Nadal pulls out of Thailand Open

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Morrissey

Guest
Yes his one trick is winning on ONE surface. Troll.

At least he wins on something. Something that other players haven´t done in Fed´s era. I guess they have no trick then. One dimensional game, 3 dimensional Grand Slam titles and 8 dimensional wins over your lover boy Fed.
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
Of course that would include Gonzalez who won the AO, oh wait he was runner up, Robredo who won the USO, oh no he only made the semis, Berdych who went out in the semis at Madrid, the guy who beat him in Cincinnati. We'll see how well he does when next year his ranking drops like a stone and he has to face these guys in the first round of Hard court tournies.

See the difference is that those guys just have one decent result and never repeat those. Also Gonzo and Robredo are older than Nadal. Nadal has at least made the QF´s of every slam before the age of 21. 3 Slams and two Wimby finals as well. You talk like he´s 32 and he can´t accomplish more in his career. There´s more positive results to come in the future.
 

seestern

Rookie
See the difference is that those guys just have one decent result and never repeat those. Also Gonzo and Robredo are older than Nadal. Nadal has at least made the QF´s of every slam before the age of 21. 3 Slams and two Wimby finals as well. You talk like he´s 32 and he can´t accomplish more in his career. There´s more positive results to come in the future.

The guy ninman is really tricky pony. He just keep riping Nadal constantly. He is promising to be like the most famous fan of Graf. You do still remember what the fan did?
 

2 Cent

Rookie
good. as a Nadal fan, i was concerned that his knees might cut his career way too short if he doesn't take more time off to recuperate.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Well you just`picked up the double standard in here. It´s ok to rip and downplay Nadal´s achievements but if you take a cut into Fed only then is it considered trolling.

Now I'm no Nadal hater but Canas and Volandri can't be mentioned along Gonzo,Blake and Youzhny,because those guys defeated Nadal in a slam,slams are top priority for both Nadal and Fed and they are much harder to beat there,I agree with you about Gonzo,I don't think he'll ever play that well again
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Yes his one trick is winning on ONE surface. Troll.

He has 3 masters shields on hardcourt at 21 age,there are hardcourt specialists who don't achieve that much and he has two Wimby finals in a row,pushing Fed big time in the second,you could argue he had easy draw, it's a fluke or whatever if he made it once,but twice in a row at 21 is very impressive
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
He has 3 masters shields on hardcourt at 21 age,there are hardcourt specialists who don't achieve that much and he has two Wimby finals in a row,pushing Fed big time in the second,you could argue he had easy draw, it's a fluke or whatever if he made it once,but twice in a row at 21 is very impressive

ninman could be federerfanatic in disguise
 

ninman

Hall of Fame
I love the way everyone talks about him "pushing" Federer. If you lose, you lose, it doesn't matter how well you played. On the same note, it doesn't matter how badly you play as long as you win. Nadal is obviously a great clay courter, but that doesn't make him a great player. You're the ones that seem to want to take the oppurtunity to suck off Nadal any chance you get.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
It means they think I'm someone else, because I like Federer, and hate Nadal.

Why do you hate Nadal? If you are Federer fan you should appreciate the rivalry,every all time great needs a rival to push him and Fed himself has huge respect for Nadal
 

ninman

Hall of Fame
Why do you hate Nadal? If you are Federer fan you should appreciate the rivalry,every all time great needs a rival to push him and Fed himself has huge respect for Nadal

1) I hate people or things that are overhyped such as The Beatles, Harry Potter and Nadal.

2) He believes in winning at all costs, even if he has to bend or break the rules. What people call his "fighting spirit", is in fact a little boy inside him that can't stand losing and will do anything to try and win.

3) His only strategy is to pound the ball at his opponents backhand from the baseline, and I find it boring and frustrating because it seems to work, and if it doesn't work he cries about it or insults his opponents. e.g. Berdych after Madrid last year.
 
M

Morrissey

Guest
You can now add Joker and Roddick to the list of guys not playing Thailand. It´s a meaningless tournament, just wait until Madrid to see some tennis again. That starts on Oct. 15th.
 
No surprise to see the players dropping like flies from Bangkok. Look for the same to happen in Paris, I bet nobody in the top 5 even shows up there. Madrid and the year end Masters are the only events to look for top guys, as well as Federer at Basel.
 

Balearic Rafa

New User
I love the way everyone talks about him "pushing" Federer. If you lose, you lose, it doesn't matter how well you played. On the same note, it doesn't matter how badly you play as long as you win. Nadal is obviously a great clay courter, but that doesn't make him a great player. You're the ones that seem to want to take the oppurtunity to suck off Nadal any chance you get.

You're a fool, I don't like you. You're a negative person. :( Nadal is only the best. Fo' sho! :p
 

coloskier

Legend
Nadal has simply not improved on hardcourt since 2005. If anything he's become worse on it. His injuries don't help either. He's won only 2 titles on hardcourt since Madrid 2005 and can't get past the quarterfinal stage at USO and AO. Things don't look great for him (on hardcourt that is, clay and grass is a different story).

I think there needs to be a caveat on the hard court statement. There is a huge difference between "fast" hard courts and "slow" hard courts. Nadal has a chance on any slow surface because of his speed and heavy topspin. On fast hard courts, until he makes it past the quarters in any fast hard court (low bounce, topspin negated by the surface) tournament I will withhold my judgment. And Wimbledon has become as slow as some slow hard courts, so don't use that as an analogy. The spring hard court season (Miami, Indian Wells) might as well be played on clay as slow and high bouncing as those surfaces are. Yes, I have played on those courts.
 

coloskier

Legend
No surprise to see the players dropping like flies from Bangkok. Look for the same to happen in Paris, I bet nobody in the top 5 even shows up there. Madrid and the year end Masters are the only events to look for top guys, as well as Federer at Basel.

They'll have to show up in Paris, it is a Masters Event and there are huge fines if they don't.
 
They'll have to show up in Paris, it is a Masters Event and there are huge fines if they don't.

Nope, the big fines dont begin until next year. Even if there were they still wont go I bet. If the ATP tries a battle of wills with its players the ATP will lose. There are too many tournaments required as it is.
 

phoony

Banned
Too many injuries coming at the end of the year. ATP should reschedule their calendar in 08 same goes to WTA.
 

TennezSport

Hall of Fame
Well said but............

I think there needs to be a caveat on the hard court statement. There is a huge difference between "fast" hard courts and "slow" hard courts. Nadal has a chance on any slow surface because of his speed and heavy topspin. On fast hard courts, until he makes it past the quarters in any fast hard court (low bounce, topspin negated by the surface) tournament I will withhold my judgment. And Wimbledon has become as slow as some slow hard courts, so don't use that as an analogy. The spring hard court season (Miami, Indian Wells) might as well be played on clay as slow and high bouncing as those surfaces are. Yes, I have played on those courts.

Coloskier,

Good point on the caveat for Nadal. But it also makes me think that Rafa really is a very flashy one trick pony (no flames as I like Rafa and think he's good for the sport). I have heard this point many times about slow HC vs fast HC and it makes me think that Rafa totally depends on his speed, topspin and determination to win matches. He has tried serving harder and that didn't work; tried hitting flatter and that didn't work(too many UEs). So, he goes back to what he is good at. He really does not have anything else to fall back on; no plan B or C. Just pump arm, look mean and run.

When I think about it this way, it does not look good for Rafa in the coming years. With big hitters on the rise, players now used to his court persona, more injuries per year and courts getting faster, it's looking to get more difficult for Nadal. Only time will tell though.

TennezSport :cool:
 
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