Nadal is finished and should retire

Diehard

Professional
#1
I am a huge Nadal fan, have been ever since i first saw him in 2004 before he was famous. Loved his attitude and the way every point was his last. We will never see his like again, and to me he is the greatest tennis player i have seen, although i expect Djookovic to assume that mantle in about 12 months but still, Rafa has had a career that is more than he could have dreamed of.

But his fans and the man himself need to now face reality. He is finished, his game is now obsolete as he is too slow in his movement to carry it off so now his shots are like hitting practice for opponents. Unlike the other Icon of the past decade, Federer, Nadal does not have the god given talent to mask his physical decline as his whole game was built around the physical edge he had over opponents. Even Federer though gets exposed against the other true great of the past decade, Djokovic. But Federer has the talent still to take care of the less gifted players, but Nadal does not and as such, he should announce his retirement at this years FO.

Anyone who thinks Nadal has a chance of winning the FO needs to take the blindfold off. Forget Djokovic, Nadal wont compete with any of the top 10, they will simply hit him off the court. Federer is suffering at the hands of Djokovic but he isnt embarrrassing himself at all, Nadal is and it is trajic to see.

His entourage is his biggest problem...they make alot of money off him so clearly they wont be telling him the brutal truth, which is that he is finished as a world class major winning tennis player, or even Masters 1000.
 
#4
I prefer him to distribute all the money he made through his carrer to his fans.
I think they will appreciate more (and then I will became a fan too)
This or the retirement of some obnoxious fans who in their arrogance thinks they know what a pro player, which is nothing more than a stranger that they know nearly nothing about, should do with his life.
 
#8
Mabye, but he is certainly good enough to hang around. That isn't easy for guys who tasted the top, but why not play tennis for a while longer. Who gives a damn if you aren't the king. You are still making a living playing a game, competing. Look at Hewitt...made his last GS final a decade ago...retired a month ago. That's a guy who loves to compete right there.
 
#10
I would't even ask for sauce for my breakfast burritos if Rafa holds the machine off one more time. It's all I can ask for lol.
From what I've seen of Nadal so far this year babe, that would take one extraordinary performance from him. Novak won't ever win RG, but I'm not sure I see Rafa being the one to take him out again.
 
#11
he is still world no5 rank, no need to float off into the Spanish sunset just yet.

things would get tricky though, in terms of seeding/tourney play, if he fell out of the top 8.
 
#14
From what I've seen of Nadal so far this year babe, that would take one extraordinary performance from him. Novak won't ever win RG, but I'm not sure I see Rafa being the one to take him out again.
You better keep expectations low on purpose just to make the victory mean something :p I mean, if you thought him winning was a lock (and it is) then what would you even have this year to look forward to or care about?
 
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#15
You better keep expectations low on purpose just to make the victory mean something :p I mean, if you thought him winning was a lock (and it is) then what would you even have this year to look forward to or care about?
Nah, I just don't see it happening mate and I've been saying the same thing since 2013. Naturally I'd love nothing more than for it to happen but I just don't see it.
 
#18
Lol I want him to win RG atleast once, but Novak sometimes gets unlucky or ****s it up royally towards the end..Ugh..
Yep, which is why I'm never exactly optimistic about his chances there. Some people on here see that as anti-jinxing or whatever you call it but y'all should know that I'm really a good, decent young man and would never say anything I didn't truly believe deep in my heart.
 
#21
he is still world no5 rank, no need to float off into the Spanish sunset just yet.

things would get tricky though, in terms of seeding/tourney play, if he fell out of the top 8.
He's no.5 on paper but he's not the 5th best player in world right now. His rank is being propped up by a chunk of points in the first half of the year. Barring a miracle run at RG (let's face it, he could lose in the 1st or 2nd round against someone like Verdasco again) then after July he's going to be outside the top 10 and free falling.

People said the same about Ferrero in 2004. He was still ranked in the top 5 but his form dropped off a cliff and was losing to journeymen week after week until his ranking points from 03 dropped off.
 
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Laurie

Guest
#22
I am a huge Nadal fan, have been ever since i first saw him in 2004 before he was famous. Loved his attitude and the way every point was his last. We will never see his like again, and to me he is the greatest tennis player i have seen, although i expect Djookovic to assume that mantle in about 12 months but still, Rafa has had a career that is more than he could have dreamed of.

But his fans and the man himself need to now face reality. He is finished, his game is now obsolete as he is too slow in his movement to carry it off so now his shots are like hitting practice for opponents. Unlike the other Icon of the past decade, Federer, Nadal does not have the god given talent to mask his physical decline as his whole game was built around the physical edge he had over opponents. Even Federer though gets exposed against the other true great of the past decade, Djokovic. But Federer has the talent still to take care of the less gifted players, but Nadal does not and as such, he should announce his retirement at this years FO.

Anyone who thinks Nadal has a chance of winning the FO needs to take the blindfold off. Forget Djokovic, Nadal wont compete with any of the top 10, they will simply hit him off the court. Federer is suffering at the hands of Djokovic but he isnt embarrrassing himself at all, Nadal is and it is trajic to see.

His entourage is his biggest problem...they make alot of money off him so clearly they wont be telling him the brutal truth, which is that he is finished as a world class major winning tennis player, or even Masters 1000.
I remember in 2001/2002 when Sampras was going through a slump, I always believed he could win a title, and the US Open as he was playing so well there. What Sampras had to do was get a bit of luck in winning a tight match as opposed to losing, and make some modifications to his attacking game, which he did in 02 US Open; he cut down on the chip and charge which got him into so much trouble and decided to be more patient overall. He did that by chipping and charging only at vital moments like break point opportunities, he needed to rally more like when he was younger.

That should be a lesson that you cannot write any great player off. In Nadal's case, maybe he has to be brave and take the decision to incorporate a new coach. Djokovic did that by bringing in Becker over Vaida and it paid dividends. A new coach could offer different ideas for strategy and a new training regime as he gets older. Uncle Toni has never been in this situation so they could be training the same way as always (I wouldn't know, just speculating). But that is something Nadal has to look at.

It is down to Nadal to make the changes which will extend his career.
 
#24
I remember in 2001/2002 when Sampras was going through a slump, I always believed he could win a title, and the US Open as he was playing so well there.
But Sampras always had a crushing game when he found his form, so he was able to win by just playing good tennis for one last tournament.

Nadal cannot beat other top players on pure talent. He totally depends on the physical part of the game, and if that’s gone for good, the whole player is gone.
 
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VexlanderPrime

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#29
I would't even ask for sauce for my breakfast burritos if Rafa holds the machine off one more time. It's all I can ask for lol.
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#32
He just needs a new coach. Rafa has become predictable and I believe he has lost a step. His 1st serve percentage against Thiem was pretty bad. Rafa's counter punching game has a very small margin for error. He's still an amazing athlete.The last time everyone counted him out, here went on a 31 match winning streak.
 
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VexlanderPrime

Guest
#33
Yep, which is why I'm never exactly optimistic about his chances there. Some people on here see that as anti-jinxing or whatever you call it but y'all should know that I'm really a good, decent young man and would never say anything I didn't truly believe deep in my heart.
Dis some next level trolling right here, damn!
 

swizzy

Hall of Fame
#34
i wanted nadal to semi retire and still do.. play only on clay and focus on another french or more..easier on his knees and his game.
 
#36
I think you need to calm down. 'Anymore' is a bit jumping the gun because of 1 tournament.
One tournament????
Whole 2015, AO16 first round, Doha final embarrassment of the GOAT, Buenos Aires open to a kid....
It is unfortunate to see Rafa becoming a punching bag
 
#38
Why is it a problem to some of you if the guy thinks Djokovic will not win FO, especially when considering he is a well known pessimist and that Djokovic is yet to win that title?
Some folks have a need to constantly underplay Novak, yet hear from the forum that Novak is the man to beat and that he is the odds on favorite. Some strange complex .
 
#39
Some folks have a need to constantly underplay Novak, yet hear from the forum that Novak is the man to beat and that he is the odds on favorite. Some strange complex .
Being a favorite to win and winning is not the same. I also think he will not win FO.
What I find strange is how some folks attack Djokovic fans who are saying he won't win much more, but when talking about Federer's GS record, they attack Djokovic fans even when they say that he will get close. What is the problem there?
 
#41
Being a favorite to win and winning is not the same. I also think he will not win FO.
What I find strange is how some folks attack Djokovic fans who are saying he won't win much more, but when talking about Federer's GS record, they attack Djokovic fans even when they say that he will get close. What is the problem there?
There is a difference between saying Novak is well on his way to 17 majors and saying Novak is going to fail against Berdych.
 
#42
Most seem small little pricks because Nadal will most probably reach semis of French after 5 months of tennis. Its too much to think he will win RG atm but he still may. Lost to a good player, after having matchpoint, MATCHPOINT. He has issues and still he is not AS washed up as many claim him to be.
 
#46
Put all efforts in winning the FO to annoy Djokovic one more time and then he can retire.
He already did that in 2014. He was terrible all year long but still annoyed Djokovic at the FO one more time.

You Federer fans rooting for him to win the FO should be a little more careful. He wins an FO and suddenly he decides to stick around... Then suddenly he wins another Slam and is one away from tying Roger.

I would't even ask for sauce for my breakfast burritos if Rafa holds the machine off one more time. It's all I can ask for lol.
"I don’t see anybody beating Novak Djokovic, nobody. Only if you make a robot that looks like Novak Djokovic and then Novak plays Novak. Otherwise, it’s no competition." - Goran Ivanisevic

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