Nadal might be barred from 2024 Paris Olympics due to ITF rules

AgassiSuperSlam11

Professional
Due to ITF rules which require Davis Cup participation for the last 2 years it's likely Nadal will be barred from the 2024 Paris Olympics (unless they change the rules). Here is a portion of the article from City AM:

Rafael Nadal is being denied a potential farewell at the Paris 2024 Olympics by inflexible International Tennis Federation rules that need changing, says one of the sport’s leading chiefs.

Nadal, 37, has announced that he plans to retire next year and it is understood that the King of Clay had hoped to bow out on the red courts of Roland Garros, where the Paris 2024 tennis competition will be held — and site of his record 14 French Open titles.

But under current ITF rules he is forbidden from entering because he will not have played in the last two editions of the Davis Cup.

That is the rule. Why do we make it so difficult?” Dietloff von Arnim, the president of the German tennis federation, told CITY A.M. in an interview published today.

“Rafa is thinking about playing in Paris. Make it easy for them to play there. They want to play. We have to change the rules. I’m not sitting on the board or the Olympic committee, but I think we should discuss it.”

Nadal won Olympic gold in Beijing in 2008 and finished fourth in Rio in 2016 but did not play in Tokyo three years ago.

Competing in Paris would allow the Spaniard to bid farewell to the sport in his favored arena of Roland Garros, where he has won the bulk of his 22 Grand Slam titles.

Von Arnim is standing against incumbent David Haggerty in the ITF’s presidential elections later this year and says he would seek to change the rules to allow Nadal to play the Olympics.

He also wants to see the Olympic tennis competitions recognized with ranking points, having been buttonholed on the issue by Tokyo 2020 men’s gold medalist Alexander Zverev.

“If I can still do so I would surely, do it, and think about points for the Olympics, because I think from the players point of view it’s not fair,” he added.

“We should make it easy for the players to play and take the obstacles away. Let them play, make it easy for them. We have to make all of our decisions understandable to the players and support their point of view.

“Sascha [Zverev] came to me and said ‘can you please explain to me why I did not get points at the Olympics?’. I think it’s so important that tennis is played at the Olympics. The players love it, we love it for the promotion of the game.

“But why did Sascha not get points? Why don’t we do that? We are the ITF, we have to talk to the ATP [men’s tour], and let’s make a fair adjustment that players get points. Sascha was not happy at all.”

If Nadal makes a recovery, I think they might get pressured in changing the rules but will see what happens. Of course, if he is not fully recovered or playing at a subpar level then this is all meaningless.
 

AgassiSuperSlam11

Professional
Since this thread involves general ITF rules I thought this was not exactly "Nadal news" as this involves general tennis rules and policy. The article also discusses Zverev and his complaint. Nonetheless, this can be merged with Nadal news if it violates TTW rules and regulations.
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
OG have special invitational card for former gold medal winners.
Idt, nadal fans should be worried about OG participation if he will be ready to compete on tour

OP seems to have strong patriotic feelings :unsure:
 

Jonesy

Legend
I think thats why he wants to play DC...also someone mentioned here that he can get WC if he is a slam or former Olympics winner
I have some doubts about the interpretation of that rule. If it is just the current holder or if any slam winner/gold medalist.
 

AgassiSuperSlam11

Professional
OG have special invitational card for former gold medal winners.
Idt, nadal fans should be worried about OG participation if he will be ready to compete on tour

OP seems to have strong patriotic feelings :unsure:

The same troll that crashed another thread and for whatever reason keeps responding to my posts and made the "Hall of Fame" in a few months. That was the thread crashed by the fan of the 3-chord band. All these things sound like a strange coincidence.
 

ffw2

Hall of Fame
The same troll that crashed another thread and for whatever reason keeps responding to my posts and made the "Hall of Fame" in a few months. That was the thread crashed by the fan of the 3-chord band. All these things sound like a strange coincidence.
I was falsely accused of having an alternate account. TTW investigated and it was proven false. The same poster or alt might start that stuff again. Only in Former Player Section I can start a thread without having someone start the usual routine.
Is that guy still on your case?
 

AgassiSuperSlam11

Professional
Is that guy still on your case?
With alt accounts you never know who is who. This La Vie character was on that very thread with the fan of the 3-chord band. It appears I'm living "rent free" in this La Vie character's head who made "HOF" in just a few months. You can't block someone from responding to your thread even if they are on ignore (like other forums).

As you mentioned the way the fan of the "3-chord band" viciously attacked the both of us and remains here with complete impunity speaks volume of the moderation.
 

ffw2

Hall of Fame
With alt accounts you never know who is who. This La Vie character was on that very thread with the fan of the 3-chord band. It appears I'm living "rent free" in this La Vie character's head who made "HOF" in just a few months. You can't block someone from responding to your thread even if they are on ignore (like other forums).

As you mentioned the way the fan of the "3-chord Fan" viciously attacked the both of us and remains here with complete impunity speaks volume of the moderation.
The vile nature of his attacks is just outrageous.

Crazy thing is he presents as some sort of mild-mannered tennis fan — and collects high-fives for it.

And then in the next breath he goes off the rails with disgusting comments about other users' mothers.
 

AgassiSuperSlam11

Professional
The vile nature of his attacks is just outrageous.

Crazy thing is he presents as some sort of mild-mannered tennis fan — and collects high-fives for it.

And then in the next breath he goes off the rails with disgusting comments about other users' mothers.
I actually had a sports website and never allowed this extreme behavior. My traffic was less than TTW, with unique visitors in the five-figure range but it resulted in some decent relationships with publicists and interviews with athletes.

Has TTW interviewed any of the Top 10 players today? I know they have other sections with diverse information. If a player or their team reads these forums they likely will have trepidation in building that relationship.

I actually think in a serious note we need to feel sorry or pray for people who will viciously attack a stranger who they don't know in a personal level. I've worked with people who have very different religious and political views but still work effectively to get the work done.

This entire thread will likely get deleted anyway which is what the troll desired anyway.
 

ffw2

Hall of Fame
I actually had a sports website and never allowed this extreme behavior. My traffic was less than TTW, with unique visitors in the five-figure range but it resulted in some decent relationships with publicists and interviews with athletes.

Has TTW interviewed any of the Top 10 players today? I know they have other sections with diverse information. If a player or their team reads these forums they likely will have trepidation in building that relationship.

I actually think in a serious note we need to feel sorry or pray for people who will viciously attack a stranger who they don't know in a personal level. I've worked with people who have very different religious and political views but still work effectively to get the work done.

This entire thread will likely get deleted anyway which is what the troll desired anyway.
A head-scratcher for sure.

Seen some zany stuff here, but that was beyond the pale. Utterly bizarre that he's still permitted to post. Fair point on the brand damage bit.

They've had chats with GOATerer. Believe one of the recent ones was in the Equipment section or something.

But my suspicion is that almost anything generating site traffic — at least in the main forum area — is A-okay.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Completely agree with Herr von Arnim. The ITF and ATP have a strange schizophrenic attitude to the Olympics, sometimes awarding it ranking points, sometimes not and yet recognising it as one of tennis' big titles!! Plus what does it have to do with whether you've played Davis Cup or not (another event they both have a schizophrenic attitude towards)??
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
I'm betting if he wants to and can play, they allow him to via a rule change or waiver of some sort.

The bigger problem is what if he's not in the Top 2 Spanish players as he is right now? I know that a country doesn't HAVE to pick the top two players for their allotment, but still. I guess he's just argue "the reason I'm not in the top 2, is because I haven't been able to play." If I was the Spanish Olympic organization, I'd want to see some half-way decent results before sending him to Paris.
 
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Start da Game

Hall of Fame
i see no point in playing when he's already won the gold long back 16 years ago......what is there to play now, except to hop across one or two rounds and lose to some randomer in the first week itself......he should just retire in barcelona next year without even playing any slams......game should move on and on and beyond the big-3 as soon as possible......all these extended retirement farewells are a joke......laver, borg, sampras never had year long overly dramatic farewells......as if fed's extended farewell was not sufficient, we have this now until next year......
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I was falsely accused of having an alternate account. TTW investigated and it was proven false. The same poster or alt might start that stuff again. Only in Former Player Section I can start a thread without having someone start the usual routine.

OK, sorry to hear that.
 
idk about the DC, but really, what's the reasoning behind the Olympics tennis not awarding any points?

“Because it’s exhibition matches”
- signed by a djokovic fan

“They forgot to take away the points of the other exhibition matches at the world tour final”
- signed by a nadal fan

(Note: I am a djokovic fan - this is just a joke making fun of biases, including of djokovic fans)
 
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pedro94

Semi-Pro
Don't worry Rafa will compete unlike your hero Messi who left Europe like a coward while being on top.
Good luck watching him in McDonald pizza makers league.
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Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
I think he's earned the right to have a send-off at the event for his history with the game but as long as his inclusion is not at the expense of another player who has rightly earned their place to compete. That's where I would draw the line. It might end up being a moot point based on what we've learned about him this year though. He sounds done.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm betting if he wants to and can play, they allow him to via a rule change or waiver of some sort.

The bigger problem is what if he's not in the Top 2 Spanish players as he is right now? I know that a country doesn't HAVE to pick the top two players for their allotment, but still. I guess he's just argue "the reason I'm not in the top 2, is because I haven't been able to play." If I was the Spanish Olympic organization, I'd want to see some half-way decent results before sending him to Paris.
1) The maximum number of male singles players per country is 4.

2) A country has to pick its 4 highest ranked eligible players.

3) Rafa will have a protected ranking for either the first nine tournaments he plays or nine months beginning with the first tournament he plays.
The ITF QUALIFICATION SYSTEM says: "Protected Rankings and Special Rankings will be accepted only as set out in the ITF Paris 2024 Olympic Tennis Event Regulations as published on the ITF website a minimum of 12 months prior to the Games, and as amended from time to time." It seems that the Regulations haven't published yet.
 

bluetrain4

G.O.A.T.
1) The maximum number of male singles players per country is 4.

2) A country has to pick its 4 highest ranked eligible players.

3) Rafa will have a protected ranking for either the first nine tournaments he plays or nine months beginning with the first tournament he plays.
The ITF QUALIFICATION SYSTEM says: "Protected Rankings and Special Rankings will be accepted only as set out in the ITF Paris 2024 Olympic Tennis Event Regulations as published on the ITF website a minimum of 12 months prior to the Games, and as amended from time to time." It seems that the Regulations haven't published yet.
I didn't know it was now 4. I thought the per-country allotment was only 2 for singles, and then additional players for doubles and mixed.
 

alexio

G.O.A.T.
perhaps coolcool' fav letter is o.. p.s. ten o letters in his account, six from nickname plus four others
 

ffw2

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is known for rage and hurting lines women. Nadal is known for gamesmanship so of course he will be at the Olympics bending the rules as per usual.
He tricked quite a bit...

But the officiating crews never called him on it.

Win for the pocket books, perhaps. L for tennis tho. (n)
 
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