Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by terribleIVAN, Sep 15, 2013.
Lol, Stakh stood no freaking chance.
What? But wasn't he the guy who beat Federer at Wimbledon?
I remember Blake being pretty fast in his prime. When you know, he made shots over the net/not outside the court.
I think that this is the important point. I'm sure there are guys purely faster than Nadal, but no one can or has hit the explosive shots on the run that Nadal could hit.
Nadal and Borg are two of the fastest players ever. Nadal does hit great on the run, as did Borg with his passing shots. Of course, these modern frames and strings on slower surfaces is very conducive to great counter punching. Nadal does hit great shots on the run, but so does Djokovic. I feel like Djokovic is about as fast as Nadal now (not younger Nadal), but Nadal is still a bit quicker. Nadal maintains his speed well during long matches.
While early Nadal's speed truly was exceptional, I have a feeling much of his perceived speed post-injuries has to do with his needing less preparation than others. His superior upper body physique and short backswing enables him to hit his powerful whipping forehand from pressured positions where others might have to slice it, making him seem faster than he really is.
Any truth to this?
Apparently he can cover 10m per second. Not sure how long he can sustain that but its not far off Usain Bolt's 100m record!
And his larger than average physique doesn't help a bit.
The 'main reason for his success' is his great athleticism & good build.
Just enough to win 2 Slams and be #1 this year. (LLOLOLOLLLLOOL)
I think his anticipation and court sense and tennis iq are highly underrated and account for much of his court coverage - along with his above average speed of course.
In terms of pure court coverage Monfils is faster than anyone..I've seen him get to drop shots that no other player on the planet can get to....he's just not nearly as good a tennis player as Djokovic or Nadal...or anyone in the top 10.
Nadal's greatness comes from getting to balls and actually doing offensive things with them where other people just pop them back or squash shot them.
And i have seen Rafa play and beat Monfils by just imposing his physicality on him; the first set was equal, then Monfils couldn't sustain his effort anymore, while Rafa still covers his side of the court just the same like the proverbial energised bunny.
Monfils is just one of these multitude of players who doesn't have the physique to match his style of game.
Moving forward maybe but his side to side movement is far from the best. It is good but nowhere near as good as Nadal or Djokovic, or several others, and that is where most of the movement in tennis is, especialy for a baseliner.
Monfils also looks like a clumsy oaf covering the court compared to Nadal. I remember seeing Monfils play Federer and he was using strained and awkward movements to change directions and keep up with Federer. Nadal, on the other hand, shrinks the court a lot more effectively and he can accomplish this without all the goofy slips and slides that Monfils has to employ.
No one will ever be as graceful and effortless as Roger while still having tremendous speed, anticipation and footwork. On this there can be absolutely no debate whatsoever otherwise you are insane.
Who has the actual fastest speed? In tennis its all about sprints and changing direction. I'm sure this has been measured over the course of a few matches and all the top suspects should be pretty close. Its not like any one of them is that much faster.
Have you seen this match on clay versus Coria in 2004? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUnCOhMV-1U
He's like a bullet.
This is Nadal on clay. It's a whole other freaking level from current ******* on grass.
I doubt it.
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