Nadal plays non mandatory event, complains about schedule

aphex

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Did I ever say it did? There's nothing to explain. Do your posts always make sense? No. You are the master of the non sequitur.

All you need to know is that Nadal has been injured. That is a fact.

^^Ask laptop girl, she has all the answers.

mods, this is clearly a previously banned poster.

he's already annoyed us by clogging up the boards in his new guise.

kindly ban him again...
 

TheLoneWolf

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mods, this is clearly a previously banned poster.

he's already annoyed us by clogging up the boards in his new guise.

kindly ban him again...
Yes, bring out the torches and the pitchforks. Kill him! Kill him!

Which poster are you referring to? If you are going to make an accusation, you might as well be up front about it, instead of throwing the stone and hiding your hand like a coward.

I'm sure the mods can cross check my IP against their database.

You, sir, are a... You know what you are.
 

aphex

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Yes, bring out the torches and the pitchforks. Kill him! Kill him!

Which poster are you referring to? If you are going to make an accusation, you might as well be up front about it, instead of throwing the stone and hiding your hand like a coward.

I'm sure the mods can cross check my IP against their database.

You, sir, are a... You know what you are.

i have no idea who you are nor do i care.

but it's obvious you're a previously banned poster.
 
After a series of investigations, I managed to find "the laptop girl" :shock:

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Rippy

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i have no idea who you are nor do i care.

but it's obvious you're a previously banned poster.

He used some familiar "laugh" in another thread... like he ended his post with "hihihihihi hahahaha"... There was some other poster who did that, but I'm not sure if he got banned or not. Sampras fan, can't quite place his username.
 

TheLoneWolf

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He used some familiar "laugh" in another thread... like he ended his post with "hihihihihi hahahaha"... There was some other poster who did that, but I'm not sure if he got banned or not. Sampras fan, can't quite place his username.
Yes, I used that laugh because it's funny. I guess if two people use the same laugh you can conclude they are the same person? Wow, brilliant conclusion. You should join the FBI.

HA
HAHA

Me a Sampras fan?

HIHIHIHI
HOHOHOHO
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 

Rippy

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Yes, I used that laugh because it's funny. I guess if two people use the same laugh you can conclude they are the same person? Wow, brilliant conclusion. You should join the FBI.

HA
HAHA

Me a Sampras fan?

HIHIHIHI
HOHOHOHO
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Hehe, well I didn't believe it was conclusive proof by any means. :p
 

tacou

G.O.A.T.
Nadal played Monte Carlo (non mandatory), entered Barcelona (also non mandatory) starting the next week, withdraws from Barcelona and blames his withdrawal on the poorly structured tournament schedule.

:confused::confused::confused:

Yes Rafa, it is poorly structured if you intend to play every event, every week, even when you don't have to.

Sorry if I sound angry but it really bothers me how much he and other players complain about the schedule while simultaneously playing non mandatory events and not taking responsibility for setting their own schedule.

http://tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=5009&zoneid=4

true, but find a time for hard courts wehre it goes Masters, 500, Masters, Masters, SLam
 
true, but find a time for hard courts wehre it goes Masters, 500, Masters, Masters, SLam

For clay it's

NM MS - Monte Carlo
NM 500 - Barcelona
Mand MS - Rome
NM 250 - Belgrade/Estoril/etc
M MS - Madrid
NM 250 - Dusseldorf etc
GS - Roland Garros

For HC its

NM 250 Atlanta
NM 250 Los Angeles
NM 500 Washington
M MS - Canada
M MS - Cincy
NM 250 - New Haven
GS - US Open

So on HC you theoretically could play 500 Washington, MS Canada, MS Cincy, and have only 1 week off for the USO. On clay things are actually a lot more spread out (MC and Barca aren't mandatory, so you could choose to play either or, then there's a week between Mandatory Rome and Madrid, then a week between Madrid and RG). Which is why the people who say "the clay schedule is crammed" are so wrong - sure it's crammed if you want to play every freaking event like Nadal wants to when he doesn't need to.

And to the people saying it's so hard to pull out of Mandatory MS events - Roddick just pulled from Rome, citing "personal reasons". I'm sure Nadal could pull from more than a few events by using his knees as a valid excuse. So that ends that argument right there.
 

reversef

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For clay it's

NM MS - Monte Carlo
NM 500 - Barcelona
Mand MS - Rome
NM 250 - Belgrade/Estoril/etc
M MS - Madrid
NM 250 - Dusseldorf etc
GS - Roland Garros

For HC its (is it really the HC season? I didn't know that Bercy or Indian Wells for example were played on another surface. Shame on me, I had not noticed it was clay)

NM 250 Atlanta
NM 250 Los Angeles
NM 500 Washington
M MS - Canada
M MS - Cincy
NM 250 - New Haven
GS - US Open

So on HC you theoretically could play 500 Washington, MS Canada, MS Cincy, and have only 1 week off for the USO. On clay things are actually a lot more spread out (MC and Barca aren't mandatory, so you could choose to play either or, then there's a week between Mandatory Rome and Madrid, then a week between Madrid and RG). Which is why the people who say "the clay schedule is crammed" are so wrong - sure it's crammed if you want to play every freaking event like Nadal wants to when he doesn't need to.

And to the people saying it's so hard to pull out of Mandatory MS events - Roddick just pulled from Rome, citing "personal reasons". I'm sure Nadal could pull from more than a few events by using his knees as a valid excuse. So that ends that argument right there.

How many HC events a year does the average top player enter? How many clay events? Pretty much the same, I guess. Can't you see that there is only one clay moment for top players? The south-american season is good for other ones, but not for top-players, and the last few clay tournaments after Wimbledon are not easy to play either. Roddick plays on HC from january till april and from july till november. Big difference.
 
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How many HC events a year does the average top player enter? How many clay events? Pretty much the same, I guess. Can't you see that there is only one clay moment for top players? The south-american season is good for other ones, but not for top-players, and the last few clay tournaments after Wimbledon are not easy to play either. Roddick plays on HC from january till april and from july till november. Big difference.

There's two slams on HC. Of course there's going to be more HC events due to that fact. If you're saying there needs to be more clay, oh please. If anything there needs to be more grass. That's something we all can agree on. But saying there's not enough CC events is absurd.
 

nfor304

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How many HC events a year does the average top player enter? How many clay events? Pretty much the same, I guess. Can't you see that there is only one clay moment for top players? The south-american season is good for other ones, but not for top-players, and the last few clay tournaments after Wimbledon are not easy to play either. Roddick plays on HC from january till april and from july till november. Big difference.

Who asked any of the clay court specialists to be clay court specialist? The tour has ALWAYS had the same major claycourt event and roughly the same number of clay tournaments since the 60's, except for the brief period when the USopen was on clay. Nobody told these guys, "hey, you can only play well on clay" and forced them to only practice on clay. The clay court schedule has been the same for a VERY long time now. If anyone should be complaining about the surfaces it is the grass court and fast court specialists. Since at the beginning of the open era 3 slams were on grass and 1 on clay, and now 2 of those slams are on hard and the grass season is only 1 month they should be pretty pissed off. Indoor carpet has completely disappeared as an ATP surface.

You dont hear Robin Soderling or Ivo Karlovic complaining about it every time the Paris Masters rolls around.

Not to mention the fact that many of the so called clay court specialists have had their best results on hard, like Ferrer, Robredo, Verdasco, Del Potro, Nalbandian on grass, even Ferrero has reached a USopen final.

Why should the tour have to change the surfaces of any tournaments to appease certain players? The players knew exactly what the tour was like before they became pro's. Its not the tours fault they haven't learned how to play on hard or grass.

You keep saying the tour has too much hardcourt and is skewed towards hardcourt specialists. So what if it is. Stop whinging and start developing your hardcourt skills.
 
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reversef

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There's two slams on HC. Of course there's going to be more HC events due to that fact. If you're saying there needs to be more clay, oh please. If anything there needs to be more grass. That's something we all can agree on. But saying there's not enough CC events is absurd.
Why? Because YOU don't like it. Others do. I mainly watch tennis during the clay season. The rest tends to bore me. Big servers and brainless ballbashers are unwatchable for me. Each one his own. 25 years of watching tennis and I never changed my mind, so I don't think that I will one day.
The funny thing is that I hate playing on clay myself. I hate brainless ballbashers, but I'm unfortunately one of them. :)
 

mandy01

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Why? Because YOU don't like it. Others do. I mainly watch tennis during the clay season. The rest tends to bore me. Big servers and brainless ballbashers are unwatchable for me. Each one his own. 25 years of watching tennis and I never changed my mind, so I don't think that I will one day.
The funny thing is that I hate playing on clay myself. I hate brainless ballbashers, but I'm unfortunately one of them. :)
"brainless ballshers"....ahh...of course.ROFL :lol:
 
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reversef

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Who asked any of the clay court specialists to be clay court specialist? The tour has ALWAYS had the same major claycourt event and roughly the same number of clay tournaments since the 60's, except for the brief period when the USopen was on clay. Nobody told these guys, "hey, you can only play well on clay" and forced them to only practice on clay. The clay court schedule has been the same for a VERY long time now. If anyone should be complaining about the surfaces it is the grass court and fast court specialists. Since at the beginning of the open era 3 slams were on grass and 1 on clay, and now 2 of those slams are on hard and the grass season is only 1 month they should be pretty pissed off. Indoor carpet has completely disappeared as an ATP surface.

You dont hear Robin Soderling or Ivo Karlovic complaining about it every time the Paris Masters rolls around.

Not to mention the fact that many of the so called clay court specialists have had their best results on hard, like Ferrer, Robredo, Verdasco, Del Potro, Nalbandian on grass, even Ferrero has reached a USopen final.

Why should the tour have to change the surfaces of any tournaments to appease certain players? The players knew exactly what the tour was like before they became pro's. Its not the tours fault they haven't learned how to play on hard or grass.

You keep saying the tour has too much hardcourt and is skewed towards hardcourt specialists. So what if it is. Stop whinging and start developing your hardcourt skills.

First thing: you perfectly know that there used to be an american clay court season ( Indianapolis, Washington, ... Cincinnati is a very old tournament and was played on green clay till something like 1980.) And not only during the years of the clay court USO. Now, EVEN the south-american tournaments are going to be played on HC. So, don't tell me that HC is not taking the place of the other surfaces.
Second thing: What you could show is a little respect for Europe. Basically, our surface is not HC. And in some countries, the majority of the courts are still clay courts. It's not because Americans exclusively play on HC for a question of money that the rest of the world has to do the same.
Third thing: you can complain about the slowing down of the surfaces, but HC is still called "fast surface", which means that the players play on fast surfaces almost the whole year. You can see that it's fast by the number of aces and winning serves (disgusting) and all the ballbashing that is absolutely impossible on a slow surface.
 
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reversef

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Since at the beginning of the open era 3 slams were on grass and 1 on clay, and now 2 of those slams are on hard and the grass season is only 1 month they should be pretty pissed off. Indoor carpet has completely disappeared as an ATP surface.

The grass of the AO was so fast that Vilas "Grass is for cows" loved it. Wilander too.
I've never watched a match played on the grass of the USO, but from what I heard, it was even slower. The current HC are maybe faster.
 
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Why? Because YOU don't like it. Others do. I mainly watch tennis during the clay season. The rest tends to bore me. Big servers and brainless ballbashers are unwatchable for me. Each one his own. 25 years of watching tennis and I never changed my mind, so I don't think that I will one day.
The funny thing is that I hate playing on clay myself. I hate brainless ballbashers, but I'm unfortunately one of them. :)

No it's not because I don't like it. Objectively speaking, the number of CC events is good considering there's only 1 slam played on it. If anything there should be more grass and indoors events, not more clay. The clay season is fine as is, if anything there should be more GC events. That's just being objective, nothing about my like or dislike for clay involved.
 

Anaconda

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:confused: Do you consider that there is no player like that on the tour?

I would rather James Blake or Tsonga win a slam than guys who play pure defensive. The game has gone back a few notches and less winners get hit. Of course you love to watch people hit unforced errors instead of guys painting lines.
 
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:confused: Do you consider that there is no player like that on the tour?

like beating the crap out of a ball with flat strokes painting the lines is easier that looping crap over to the other side of the net like the armada boys do or Simon...
 

Anaconda

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like beating the crap out of a ball with flat strokes painting the lines is easier that looping crap over to the other side of the net like the armada boys do or Simon...

Actually guys like Ferrer and Simon don't 'loop' balls over the net. Ferrer hits quite flat quite similar to Hewitt. Simon although is a counterpuncher can finish dead balls. Guys like Roddick are more guilty for just looping groundies over the net.
 

reversef

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I would rather James Blake or Tsonga win a slam than guys who play pure defensive. The game has gone back a few notches and less winners get hit. Of course you love to watch people hit unforced errors instead of guys painting lines.
No, I don't like to watch people hit unforced errors. That's why I don't like Blake or Tsonga. And I don't see any top player who plays pure defensive.
 

reversef

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like beating the crap out of a ball with flat strokes painting the lines is easier that looping crap over to the other side of the net like the armada boys do or Simon...

Not easier, not more difficult either. If there was an easy way to play the game, all the players would adopt that style.
 

Anaconda

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No, I don't like to watch people hit unforced errors. That's why I don't like Blake or Tsonga. And I don't see any top player who plays pure defensive.

Andy Murray plays pure defensive. Anyway the game has gone back a step in the wrong direction, less winners are hit, less S&V due to the surfaces slowing down etc. Chang won the French Open by playing a pure defensive game.
 

reversef

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No it's not because I don't like it. Objectively speaking, the number of CC events is good considering there's only 1 slam played on it. If anything there should be more grass and indoors events, not more clay. The clay season is fine as is, if anything there should be more GC events. That's just being objective, nothing about my like or dislike for clay involved.

And the number of HC events? Is it fair? Considering that the natural surfaces were there much before HC and that HC kill the players' bodies, is it normal to have so many events played on the surface?
 

reversef

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Andy Murray plays pure defensive. Anyway the game has gone back a step in the wrong direction, less winners are hit, less S&V due to the surfaces slowing down etc. Chang won the French Open by playing a pure defensive game.

You won't be able to convince a Mats Wilander's fan that Murray plays pure defensive tennis. He mixes up the game.
 
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