Nadal might actually be #1 after Wimbledon

[underground]

Let's suppose Rafa sweeps Rome and RG. This will put him at 8105 points in the rankings. Note Rafa has no points to defend in the grass season.

Now if you take off Murray's points from RG-Wimbledon, he's standing at 6670 points. Which means Murray needs to earn 1435 points from RG-Wimbledon just to even have a chance of retaining #1, and this is with the assumption that Rafa doesn't win a single match on grass.

So what are the chances? QF at RG, W at Queen's and SF at Wimbly gives Murray 1580 points, but you will think that Rafa can get 145 points for once (R4 at Wimbly/ SF at Queen's will do), so even that might not be enough.

 

[Rafa the King]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

 

[TheMaestro1990]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

Rome and RG will probably happen, but I just can't see Rafa winning Wimbledon ever again, let alone get to the final. But who knows?

 

[Backspin1183]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

You and MN, come back to earth please. Let Rafa win RG first. Then we can talk about other possibilities. It would be a shame if he doesn't win the FO after such good clay results.

 

[underground]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

I mean if Rafa wins Rome and RG he can just go back and chill. Even then he has as good as a chance as a coin toss to get #1 without playing.

 

[Rafa the King]

Rome and RG will probably happen, but I just can't see Rafa winning Wimbledon ever again, let alone get to the final. But who knows?

We can dream. But if he is to win another non RG slam, fingers crossed he actually wins another RG, it will most likely be USO or AO

 

[TheMaestro1990]

We can dream. But if he is to win another non RG slam, fingers crossed he actually wins another RG, it will most likely be USO or AO

I agree, those are most likely.

 

[MichaelNadal]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

Nadal, after being epic for well over a decade, still has such a big #EpicMeter he could fill by winning WImbledon or the USO. I never thought after the borefest of 2015/16 we'd even be having these conversations again. That's my dude!

#UltimateGohan to return to world #1?

 

[Meles]

Nadal, after being epic for well over a decade, still has such a big #EpicMeter he could fill by winning WImbledon or the USO. I never thought after the borefest of 2015/16 we'd even be having these conversations again. That's my dude!

#UltimateGohan to return to world #1?

I'm not sure what hurt him in total from 2012 onwards, but Nadal2017 has a great serve game and seems to be return first serve really well on clay so far. I'd think a much betterer serve game at Wimbledon would really get him in the hunt. His competition for number 1 looks like its going to be Feddy as its just a matter of time the way Murray is going.

 

[maratha_warrior]

Knowing Rafa if he wins RG , he will miss Wimbledon and will return for Rogers masters cup !

 

[MichaelNadal]

I'm not sure what hurt him in total from 2012 onwards, but Nadal2017 has a great serve game and seems to be return first serve really well on clay so far. I'd think a much betterer serve game at Wimbledon would really get him in the hunt. His competition for number 1 looks like its going to be Feddy as its just a matter of time the way Murray is going.

It's weird but #1 is starting to look halfway realistic as long as he doesn't go down the toilet these next 2 months. And Fed doesn't win a million things second half of the year.

 

[Meles]

It's weird but #1 is starting to look halfway realistic as long as he doesn't go down the toilet these next 2 months. And Fed doesn't win a million things second half of the year.

A healthy Rafa is throwing down the gauntlet on hard courts. Don't let the Federistas tell you otherwise. Grass will be a great test. Rafa is still plenty fast to win on the surface if he holds serve. Fed and Baby Fed are kind of my favorites until Rafa produces. If he makes a dent on grass then he should be great on hard courts. I was not impressed with his post Auz hard courts, but he's going to have his traditional momentum by the looks of things.

 

[cc0509]

A healthy Rafa is throwing down the gauntlet on hard courts. Don't let the Federistas tell you otherwise. Grass will be a great test. Rafa is still plenty fast to win on the surface if he holds serve. Fed and Baby Fed are kind of my favorites until Rafa produces. If he makes a dent on grass then he should be great on hard courts. I was not impressed with his post Auz hard courts, but he's going to have his traditional momentum by the looks of things.

You're putting Dimitrov in the same boat as Federer in terms of being favorites for Wimbledon? Are you off your rocker more than usual?

 

[MichaelNadal]

A healthy Rafa is throwing down the gauntlet on hard courts. Don't let the Federistas tell you otherwise. Grass will be a great test. Rafa is still plenty fast to win on the surface if he holds serve. Fed and Baby Fed are kind of my favorites until Rafa produces. If he makes a dent on grass then he should be great on hard courts. I was not impressed with his post Auz hard courts, but he's going to have his traditional momentum by the looks of things.

Nadal doing something at WImbledon would be so epic it's ridiculous. Man I so hope he can, it sounds so tasty.

 

[jm1980]

Nadal doing something at WImbledon would be so epic it's ridiculous. Man I so hope he can, it sounds so tasty.

I'm personally hoping for more of this

 

[cc0509]

Nadal doing something at WImbledon would be so epic it's ridiculous. Man I so hope he can, it sounds so tasty.

Does "something" mean getting past 2R?

J/K, you never know but I'm hoping Federer makes history and wins Wimbledon #8, sorry.

 

[Roddick85]

Fed and Baby Fed are kind of my favorites until Rafa produces.

Dimitrov is also one of my favorite players, however we have to be realistic here. His chances of winning are rather thin if you look at how he's performing at the moment. He made some progress earlier this year, but regressed quite a lot since IW and there's no sign that the bleeding will stop after the clay swing is over. Dimitrov should play better on grass, but he looks like a mess mentally, so I'm not holding my breath on his chances at SW 19. As much as I don't believe Rafa is a factor on grass anymore, I still like his odds better than Dimitrov at Wimbledon because Rafa has gained a lot of momentum/confidence in the last couple of weeks and that could definitely surprise a lot of people, if Rafa can stay injury free.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I'm personally hoping for more of this

Eww, seen it, been there, done that. Bro deserves something more now. 2014/12 were epic. 13 and 15 were a hot MESS.

Does "something" mean getting past 2R?

J/K, you never know but I'm hoping Federer makes history and wins Wimbledon #8, sorry.

Well he's your guy so I can't blame u

 

[tennisaddict]

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[MichaelNadal]

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Come on Magnum T.A, even you would think it was epic if he ended up in the semis or finals

 

[tennisaddict]

Come on Magnum T.A, even you would think it was epic if he ended up in the semis or finals

You know well that I will give anything to avoid seeing the RoboMurray match up. They can even turn Wimb into RG replay.

 

[Meles]

Dimitrov is also one of my favorite players, however we have to be realistic here. His chances of winning are rather thin if you look at how he's performing at the moment. He made some progress earlier this year, but regressed quite a lot since IW and there's no sign that the bleeding will stop after the clay swing is over. Dimitrov should play better on grass, but he looks like a mess mentally, so I'm not holding my breath on his chances at SW 19. As much as I don't believe Rafa is a factor on grass anymore, I still like his odds better than Dimitrov at Wimbledon because Rafa has gained a lot of momentum/confidence in the last couple of weeks and that could definitely surprise a lot of people, if Rafa can stay injury free.

Last two matches I saw were Goatatrov on the wrong surface. Third set with Delpo at Rome yesterday was a wow.

 

[Meles]

You're putting Dimitrov in the same boat as Federer in terms of being favorites for Wimbledon? Are you off your rocker more than usual?

Dimitrov won't have the cushy draw, but with the right one yes I'd be off my rocker. Don't count your Grandapaerer chickens before they've hatched.

Grass is for the quick and that's Grigs. The same guy who took Nadal to 5 at Auz and may easily have beaten Fed in the final is back to my eyes. Let's see how he does at Queens Club.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Dimitrov won't have the cushy draw, but with the right one yes I'd be off my rocker. Don't count your Grandapaerer chickens before they've hatched.

Grass is for the quick and that's Grigs. The same guy who took Nadal to 5 at Auz and may easily have beaten Fed in the final is back to my eyes. Let's see how he does at Queens Club.

Thiem has been #QuiteEpic so far this clay season. Headed in the right direction at least.......

 

[tennisaddict]

Dimitrov won't have the cushy draw, but with the right one yes I'd be off my rocker. Don't count your Grandapaerer chickens before they've hatched.

Grass is for the quick and that's Grigs. The same guy who took Nadal to 5 at Auz and may easily have beaten Fed in the final is back to my eyes. Let's see how he does at Queens Club.

Dmitrov is not going to beat Fed this year at Wimbledon man. Forget it.

The only players who can beat him this year are Djoko / Rafa .

 

[Meles]

Thiem has been #QuiteEpic so far this clay season. Headed in the right direction at least.......

He's heading right for Rafa in Rome.

Hoping you learn to dislike Thiem, enemy #1 on clay.

 

[MichaelNadal]

He's heading right for Rafa in Rome.

Hoping you learn to dislike Thiem, enemy #1 on clay.

You want me to not like Thiem? #loly? You know I'm on his #Thiem

 

[Meles]

Dmitrov is not going to beat Fed this year at Wimbledon man. Forget it.

The only players who can beat him this year are Djoko / Rafa .

Wow. You Bullieve? I'd say something about Djokovic, but he look's a little more serious in Rome. If Delpo doesn't get gassed getting through the draw that would be a great QF in Rome with Djoko. Delpo suddenly looking like he's progressed from 2016 rather than regressed.

 

[Meles]

You want me to not like Thiem? #loly? You know I'm on his #Thiem

I want Thiem to beat Rafa. If you're cool with that, that would be great. Thiem will likely have to play the match of the century to do it, but he's definitely learning how to hang on the court with Rafa.

A good friend is Rafa diehard and he likes Thiem for now too.

 

[tennisaddict]

Wow. You Bullieve? I'd say something about Djokovic, but he look's a little more serious in Rome. If Delpo doesn't get gassed getting through the draw that would be a great QF in Rome with Djoko. Delpo suddenly looking like he's progressed from 2016 rather than regressed.

The moment Djok puts his mind back into the game the only person who can give him a fight now on clay is Rafa . He showed glimpses of that in the second set at Madrid. You do feel little sad for him - the decline is more mental than physical.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I want Thiem to beat Rafa. If you're cool with that, that would be great. Thiem will likely have to play the match of the century to do it, but he's definitely learning how to hang on the court with Rafa.

A good friend is Rafa diehard and he likes Thiem for now too.

Oh no boo bear La Decima is most important. Thiem can win 5 FO's after that for all I care

 

[Meles]

Oh no boo bear La Decima is most important. Thiem can win 5 FO's after that for all I care

I want to see more of their clashes. Possibly 4 this clay season is not enough. Maybe you'd allow Thiem a win in Hamburg? .... Wow schedule not out for Hamburg, but there goes Thiem again. He's vulturing on grass in Antalya right before Wimby. What a turkey:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/antalya-2017-tournament-announcement

 

[xFullCourtTenniSx]

#UltimateGohan to return to world #1?

Nope. Because SS2 Goku is apparently equivalent to Ultimate Warrior Gohan now.

Back on topic, remember all the Nadal fans that discredited Federer's wins at the start of the year saying that "Nadal's a shell of his former self, he's never going to win or achieve anything ever again?" Well since Federer bowed out of the clay circuit, Nadal has the best chance of anyone on the tour to take the #1 spot on the rankings, took 3 clay titles, is looking to put up a good showing at the French Open (if he doesn't go La Decima on it), and could potentially sweep the clay court season for the first time in his career?

 

[ultradr]

After la decima, Rafa should forget about clay season and concentrate on Wimbledon and hard courts.

He's already done too much on clay, what no human being ever done before.

 

[cc0509]

Dimitrov won't have the cushy draw, but with the right one yes I'd be off my rocker. Don't count your Grandapaerer chickens before they've hatched.

Grass is for the quick and that's Grigs. The same guy who took Nadal to 5 at Auz and may easily have beaten Fed in the final is back to my eyes. Let's see how he does at Queens Club.

Dimitrov beating Federer at Wimbledon? WTH does Dimitrov have that will bother Federer? Federer does everything better than Dimitrov! If Federer loses at Wimbledon, it would be to a big hitter like a zoning Cilic, Zverev, Kyrgios or Raonic who can blow him off the court or it would be Nadal or a much improved Djokovic.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

@MichaelNadal I think you are the only one alongside me who would kill for Rafa to win WIM. Win RG-WIM and reclaim #1 would be the stuff of my ideal world. Anyway, Rome first then RG, La Decima would be so ****ing epic

You would have to kill every other player in the draw for Nadal to win Wimbledon. Get real.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Nope. Because SS2 Goku is apparently equivalent to Ultimate Warrior Gohan now.

Back on topic, remember all the Nadal fans that discredited Federer's wins at the start of the year saying that "Nadal's a shell of his former self, he's never going to win or achieve anything ever again?" Well since Federer bowed out of the clay circuit, Nadal has the best chance of anyone on the tour to take the #1 spot on the rankings, took 3 clay titles, is looking to put up a good showing at the French Open (if he doesn't go La Decima on it), and could potentially sweep the clay court season for the first time in his career?

He's swept the clay season before
And SSJ2 Goku isn't=SSJ2 Gohan, ALL Goku's transformations are waaaay leveled up at this point from DBZ considering all the training he's done to this point.
Also Gohan kept up with him until he went Blue and Kaoiken, we'll see what happens in the tournament.

 

[cc0509]

You would have to kill every other player in the draw for Nadal to win Wimbledon. Get real.

Like your predictions are reliable. Didn't you say Djokovic would beat Nadal black and blue in Madrid and didn't you have Nadal losing to a bunch of other clowns in the past few weeks?

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Like your predictions are reliable. Didn't you say Djokovic would beat Nadal black and blue in Madrid and didn't you have Nadal losing to a bunch of other clowns in the past few weeks?

I also predicted that he would get his ass kicked in the early rounds of the last 4 Wimbledon's he entered and I was right every time.

 

[Tommy Haas]

I think at this stage in Nadal and Fed's careers, rankings aren't that important anymore. They also have plenty of money. What they want are more slam titles and other records to solidify their place in tennis history.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I also predicted that he would get his ass kicked in the early rounds of the last 4 Wimbledon's he entered and I was right every time.

Thank God for that, or how would you have gotten out of bed?!?

 

[cc0509]

I also predicted that he would get his ass kicked in the early rounds of the last 4 Wimbledon's he entered and I was right every time.

Yes, he may very well get his arse kicked in an early round at Wimbledon. We have to wait and see. With him nothing surprises me.

 

[Roddick85]

Last two matches I saw were Goatatrov on the wrong surface. Third set with Delpo at Rome yesterday was a wow.

Yeah until he double faulted and gifted the break and broke his frame .

I realize Dimitrov dislikes playing on clay, but the downfall started at IW. Whether he likes the surface or not, his current results can't be good for his confidence. Let's say he loses again in either the 1st or 2nd round at the FO, in what kind of mental shape will he be in for the grass season? Does he forget everything that happened in the last 3 months and goes back to what he was doing in the first 2 months? Or he remains fragile mentally and doesn't do much? Perhaps I'm wrong and he will find his mojo before Wimbledon and have another strong run, but one thing that's for sure, he needs to gain a bit of momentum somewhere and rebuild his confidence.

 

[Meles]

Yeah until he double faulted and gifted the break and broke his frame .

I realize Dimitrov dislikes playing on clay, but the downfall started at IW. Whether he likes the surface or not, his current results can't be good for his confidence. Let's say he loses again in either the 1st or 2nd round at the FO, in what kind of mental shape will he be in for the grass season? Does he forget everything that happened in the last 3 months and goes back to what he was doing in the first 2 months? Or he remains fragile mentally and doesn't do much? Perhaps I'm wrong and he will find his mojo before Wimbledon and have another strong run, but one thing that's for sure, he needs to gain a bit of momentum somewhere and rebuild his confidence.

It could easily happen at RG with the right draw. This Delpo and Thiem were rough draws. It wouldn't suprise me if he took a wildcard into Lyon or Geneva.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Thank God for that, or how would you have gotten out of bed?!?

I haven't cared about Nadal for a while. I even rooted for him against Kyrgios. But I also don't respect him attempting to weasel his way to the number one ranking by vulturing the entire clay season for the nth time. No one has taken the surface seriously for decades and there hasn't been any real competition on it for an equal amount of time. But here Nadal is happy to exploit this loop hole yet again with the same **** eating grin he has always had.

 

[cc0509]

I haven't cared about Nadal for a while. I even rooted for him against Kyrgios. But I also don't respect him attempting to weasel his way to the number one ranking by vulturing the entire clay season for the nth time. No one has taken the surface seriously for decades and there hasn't been any real competition on it for an equal amount of time. But here Nadal is happy to exploit this loop hole yet again with the same **** eating grin he has always had.

But yet you didn't complain when Djokovic won his FO with the same crummy competition.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I haven't cared about Nadal for a while. I even rooted for him against Kyrgios. But I also don't respect him attempting to weasel his way to the number one ranking by vulturing the entire clay season for the nth time. No one has taken the surface seriously for decades and there hasn't been any real competition on it for an equal amount of time. But here Nadal is happy to exploit this loop hole yet again with the same **** eating grin he has always had.

Lol have several seats, the translation to this post is:

"I'm only bothered bc Federer would be #1 in the race by miles if Nadal was still mugging it up.... why does he have to be raking in points now "

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Lol have several seats, the translation to this post is:

"I'm only bothered bc Federer would be #1 in the race by miles if Nadal was still mugging it up.... why does he have to be raking in points now "

Right now I'm rooting more for Novak than anyone as I generally root for the underdog between Novak and Federer. And I prefer Novak's personality.

Regarding Nadal, his recent run didn't bother me at all until I saw that stupid quack celebration again, I think against Fognini. He knows that the competition is so low that these matches are barely more than a formality and yet he still celebrates after a 1st (2nd?) round match like he just won a slam final on hard court or grass, where there is actually some competition.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

Only a rejuvenated Novak can possibly stop Rafa at this point it might seem.

However:

Nadal has often struggled after RG in recent years, even when he did great on clay

 

[xFullCourtTenniSx]

He's swept the clay season before
And SSJ2 Goku isn't=SSJ2 Gohan, ALL Goku's transformations are waaaay leveled up at this point from DBZ considering all the training he's done to this point.
Also Gohan kept up with him until he went Blue and Kaoiken, we'll see what happens in the tournament.

No he hasn't. Well, guess it depends on your definition of sweep. But winning clay isn't complete to Nadal without Barcelona.

I never said SS2 Gohan. I said Ultimate Warrior Gohan. There's at least an 4x magnitude difference (probably 6x difference).