Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by underground, Dec 28, 2012.
QFT. Pretty simple. Fed won more slams than Nadal has WHILE NADAL WAS PLAYING. STOP THE GARBAGE.
She is just hurt because her little **** is being picked on and with good reason here. Boo hoo!
Is it a cheap slam for anyone who wins it? There is no need to be bitter, just ignore the people who are kicking Nadal when he's down.
It is my fault anyway. We were having a practice session and I kept hitting behind Rafa to try and wrong foot him when he injured the knee again. I was also sick when we shared a water bottle.
It is definitely true that "some" fed fans are giddy with happiness and relief that rafa is not playing, that way atleast the H2H doesn't become even worse. Fed winning the slam or not is an other thing.
These are the fans who are pretty much convinced that rafa is in Fed's head and hence doesn't stand a chance against him.
Nadal really gets into the heads of Talk Tennis posters. I can't wait for Acapulco2013. Nadal is a true master of drama, on the court and off the court.
You think he is actually going to show up there? LOL.
And just look at the power Nadal has over Talk Tennis (credit to RAFA2005RG for screenshotting this)-
But you said Nadal would surely win AO2013.
He meant 2009.
Come on now, there are some Fed fans that enjoy kicking him when he'd down now and *most* silent ban threads/posts are coming from Fed fans, now that may not be saying much given that most posters on this forum are indeed Fed fans but it's undeniable some of them are biased against Nadal (not saying you are) and many of us make a heat in the moment comments/posts when arguing with trolls.
That said, Nadal is not more important than tennis itself (no single player is), there aren't any bonus points awarded for beating Nadal to win the tourney or winning the tourney with him in the field, If he isn't able to participate the game moves on, there's no waiting for anybody.
Furthemore next slam isn't FO, it's AO and Nadal is neither the guy with the most AO trophies in the field nor the defending champion.
To be fair to Crisstti, if she posted that as a general comment, I would be annoyed, but she was responding to *******/nadal haters and I can forgive someone for doing that, because I sometimes post anti Nadal stuff in response to certain troll posters, but it's not my real point of view,or at least it's a more extreme version of an opinion.
I know posting this way is maybe not the right thing to do, but we're human and if some **** is shoving stuff in your face, it's human to respond in kind. So yeah I don't like or agree with the comment but I understand why she posted it and I don't blame her.
Who is Rafael Nadal?
good post there
lol. great one liner
How much practice does Nadal need? Or perhaps he needs all of 2013 to get him prepared for the 2014 Australian Open.
Zagor I agree with you that many Fed fans enjoy abusing Nadal and say a lot of silly things but what bothers me about Crisstti is that with her you can't say anything negative about Nadal because if you do you are automatically branded a hater. That kind of logic is stupid imo. Not only can you not say anything negative about Nadal, you have to adore him or else you are a hater in her eyes. I can't stand any type of obsessive fan adoration from any fan base. For me these guys are all human beings and none of them are perfect.
I have never seen her say one even remotely negative thing about Nadal, she is unable to do so and if another person does say anything negative about Nadal, that person is a hater. Yet she has no problem saying negative and unfounded things about Federer, that is ok. Isn't she a hater too according to her book of rules? Even veronique, one of the biggest Federer haters on here, will admit that Federer's achievements are second to none in many areas.
Give Nadal the benefit - perhaps he is sick with a stomach bug, maybe his knee is bothering him or maybe his girlfriend is about to have a baby and he's been locked in his bedroom and can't find a way out.
Oh I can understand why she posted it and realize it was in response to a poster who hates Nadal, that is fine. I often post anti-Nadal stuff in response to a poster who is a Fed-hater, that is human nature for sure.
With Crisstti as I have said above, it bothers me that one can't say anything negative about Nadal at all and one has to believe everything that comes out of Nadal's mouth as she does. If one does not believe what comes out of Nadal's mouth, one is a hater according to her. How silly is that? I say if you don't believe everything that comes out of Nadal's mouth you are intelligent, not a hater!
Nadal could play at the AO.
He may not be at top level but being afraid to not do well isn't a good reason.
I'd rather see a good effort with poor results.
Oh I agree with that, but I think what she said in the post you quoted was because of some posts which were plainly anti nadal, and I can understand at the particular time she would be more wound up. I have before asked whether she ever criticised Nadal for anything no matter how small. I don't think she does apart from him fishing - but she's not a ****, definitely not hateful. She is better than saying anti whoever comments, but if people goad you into it enough, it will happen.
Muster left tennis suddenly after the 1999 French Open, at the age of 31, without saying a word to anyone. He just quietly disappeared and stopped going to tournaments. Courier retired at 29 years old in May 2000. Players like Rafter and Sampras played into the early 2000s, but didn't exactly retire in their late 30s. Vilas heavily reduced his schedule when he got into the mid and late 1980s, as he started getting well into his 30s. Out of the big players, only Connors has really managed to play into his late 30s and beyond in the era of a big amount of hardcourt tournaments on tour (since the mid-late 1970s). Before the mid-late 1970s, a lot of players were able to play into their 40s.
Not sure I can agree completely with you there. She may not be outwardly hateful on a consistent basis but the hate resides deep inside of her and comes out for special occasions.
Saying plain dumb things, because you believe them, is better, than openly trolling? Look at my signature.
She has done a fair bit of hating, too. Actually, the snide remarcs, that she, veroniquem and vernonbc are doing all the time, while pushing the victim mentality, is distasteful and disgusting.
Shame he's out. I much prefer having the "top four" all on deck.
I don't think she's like vero and worst of all VBC.But whatever, that's just my persona experience.
I do agree that quote you have in your sig is laughable, but she will defend Nadal on everything. But I've not really found her to be hateful in the past.. I could be wrong.
Cmon guys, forget about Nadal. He is gone. Focus on Insanely exciting Australian open warnup tournaments starting today.
You mean top two? The era of Fedal is over, Murrovic is the new king of the hill.
This gives up-and-coming players a chance. However, as Hewitt mentioned, the new guys "aren't doing anything at the moment". Del Potro's time, maybe?
Prepare the eulogy for tennis then.
Fixed it for you. )
Ok, that works too.
Idk, maybe you should ask him. And yeah, 2 weeks = 1 year.
Why do you want players playing till the late 30s? Professional tennis will always (and should always) be dominated by players in their 20s, and then have a few players in their early 30s playing, but probably not in the top10. There are very few other sports where players play till their late 30s.
The problem right now is you have players like Nadal whose careers look like they will end in their mid-20s. That is not a good situation and will hurt tennis long term.
Nadal has been on tour for almost a full decade now. Everybody forgets that he was an early bloomer.
Really? lol...I have talked to her many times and she is genuinely a nice person.At the end of the day,if trools are going nuts you got to flip and let your darker side out.
Nadal will probably lose some weight and strength in the near term. It could affect his play after he comes back.
To be fair, you can't blame the decent Nadal fans to lose their cool. It's really hard for them to take. It really hurts to see that their hero is not playing for such a long time. And even in such a thread you have the multiple accounts of NSK posting nonsense and inviting anti Nadal posts. Then there are some Federer fans who are rubbing salt into the wounds. In the midst of all these its quite normal to lose control.
Of course Mustard, I agree with your points. But making the courts fast, at least the ones which used to be fast earlier would also helps. I am sure you would agree that six hour long matches aren't quite helpful in lonegvity of career
I agree with you. Crisstti is normally a good poster. She just lost her cool with some trolls who are taking joy out Nadal's career being in tatters. She's maybe a little too optimistic about Nadal, but she's pretty cool to me.
Check out posts 397 and 398. Crissti has said that the above poster is a hater when that guy posted a gif of Rosol winning the match and Federer laughing. That gif was actually a response to NSK's nonsense of Rafa winning AO 2013. It's a forum, if someone makes absolute statements like a player X is winning and if it doesn't happens obviously someone may quote. Also NSK just invites these kind of anti Nadal posts. I am not saying that there aren't Federer fans who deliberately rub salt into the wounds as there are some who do that. NSK also has significant contribution to this mess. I do think that Crisstti is a good poster
I'm beginning to doubt that NSK is even a Nadal fan at all.
What were you just saying about stupidity? :roll:
A up and coming young player, who is #15 in the world is nobody?
By the same logic (that you use) I could say, that the Nadal-Djokovic rivalry should be reviewed only from 2011 onwards, because the best Djokovic was not playing before that.
I am sure, that you wouldn't mind, right?
Oh, and, 2007 WAS Djokovic's break-through year.
Novak hasn't taken a set off Fed since AO went plexicushion. Expect that fact to remain should they meet again.
Except that the fact isn't a fact. Novak took 3 sets off Roger in the 2008 and 2011 AO semi finals.
Maybe you meant it the other way round?
Christ, that dude sounds like a confused Rafa Benitez.
The speed and bounce of the AO courts is pretty horrible for Roger. It gives Novak time to wind up those massive swings while still allowing him to hit through the court.
I think Murray-Federer would be a far closer/more interesting match-up.
Hey Joe - hope you are well mate.
I'd like to see Murray v Roger again at the AO as well. Although it's six and 2 threes as to whether I want Murray to face Roger or Nole in the semis.
I'm pretty sure I know which seed you'd like Roger to draw in the semis!
Aye not so bad thanks mate, hope you're keeping well yourself.
Haha, I've got my preference, yes! I think Roger will probably make the final given that there's no Rafa, but would still be far from comfortable were it Murray rather than Nole staring at him across the net!
LOL Yep, meant it the other way around....
True, but I don't understand why people keep responding to him. Just ignore every single post he makes no matter what it is. Falling for his trolling isn't helping anything. It just causes strife between relatively good posters, which is exactly what he's hoping to do to keep the crap stirred up.
You're right because he is not a Nadal fan at all. Someone once said they think he's a previously banned Fed fan, and I think they're probably right.
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