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Amritia

Amritia

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Nadal started the serving practice very slow, but by the end of it seemed to be serving at normal pace. Was in conversation with Moya and his doctor during serving, but I couldn't understand what they were saying.
He could play on Sunday, but depends on whether he feels pain now.
 
Raphael Nadal

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Ironically Rafa has the most entertaining service motion in the world.
You know you are entertaining when even your so-called weakest shot is more entertaining than Federer's best shot :)
 
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Amritia said:
You're not a Nadal fan so stop trolling and spamming this thread.
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Who am I fan of then? :)
And can you give me an example of when I spammed this thread?
See I post about tennis.....whereas you are posting about ME.
And you just called someone else an idiot.
That's not a good look for you.

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You must be kidding me :)
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Well I've never found textbook techniques to be entertaining, so I definitely don't find Federer's serve entertaining.
Some people like textbook, but I don't.
 
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clayqueen

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Amritia said:
Nadal started the serving practice very slow, but by the end of it seemed to be serving at normal pace. Was in conversation with Moya and his doctor during serving, but I couldn't understand what they were saying.
He could play on Sunday, but depends on whether he feels pain now.
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Rafa is scheduled to play his first match on Monday.

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topher

topher

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A real question - if Rafa wins his first two matches, can he simply not play his third match to make sure he places 2nd in the RR (to control who he plays in the SF)? Would they allow that, if so under what conditions - I assume he’d have to claim injury/fatigue, but then he’d play the SF shortly after?

Otherwise, I see limited ways in which he can control his SF position easily. Most other ways would involve throwing a match but doing it carefully so as to make sure he has a higher set win % - sounds needlessly risky.
 
Yugram

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topher said:
A real question - if Rafa wins his first two matches, can he simply not play his third match to make sure he places 2nd in the RR (to control who he plays in the SF)? Would they allow that, if so under what conditions - I assume he’d have to claim injury/fatigue, but then he’d play the SF shortly after?

Otherwise, I see limited ways in which he can control his SF position easily. Most other ways would involve throwing a match but doing it carefully so as to make sure he has a higher set win % - sounds needlessly risky.
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Let’s not rush things. As of now we can’t even be sure Rafa won’t withdraw after the first match.
 
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Yugram said:
Let’s not rush things. As of now we can’t even be sure Rafa won’t withdraw after the first match.
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Well you can try to predict Rafa's next injury, while we'll predict his results :)
After Rafa plays his first 2 matches he can then control the SF match-up, because he'll play the last Round Robin match (his group plays last, and he'll most likely be in the night session again) and he'll therefore know whether he needs to lose the match or whether he needs to lose a set or whatever number of games.
Whatever it takes to force a Medvedev-Djokovic SF.
 
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octobrina10

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EL Mundo, November 9, 2019:
Translated from Spanish via Google; an excerpt:
¤¤ Moyá: "Nadal's serve is 80%"

Carlos Moyá, Rafael Nadal’s coach, acknowledged that his serve, depleted by the abdominal injury that forced him to withdraw from Paris-Bercy, is “80%” and explained that they are “taking the right steps.”

“He is progressing every day a little more. It’s clear that we are on a tight schedule. Tomorrow it will be decisive to see how he is doing,” Moyá explained after Nadal’s training on Saturday on the centre court of the ATP Finals.
During training, Nadal was seen getting more and more intense, but always supervised by Ángel Ruiz-Cotorro, the tennis player’s doctor.

When asked about the level of Nadal’s serve, Moyá acknowledged that he is “at 80%” and that tomorrow [Sunday] he will try a little more and so on until his debut on Monday against A.Zverev
“We are taking the right steps. Tomorrow we will try a little more and Monday more. It takes time and we don’t have the time we would like to have, but we won’t do any madness either,” Moyá said. ¤¤

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Moyá: "El saque de Nadal está a un 80%"

Carlos Moyá, entrenador de Rafael Nadal, reconoció que el saque del balear, mermado por la lesión abdominal que le obligó retirarse de París-Bercy, está "a un 80 %" y explicó que s
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On Friday:


Vamos Rafa & Carlos Moya!
 
topher

topher

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Raphael Nadal said:
Well you can try to predict Rafa's next injury, while we'll predict his results :)
After Rafa plays his first 2 matches he can then control the SF match-up, because he'll play the last Round Robin match (his group plays last, and he'll most likely be in the night session again) and he'll therefore know whether he needs to lose the match or whether he needs to lose a set or whatever number of games.
Whatever it takes to force a Medvedev-Djokovic SF.
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My point being - if he wins his first two matches it’s possible that he won’t be able to control his SF place. For example if it’s a three way 2-1 tie, and Rafa beat the other 2 (Zverev and Medvedev, for example, with Tsitsipas going 0-3) he’ll automatically be the winner of his RR group.

So I agree with others that it’s too early to be talking about controlling the SF matchup. Let’s just hope he plays healthy and beats the defending champ Sasha.
 
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ElChivoEspañol

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BeatlesFan said:
I hope you guys are reporting the non-Nadal fans trolling in the Rafa News thread. The same stuff is happening on the Fed News thread and it shouldn't be happening.
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I personally do not care. I think it’s an aberration that people get banned for having a different opinion on a forum meant for sharing...wait for it....opinions.

But then again I’m a ardent defender of our first amendment right (USA constitution).
 
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Cupcake

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I know he has the best care, but his injury was suffered just a week ago. That's not very long to heal, especially when expected to be at one's athletic best to compete against the best. Perhaps they are hoping he'll be able to do good enough to squeak through the RR to qualify for the end rounds...and as the days go by, heal further.

Will 80% be enough? We;'ll find out. I hope so. At this time of the year what has he got to lose. Davis Cup? who cares. Just so he's ready for the AO.
 
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Cupcake said:
I know he has the best care, but his injury was suffered just a week ago. That's not very long to heal, especially when expected to be at one's athletic best to compete against the best. Perhaps they are hoping he'll be able to do good enough to squeak through the RR to qualify for the end rounds...and as the days go by, heal further.

Will 80% be enough? We;'ll find out. I hope so. At this time of the year what has he got to lose. Davis Cup? who cares. Just so he's ready for the AO.
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Rafa is 11-1 vs. his group, so he clearly doesn't need to be at his athletic best :)
He can serve all 2nd Serves and beat these guys.
He really only needs to peak in the SF or Final, so he can take his time in the RR matches and serve well within himself.

And quite frankly, if his main goal is to secure #1, then he may only need to make the SF, because if Djokovic loses the Final (or if Djokovic loses to Medvedev in the SF) then Rafa finishes #1 just by reaching the SF.
And Djokovic hasn't won for 3 years-
2018 = Zverev def. Djokovic
2017 = Dimitrov def. Goffin
2016 = Murray def. Djokovic
 
Amritia

Amritia

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Raphael Nadal said:
Rafa is 11-1 vs. his group, so he clearly doesn't need to be at his athletic best :)
He can serve all 2nd Serves and beat these guys.
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Again you're constantly spamming this thread with absurdities. We understand you're not a Nadal fan, and your attempts to mock Nadal and his fans has officially become boring. You will soon be banned from the forum if you persist, in my opinion.
 
Amritia

Amritia

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MichaelNadal said:
Well the fact that he is still practicing is a good sign. But we need to temper expectations till the first match is over
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In practice his serve seemed decent by the end of the session... but it's hard to tell if it was causing pain or if he can sustain a proper first serve throughout the match. Moya said he's at 80% which isn't great... if there's any chance of injury exacerbation he should quit.
 
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irishnadalfan1983 said:
His coach says he is only 80%...He will play but by playing this will aggregate injury...I am not so excited after Moya gave us 80%...
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I agree. And that assumes Moya is telling the truth. It would be more likely that the Nadal camp is playing down the injury. Again, the injury is only a week old, and it takes time for things to heal. He will be going up against the top 8 players in the world, most of whom are younger than Rafa. It really doesnt matter what their previous head to head record is if they smell blood in the water.

Don;'t get me wrong - I'm a big Rafa fan. But I've worried myself through every injury he's had since he's been a pro.
 
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irishnadalfan1983 said:
His coach says he is only 80%...He will play but by playing this will aggregate injury...I am not so excited after Moya gave us 80%...
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80% doesn't mean 80% health, it means form :)
And Rafa has had plenty of occasions when his serve was well below 80% form, and it made no difference, because he's great at breaking serve.....
Plus let's be honest, even when Rafa doesn't get cheap points on serve, he holds serve most of the time.
Any 'Nadal fans' expecting Zverev to win, are making a fool of themselves.
 
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irishnadalfan1983

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MichaelNadal said:
Well the fact that he is still practicing is a good sign. But we need to temper expectations till the first match is over
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Agreed but practice and match play are very different - stresses and strains are hard to replicate....In practice you remember to hold back and aggravate injury - different in a match - adrenaline may get you through a match but you will feel it afterwards...Would be surprised if he makes it through the week but lets wait and hope :)
 
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irishnadalfan1983 said:
Agreed but practice and match play are very different - stresses and strains are hard to replicate....In practice you remember to hold back and aggravate injury - different in a match - adrenaline may get you through a match but you will feel it afterwards...Would be surprised if he makes it through the week but lets wait and hope :)
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Its a known fact that Rafa hits a lot harder in practice than he does in matches, so if Rafa is fine in practice then he'll have absolutely no problem in matches.
Sounds like you'll be surprised everyday :)
 
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octobrina10

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@Cupcake
@irishnadalfan1983
@Amritia

The Rafa team is doing what they promised to do. "Nadal's serve is 80%" means his practice intensity.

November 5:
Rafa: "Hello everyone. Yesterday [Monday], I had an MRI scan in Mallorca and, despite having a small strain in the right abdominal muscle, I will travel to London. On Thursday or Friday, I will start adapting to the service. The idea is to be able to play the ATP World Tour Finals in London. Thanks for the support!" (Translated from Spanish via Google)

November 8:
Rafa told BBC Sport he only started serving "very slowly" on Thursday following the injury [an abdominal muscle strain].
"But I really hope I will be able to serve every single day a little better and my hope is to be serving normally on Sunday," he said.

November 9:
Carlos Moyá: “He [Rafa] is progressing every day a little more."
Moyá acknowledged that he [Rafa] is “at 80%” and that tomorrow [Sunday] he will try a little more and so on until his debut on Monday.
 
octobrina10

octobrina10

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Rafa Nadal Foundation

This weekend, Rafa's foundation held the fifth edition of the More Than Tennis tournament, where around 150 children & teenagers with intellectual disabilities from different parts of Spain participated.

The More than Tennis project was estabilished in collaboration with Special Olympics Spain in 2010 to promote sport among children and young people with intellectual disabilities. The tournament, held every two years, was hosted by Rafa's academy this year.

The winners were presented with medals by Maria Francisca (aka Xisca, the Director of Strategy and Institutional Relations of the foundation) at the closing ceremony that took place on Sunday:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1193479700405989377





www.cope.es

La Rafa Nadal Academy acoge la quinta edición de Más que Tenis

El proyecto Más que Tenis, que promueve especialmente la integración de deportistas con discapacidad, se celebrará entre el 8 y 10 de Noviembre
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(y)to Rafa's foundation
 
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Raphael Nadal

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octobrina10 said:
ATP Finals

November 10, 2019

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1193529970099924992
Translated from Spanish:
José Morón (a journalist): “Carlos Moyà confirms that Nadal is "in optimal conditions" to play tomorrow. He felt good during today’s training..."

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I would have thought a post like this would have 20+ likes, but only 3 so far.
Then again, a bunch of Rafa's "fans" :) have spent the last week trying to convince everyone that Rafa won't even be fit to play Zverev....
 
Sabrina

Sabrina

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Any news about Rafa? What about his preparation for today match against Zverev? Hopefully he is perfectly healthy this time.
 
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