.
Just like he should do....
ForehandRF
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I think that Nadal rising to the occasion and doing damage to the greatest hardcourters Djokovic and Federer, at the HC slams, in the way they couldn't replicate on clay against him, it's one of the most important aspects that strengthen his GOAT credentials.
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Nadal usurped Federer AND managed to get back on top of the game after Djokovic had his peaks. Despite coming up against both of them in their prime, he is joint slam leader. It's one of the reasons I call him GOAT.
SecondToNone
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Not beating Djokovic and being past their primes are two different things.
Then this would make Djokovic the greatest rival hmm
BeatlesFan
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And since 2015? 7-1 for Gramps, sorry to tell you, mate. (and yes, it is 7-1, not 6-2 like you claimed last year).
fixed it for ya pal
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Yugram
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It’s 6-1 and not 8-1 like you wish it was. 1 win in 2015, 4 in 17 and 1 in 19.And since 2015? 7-1 for Gramps, sorry to tell you, mate. (and yes, it is 7-1, not 6-2 like you claimed last year).
Let’s count together, it’s really simple:
1 (one, uno) + 4 (four, cuatro) + 1 (one, uno) = ?
almost like in 2011, like there was no tomorrow
and if you count all the matches where Nadal didn't show up while Rogerio was waiting?
Sunny014
Legend
It tells us that Rafa is the eternal BETA, he was happy being second to the alpha Federer in the 00s and then second to the Omega Djokovic 2010s.
Federer is the Alpha (pro establishment)
Djokovic is the Omega (anti establishment and a challenger equally powerful to the Alpha)
Nadal is the Beta (just 200 weeks at 1 as a caretaker in a transitional phase, 1 laureus award, 0 WTF, 65% slams on a turf which has just 25% slams in an year = 1 trick pony)
Federer is the Alpha (pro establishment)
Djokovic is the Omega (anti establishment and a challenger equally powerful to the Alpha)
Nadal is the Beta (just 200 weeks at 1 as a caretaker in a transitional phase, 1 laureus award, 0 WTF, 65% slams on a turf which has just 25% slams in an year = 1 trick pony)
This definitely makes Djokovic the champion of champions!
Nadal is the greatest rival of BOTH of his contemporaries.
So,
I ask you,
What does this tell us?
it tells us that he is the best top 10 player, with the consecutive 800+ weeks in top 10
an achievement that probably won't be beaten by the likes of A Zverev, Berrettini, Tsitsipas, Agut, Goffin
but unfortunately not the best #1, which is the goal in any sport
so, ladies and gentlemen, let's award the best top 10 player award right where it belongs, to the ombeelibable Rafa!
He is #2Nadal is the greatest rival of BOTH of his contemporaries.
So,
I ask you,
What does this tell us?
Devastating soul shattering
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Beckerserve
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Nadal has owned Djokovic their whole career. 20-18. Federer era. Then Nadal era. Slay.
Beckerserve
Legend
Djokovic is the third wheel. Slay.Nadal is the greatest rival of BOTH of his contemporaries.
So,
I ask you,
What does this tell us?
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Deleted member 748597
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A confession
Every time I watch a match with Fedr in it I barrack for the other guy. No matter who he is. Fedr is just a biatch. On the other side every time Nadl plays I want him to win as long as Djok is still in the game. If he isn't then Nadl must go down. If he is, I want Nadl to be in the final with Djok. Why? It's simple. If Djok wins it means he won legit. If he loses, well he lost to Nadl, so it is OK either way. But the orgasm comes at 40-15 on a MP if he plays Fedr in a final. Or when he plays Nadl like Dubai 16 in the final.
Otherwise GO STAN!
Every time I watch a match with Fedr in it I barrack for the other guy. No matter who he is. Fedr is just a biatch. On the other side every time Nadl plays I want him to win as long as Djok is still in the game. If he isn't then Nadl must go down. If he is, I want Nadl to be in the final with Djok. Why? It's simple. If Djok wins it means he won legit. If he loses, well he lost to Nadl, so it is OK either way. But the orgasm comes at 40-15 on a MP if he plays Fedr in a final. Or when he plays Nadl like Dubai 16 in the final.
Otherwise GO STAN!
TripleATeam
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What does hidden mean here?
Yugram
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US Open Avoiderer
TripleATeam
G.O.A.T.
Ah... well, can't the same case be made for Nadal not reaching Federer at slams? What counts as avoiding?
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Nadal has a winning record over Federer at the AO.
Nadal has a winning record over Djokovic at the USO.
They are the 2 best hardcourt players ever (in terms of hardcourt slams), and Nadal has a winning record over both, despite being known more for clay!
Nadal has a winning record over Djokovic at the USO.
They are the 2 best hardcourt players ever (in terms of hardcourt slams), and Nadal has a winning record over both, despite being known more for clay!
BauerAlmeida
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Nadal is ONE year older. ONE.
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mike danny
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You mean younger.
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
Yeah, my bad. Meant Nadal is one year older.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
I mean, you can make this statement about any of the big 3, like a revolving wheel
Texas Tennis Fan
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That he is a clay court specialist in an age when no one else is so he gets to vulture clay tournaments at a high rate? Just guessing this is what you meantNadal is the greatest rival of BOTH of his contemporaries.
So,
I ask you,
What does this tell us?
MadariKatu
Hall of Fame
Nadal hasn't been as long at #1, but has been longer than both at #2, so when he wasn't leading the rankings, he had mostly just one guy ahead of him, first Federer and then Djokovic. Their peaks did not overlap. Nadal's peak overlapped with both of them.
If we take a period of, say, 4 years for peak duration, Federer's peak would be 2004-2009, Djokovic's 2011-2015. Nadal peaked earlier on grass than on hard, but you could say he peaked between 2007/8 and 2011/12. His best year slam-wise was 2010, which if you take those years for peak Fed and Novak, is the one year he had which was both, his very peak, and the best on none other direct rival. Also won the clay slam that year; only time he did. He was injured in 2009 and had to retire in the 2010 AO, but maybe could have had a shot at the cygs.
If we take a period of, say, 4 years for peak duration, Federer's peak would be 2004-2009, Djokovic's 2011-2015. Nadal peaked earlier on grass than on hard, but you could say he peaked between 2007/8 and 2011/12. His best year slam-wise was 2010, which if you take those years for peak Fed and Novak, is the one year he had which was both, his very peak, and the best on none other direct rival. Also won the clay slam that year; only time he did. He was injured in 2009 and had to retire in the 2010 AO, but maybe could have had a shot at the cygs.
Then it should be 2001-2010 and 2011-2020; there was no year 0.
Djokovic is Federer's greatest rival, obviously! Because he defeated Federer 3 times, in very dramatic fashion, on the world's grandest, and Federer's favorite, stage, Wimbledon!
Djokovic is also Nadal's greatest rival, because he inflicted much more damage on Nadal than anyone else!
Djokovic is also Nadal's greatest rival, because he inflicted much more damage on Nadal than anyone else!
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