Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by bolo, Mar 9, 2010.
Fixed it for you.
In this thread it was mostly Nadal fans, but you're right, overall Murray gets disrespected by lots of different fans.
Uhmm, Nadal actually does give credit to his opponents.
dropshot winner said, "I'm not a fan of Murray, but I can't stand they way some Nadal fans disrespect him."
All players are disrespected at times, Nadal probably more than most. I am not
saying it's OK to disrespect anyone who has worked hard to be where they are, but in this case wasn't the disrespect started by the person who made the above quote?, in what is, a Nadal News thread. He/she just couldn't miss an opportunity to disrespect Nadal.
^^ I didn't start it. Murray was called a pusher in a Nadal thread, which was uncalled for, because he clearly isn't a pusher. Therefore, I posted in this thread.
Edit: here you go:
I don't think that Murray is disrespected. There's no reason for it.
Who cares if some people disrespect Nadal, Murray or any other player for that matter? Some people will do that regardless. Bottom line, Nadal and Murray needs to figure how to get back in the winning circle especially in the GS. At their age, they are in their primes. Instead, it's an aging married father of twins that's doing more damage in the grand stages.
If you think my opinion is far from being truth that you are kind of fooling yourself, mate.
I didn't once say that pushing is bad. If it what makes him win some of his matches, than good for him.
He's a very successful player, he doesn't need fans to protect his "legacy" on the internet.
Nadal and Murray are both pushers/moonballers. Big deal. They both win.
Let's hope Murray can push himself to win the USO this year. Would be hilarious if Cilic won a slam before Murray.
Pusher = Grinder. They are the same. They both wait for the other player to make a mistake to win a majority of their points. Boring tennis.
Nadal has beaten Fed SIX times at the slams. That is why he is the most bashed player.
Nope. Because HC is his worst surface. His second best surface is grass hence the 3 Wimbledon finals vs just 1 final at a HC slam vs 4 finals at RG. His best surface has always and will always be clay. Unfortunately for Nadal the ATP tour is mostly HC and that is why he can go for many months without winning a title. He is the only top 10 player whose best surface is clay. So he is handicapped by this. All the other top 10 players best surface is HC.
The whoa is me victim game does not work with Nadal. He thrives on intimidation. I used to "feel" for him. Really was a fan but after 2009 Australian I have a feeling things are not as they seem with him and his camp. Watched him run like a gazzelle never getting tired but with his losses he is always fatigued or injured....
The reason why he is so called "bashed" is due to:
1) constant excuses when he loses by his camp and his "fans".
2) Missed freaking WIMBLEDON after playing EXOS!
3) Was "tired out" when he lost at Madrid 2009 yet played like a mad man all through French 2008-Wimby 2008. Never tired then. Also was nevert tired out winning all those years during the Clay-Wimby season.
4) Ran around never tired during the 2009 Australian open run.
5) Has massive amounts of time "off" during the hard court seasons due to "injuries".
6) Always is back to raring and ready to go after so called "massive career threatening injuries".
7) Never loses only is "injured".
8) He is/was 100% then loses and is/was not 100%.
9) He might be on Dr. Fuentes list.
10) His "Fans" live in a weird fantasy Island world. You argue facts they Ad Hominen attack.
11) I could go on. Dont disrespect the game. He is playing hard. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
Really? Then explain why he didn't defend his AO title this year?
Sir Zagor ... was Emerson a better player than Laver?!
Thing is, Murray is ALSO a bad matchup for Fed... But Murray has not taken advantage of this by beating Fed at a slam. What a conundrum
Ed ... speaking of ass-kissing, I have to say that if the male Federer lovers on this forum had a habit of wearing lipstick, Federer's a*rse would be plum-red! LOL!
But wait werent the Nadal fans saying he was going to win 10 or more slams? He was going to dominate on all surfaces? The season is too long for him? But now he is not good on hardcourts?
What the hell is it! Man the mind games are massive with Nadal. No wonder the chicks dig him. They love drama and mind games. LOL! And they slammed Drak 4 being immature.
SIX.....the same number of GS titles and *******s think having a favorable H2H against Federer entitles him to be discussed as one of the over all greatest ever.
Rafa's name is buried under an avalanche of names.
Also he is a Gemini. The twins.......
Typical glory hunting response from a *******. :YAWN:
I hope for once thats not the case. Its true what you pointed out. All im saying is there are other things to talk about besides that.
Glory hunting for a player that has the most GS singles titles in HISTORY of men's tennis? LOL yeah ok let's go with that.
really? then why don't you point that out to the posters I responded to, who is the one that brought it up? :roll:
Nadal is so endearing to people. He is a true, humble champion.
I have this feeling he is going to win the French and Wimbledon this year again. He might just get 2 the US Open final 2.
I have a feeling that as soon as he suffers his first defeat, he'll be "injured, fatigued, out of shape, etc".
You guys really have nothing better to do? Or anything constructive to add to the forum?? How sad...
For the nadal fans in this thread.
Interesting facial expression:
Holy crap, the guy above me has over 18 thousand posts on a tennis message board, you must be a fanatic
How is Federer's "lung infection" going? Watch for it to get worse as the odds of facing Nadal increase.
He'll be fine then.
Thats a given! LOL! I tuned out to them after AO09!
Don't worry, Roger would make slam semis with a broken leg.
Unfortunately I also gotta agree with this. In the Aussie he said he was 100% but as soon as he was losing to Murray his knees magically started acting up. Idk if its coincidence but it is suspicious.
Fed has never ducked Nadal. He has always been there. Win, lose, draw or choke.
Nadal is the prima donna skipping WIMBLEDON, playing soccer and making out in Videos when he supposed to be "injured". LOL!
In his defense making out doesn't have anything to do with his injury...unless he used his knees for pity sex then the man is a genius
This thread is seriously derailed to an often discussed topic.
Some familiar pi...uh faces in that picture.
HOW DARE HE SKIP WIMBLEDON!
What! You mean *you've* never made out while injured? :twisted:
Not nearly as easily compared as those times were torn with amateur and pro competition,there are just too many factors involved to make the comparison so simple.
But Fed and Nadal have played under absolute same conditions(surfaces,opponents etc.)so the comparison is much,much more simpler.
So far since Nadal won his first slam in 2005 he has been 2nd to Fed each year but one(2008 )so if he is clearly a better player then he should have no difficulty piling up the numbers Fed did in the next few years,heck if he's better he should achieve more but I'll go easy on him and say he's better if he equals Fed's achievements or even if he comes somewhat near.
What that means is:
-Nadal needs to finish 4 more years as #1
-Have a year in which he wins 3 slams(Fed had 3 of those)
-Win USO to complete his career slam like Fed did(and I don't care who he beats in the final to win it,he can beat Spadea for all I care)
-Win 8-10 more slams,that's considering that Fed won't add to his tally in the meantime of course.
Better player should have no trouble equaling or exceeding the feats lesser player accomplished given the fact that as I said they play under same conditions and against the same opposition(something which was not the case in Laver vs Emerson for example),heck he should have no trouble atleast coming close.
LMAO! Hilarious,I'm putting this as my desktop background.
:-? This thread is just a shame. You, *******s, do have a problem. You can't even respect injuries. :| I'm really tired of this forum. No mod here?
Depends on the type of injury
It's pathetic really. Who cares who's better? Some people like Nadal and some people like Fed. I don't understand why it's a problem at all.
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