Nadal-Kyrgios 2014 Wimbledon 4th round

Nadal vs Kyrgios

  • Nadal in 3

    Votes: 22 28.9%
  • Nadal in 4

    Votes: 28 36.8%
  • Nadal in 5

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Kyrgios in 3

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Kyrgios in 4

    Votes: 11 14.5%
  • Kyrgios in 5

    Votes: 11 14.5%

  • Total voters
    76
  • Poll closed .
This was one of the worst losses of Nadal's career. He was playing his best game, but still lost! Just think about it, Nadal didn't lose his serve for a full 3.5 sets, when was the last time he was THIS GOOD! Still, even with Nadal playing his best, this guy blasted Nadal off the court!
This point seems to be lost on some in their hastiness to denigrate Nadal. First serves were exceptionally high and unforced errors low, but still Special K found a way to win. Actually, at certain stages of the match he "bullied" Nadal similar to Stan's effort in the AO (even before the injury became apparent).

Those carrying on about K's return of serve in the match need to look at the stats, particularly the high % of first serves. At one stage, the 2nd set, Nadal's was 90%+, but he remained highly competitive during that set, except for a loose volley, may have won that set also.
 

powerangle

Legend
Nadal actually went down after losing the first set this time. Well you can only tempt fate so many times. Something's gotta give eventually.
 
Did anyone think kyrgios was rubbing it in a lil against nadal when he was winning? He was pumping himself alot
You're kidding, right?

He is little more than an adolescent, is exuberant by nature, in case you haven't noticed. He brings unique, joyous energy to the game, which promoters and sponsors can only drool about.

Do you want another Lendle?
 

powerangle

Legend
Russell: Like you've never been wrong in your life. Rafa had never lost to a teenager. How does one predict a precedent. I didn't see it coming, big deal.
It's one thing to not see it coming...which is fine, since we are all wrong at times. But you were freakin' cocky as all hell, now that I'm reading back through this thread. Calling people out for being dumb and just being plainly rude.

And now that Rafa has lost, it's all sour grapes for you and you want Fed to lose to make you feel better. Very typical (and typical for some others here as well).

I am a big fan of Djoko, but I am never rude nor cocky.

It's not that you were wrong...it's that you were so smug about it.

EDIT**************

I see that you apologized here:

Yeah I did go overboard with that stuff but it was in the heat of the match.
Anyway, point taken. My sincere apologies.
Good that you recognize yourself going overboard. It's all good, we can all get heated in the moment. The important thing is that you realize your fault(s).
 
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Maximagq

Banned
It's one thing to not see it coming...which is fine, since we are all wrong at times. But you were freakin' cocky as all hell, now that I'm reading back through this thread. Calling people out for being dumb and just being plainly rude.

And now that Rafa has lost, it's all sour grapes for you and you want Fed to lose to make you feel better. Very typical (and typical for some others here as well).

I am a big fan of Djoko, but I am never rude nor cocky.

It's not that you were wrong...it's that you were so smug about it.
I'm giving vero a pass since she is a Nadal AND djokovic fan, but this thread was not her best moment.
 

dafinch

Banned
It's one thing to not see it coming...which is fine, since we are all wrong at times. But you were freakin' cocky as all hell, now that I'm reading back through this thread. Calling people out for being dumb and just being plainly rude.

And now that Rafa has lost, it's all sour grapes for you and you want Fed to lose to make you feel better. Very typical (and typical for some others here as well).

I am a big fan of Djoko, but I am never rude nor cocky.

It's not that you were wrong...it's that you were so smug about it.
Very well said...
 
Thank you. I'll cheer twice as hard for Novak tomorrow to thank you for your generosity :)
"The quality of mercy is not strained.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blessed:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes."

Even in tennis. :)
 

Fiji

Legend
This was not a surprise. He lost his first match at SW19 last year. Lost his second match there in 2012. Only a fool would give him chance. Non factor on grass since 2012.
 

Maximagq

Banned
Trust me, I will. It's Novak all the way now for me!
I like you since you are also a Novak fan, and I do feel bad for Rafa given how hard he fought. I do have a great eye for talent so I can understand why people didn't think this kid could keep up with Nadal. He is as tenacious as a bulldog.
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
I wasn't around much during the Clarky era, the name just sounds familiar. What's the big deal with him/her?
Just some mentally deranged Nadal fangirl who picked Nadal to lose every match he played from the 2011- late 2013 (until her ban).

I remember she was hyping up Ryan Harrison as a threat to Nadal before the first round of the USO last year. :lol: :lol:
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Nadal WON. he is filing a complaint that Kyrio's haircut is against regulation of all England club. and that disqualifies him automatically... NO joke.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Just some mentally deranged Nadal fangirl who picked Nadal to lose every match he played from the 2011- late 2013 (until her ban).

I remember she was hyping up Ryan Harrison as a threat to Nadal before the first round of the USO last year. :lol: :lol:
I think she was mostly trolling. She was a funny poster. I did not find her objectionable at all. Odd but not a bad poster. She had some humor.
 

President

Legend
Just some mentally deranged Nadal fangirl who picked Nadal to lose every match he played from the 2011- late 2013 (until her ban).

I remember she was hyping up Ryan Harrison as a threat to Nadal before the first round of the USO last year. :lol: :lol:
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
+1.............
 

Maximagq

Banned
Maxi you are right he just might be the Next Djokovic with more power. Many of these point constructions are classic Djokovic. The return and defense need much more work tho.
I will take your word for it because I honestly didn't watch most of the match haha. I was referring to his aggression and his will to win. He has the hunger and desire that made Djokovic an all-time great.
 

sillymonkey

Hall of Fame
If you ask me the loser here was Wimbledon. Poor scheduling bordering on favoritism & rigged draws; shall I go on?
Let the trolls come out, but be honest...no days off for some players and two days off for others. Cake-*** draws for Murray and Joker and Fed. Please.
The phenom got the win and well-deserved. He played beautiful and fearless tennis. How will he do next round? We shall see.
Win or lose; Nadal would've had to come back and play tomorrow which is crazy unfair, but it's all about "tradition" at Wimby, right?
BS
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
Cake-*** draws for Murray and Joker and Fed. Please.
Oh, give it a rest. You can only blame your favorite player for dropping the first set to Klizan, Rosol, and Kukukiskin. I doubt these guys would even have gotten a set on Federer, Djokovic, and Murray.

Djokovic has played much higher ranked opponents than Nadal has all tournament, but he has been navigating through it quite smoothly. That doesn't make his draw "Cake-***"

but yeah, the scheduling sucks.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
Oh, give it a rest. You can only blame your favorite player for dropping the first set to Klizan, Rosol, and Kukukiskin.

Djokovic has played much higher ranked opponents than Nadal has all tournament.
Kyrgios did beat Gasquet too, so this is not his first high-ranked scalp this Wimbledon. This is not a bad loss at all.
 

tenisdecente

Hall of Fame
Cake-*** draws for Murray and Joker and Fed.
WTF? Djokovic played two horrible opponents. Stepanek took one set from him (and almost took him to a 5 setter!). Simon is also a tough opponent. Nadal has not had an opponent of the quality of any those two. About Federer, he swept the floor with a guy that took Nadal off a Wimbledon a few years ago... give me a break!
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
If you ask me the loser here was Wimbledon. Poor scheduling bordering on favoritism & rigged draws; shall I go on?
Let the trolls come out, but be honest...no days off for some players and two days off for others. Cake-*** draws for Murray and Joker and Fed. Please.
The phenom got the win and well-deserved. He played beautiful and fearless tennis. How will he do next round? We shall see.
Win or lose; Nadal would've had to come back and play tomorrow which is crazy unfair, but it's all about "tradition" at Wimby, right?
BS
A little cheese with your whine?

If it were just him you might have a case. But maybe you didn't notice - the points aren't that long on grass. 3 days in a row isn't that bad. And he's not about to turn 33. If his over-practicing is coming home to roost only his uncle and the guy in the mirror are to blame.
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Hey vero how do you rate Nadal's chances at Wimbledon this year? Surely, it was supposed to be his year as you mentioned so often.

Where's your confidence now?
With this loss, there is no more denying that grass has become Rafa's worst surface. Hasn't reached quarter at W since 2011. That is a very contrasting result to what he's done in the 3 other slams. I think he's not able to return on the surface the way he was in the past. The serve wasn't too bad this year.
OTOH he had never played KG before, that was the 1st time and KG was having a breakthrough event with the type of game best suited to grass. Clearly, that didn't help.
From there, there are 2 good news for Rafa: very few events are played on grass each season and he will surely fare better on clay and hard. Even if he doesn't repeat his extraordinary summer of last year, I think he will have more opportunities to shine than on grass.

ETA: sillymonkey: Djoko didn't get the new grass prodigy maybe but still I don't think anyone would call Step, Simon, Tsonga and Cilic a cake. Of all the reasons to be angry at this loss, Djoko's draw surely can't be one...
 
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powerangle

Legend
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
Clarky was fine...until she viscerally attacked me many times during her latter days...
 

Sentinel

Bionic Poster
I think she was mostly trolling. She was a funny poster. I did not find her objectionable at all. Odd but not a bad poster. She had some humor.
Yup, clarky was nice with an odd sense of humor. Certainly better than a lot of posters, and what is so wrong if she picked Rafa to lose every time. She had a new nick for Joker every other day, too, which was quite funny. She took herself quite seriously, lol.

I am surprised to hear she attacked powerangle. maybe that's why she got banned. I saw her getting attacked a lot and never responding angrily -- people asking her to jump off a cliff etc, she took it coolly. I was surprised to find her banned.
 
If you ask me the loser here was Wimbledon. Poor scheduling bordering on favoritism & rigged draws; shall I go on?
Let the trolls come out, but be honest...no days off for some players and two days off for others. Cake-*** draws for Murray and Joker and Fed. Please.
The phenom got the win and well-deserved. He played beautiful and fearless tennis. How will he do next round? We shall see.
Win or lose; Nadal would've had to come back and play tomorrow which is crazy unfair, but it's all about "tradition" at Wimby, right?
BS
And Nadal didn't have a cakewalk draw? He didn't have to face a seeded opponent while he was in the tournament...

1st round: Klizan
2nd round: Rosol
3rd round: Kukushkin
4th round: Kyrgios
 
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
+1.............
Yup, clarky was nice with an odd sense of humor. Certainly better than a lot of posters, and what is so wrong if she picked Rafa to lose every time. She had a new nick for Joker every other day, too, which was quite funny. She took herself quite seriously, lol.

I am surprised to hear she attacked powerangle. maybe that's why she got banned. I saw her getting attacked a lot and never responding angrily -- people asking her to jump off a cliff etc, she took it coolly. I was surprised to find her banned.
+2..........
I actually like her myself. She's really disagreeable and hilariously funny at the same time. Ahhhhhh, I miss Ms Clarky........:)
 

Sid_Vicious

G.O.A.T.
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
Please!

She called Djokovic a silverback gorilla, yokel, ape and countless ridiculous insults over the years. She used to makeup stories about Djokovic all the time. When Djokovic stopped working with Dusan Vemic last year, Clarky pulled out some BS story about how Vemic was hurt by Djokovic spewing vulgar insults at him during his match against Isner in Cincy, which plenty of posters questioned her about and she had absolutely nothing to say about it and just never posted again on the topic. She sank so low at times that she accused Djokovic of milking the death of his dead coach last year. So, NO! She was crude, aggressive, and full to the brim with hatred.

Those posters you mentioned are bad, but Clarky was absolutely ridiculous and more than capable of giving every single one of them a run for their money. Its a great thing she got the ban hammer.
 
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Maximagq

Banned
Please!

She called Djokovic a silverback gorilla, yokel, ape and countless ridiculous insults over the years. She used to makeup stories about Djokovic all the time. When Djokovic stopped working with Dusan Vemic last year, Clarky pulled out some BS story about how Vemic was hurt by Djokovic spewing vulgar insults at him during his match against Isner in Cincy, which plenty of posters questioned her about and she had absolutely nothing to say about it and just never posted again on the topic. She sank so low at times that she accused Djokovic of milking the death of his dead coach last year. So, NO! She was crude, aggressive, and full to the brim with hatred.

Those posters you mentioned are bad, but Clarky was absolutely ridiculous and more than capable of giving every single one of them a run for their money. Its a great thing she got the ban hammer.
Not sure if I was a poster yet but I really hated Clarky. She was a 8itch!
 

Russeljones

G.O.A.T.
Yup, clarky was nice with an odd sense of humor. Certainly better than a lot of posters, and what is so wrong if she picked Rafa to lose every time. She had a new nick for Joker every other day, too, which was quite funny. She took herself quite seriously, lol.

I am surprised to hear she attacked powerangle. maybe that's why she got banned. I saw her getting attacked a lot and never responding angrily -- people asking her to jump off a cliff etc, she took it coolly. I was surprised to find her banned.
Yeah, I noticed that too. She was on the receiving end of a lot of bile.
 

FreeBird

Legend
I liked Clarky, she was much better than posters like 1-3-0, octobrina, tennis addict, dudeski, Magnus, and that whole crew. At least she wasn't quite as aggressive and crude in her hate towards players. Her posts always made me laugh as well, unlike the aforementioned posters.
hell no. She was quite repetitive. Dudeski and 130 are funny and innovative. Didnt you love it when 130 came with phrases like Serbian prankster, LoSoR and Djick? Or duseski praying a 5 setter for Nadal so that he could get tired for the next match? :lol:
 
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Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
I have to agree with Sid here. Clarky gave as good as she got, and eventually her names for Djokovic and her general posting style got really annoying, and I mean really annoying.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
You mean, as opposed to the phony lawn mower pulls and bellowing "Vamos!" that we've had to endure over the years?
I think this should be quoted because I think it's pretty accurate. Any Nadal fan (or otherwise) complaining about Krygios's celebrations just needs to look at Nadal. He's bad enough with celebrations now, but when he was Nick's age he was even worse. The Rome finals in 2005 and 2006 and the Wimbledon finals of 2006 are particularly vivid in my memory.

Really, Nadal got a bit of his own medicine today where the celebrations are concerned. He was just as bad if not worse when he was Nick's age.
 

maruzo

Semi-Pro
I think this should be quoted because I think it's pretty accurate. Any Nadal fan (or otherwise) complaining about Krygios's celebrations just needs to look at Nadal. He's bad enough with celebrations now, but when he was Nick's age he was even worse. The Rome finals in 2005 and 2006 and the Wimbledon finals of 2006 are particularly vivid in my memory.

Really, Nadal got a bit of his own medicine today where the celebrations are concerned. He was just as bad if not worse when he was Nick's age.
That's true. Nadal's an emotional guy, and he tend to show case his emotions.

Sometimes a little reservation and humidity goes a long way.
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
And Rafa wins set and guess who was right? Cocky girl all the way. Because it has NOTHING to do with cockiness, folks, nor superior IQ (I wish :)) but plain common sense that this kid has 0 experience of big matches on the pro tour. Zip. None. And he's not gonna outwit or outlast #1 player.
Sorry to say but people are a bit foolish on this board sometimes. Plain common sense, that's all it takes.
WOOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ain't nobody got time for your cocky comments, vero. The more confident you were in Nadal winning Wimbledon, the more I'm happy he lost. No offence but IN YOUR FACE. Arrogance is no way to go through life, you can learn some from your idol.

Don't take anything for granted. Never, ever. Unless you wanna see more comments like mine cause I'm gonna point out each of your arrogant posts.
 
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