NeutralFan
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Come on, it's a well-known fact I am Judy. Everybody knows that!
I knew the way you tried to slay me i had my doubt confirmed
Nadal says injuries leave him in pain 'every single day'
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I knew the way you tried to slay me i had my doubt confirmed
RaulRamirez
Legend
So sorry that logic upsets you so much.
Mainad
Bionic Poster
a10best
Legend
Some people are just injury prone. Some players just play with the nagging injury that becomes painful..
Let's be real and not knock him for telling the truth.
www.espn.com
"Sania Mirza of India said she can't remember a time in the past 10 years when she didn't wake up with pain "
"If you don't have pains," Jankovic said, "it's weird. If you wake up in the morning and you don't have pain anymore, you haven't done a good job."
"The fact is that you want to win," Mirza said. "That's of primary importance, and hence you see us go out there and play while we're injured because playing and competing is so important to us.
It's his fault due to his playing style; grind out long points wear down your opponent and he is the one with a bad foot, or not breaking when he should at 0-40.
He needs to do like Serena; withdraw.
Let's be real and not knock him for telling the truth.
Isaacson: Pain just part of the game
In professional tennis, paychecks are dependent on playing matches, injured or not.
"Sania Mirza of India said she can't remember a time in the past 10 years when she didn't wake up with pain "
"If you don't have pains," Jankovic said, "it's weird. If you wake up in the morning and you don't have pain anymore, you haven't done a good job."
"The fact is that you want to win," Mirza said. "That's of primary importance, and hence you see us go out there and play while we're injured because playing and competing is so important to us.
It's his fault due to his playing style; grind out long points wear down your opponent and he is the one with a bad foot, or not breaking when he should at 0-40.
He needs to do like Serena; withdraw.
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NeutralFan
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Hate is a booster doze against logic
Giving logic to someone who has abandoned his reason is akin to administering medicine to a dead person.
MichaelNadal
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NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
No, he is a loser, and TTW males rule the world.Is Nadal an alpha male?
Born_to_slice
Legend
It's simple, he has a life...
NeutralFan
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mtommer
Hall of Fame
Mmmmmmmmm, I wonder about that. Playing injured is part of the pro life for the vast majority of top players, I'd wager, and it all adds up. Granted, they may not be debilitating but I'd guess that most people here wouldn't consider playing tennis let alone exercise if they dealt with what pros deal with on a daily basis.
SeeItHitIt
Professional
Getting old sux, si?
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Willing to make the ultimate sacrifice out there.
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
Yeah many of them are properly overtraining and overtaxing their bodies slowly but surely. And over many years, it will eventually take its toll on the body.
Still I think he's FOS with regard to being in a lot of pain. Or, like someone else said, he's regularly on strong painkillers.
octobrina10
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Federev
G.O.A.T.
Either Rafa is
A) lying
B) telling the truth
Given that he is a professional athlete who has been notoriously hard on his body and loves to compete and has had multiple injuries that have required him to take long breaks not competing (which he obviously loves to do) - I'd say the evidence is in his favor.
Usually, it would be impossible to know in a situation like this and given his record and the data points above most people would want to give him the benefit of the doubt...
But - given that TTW attracts the greatest psychics on the earth and ultra-gifted mind readers who can judge the motives and thoughts of all men, I say do a poll.
A) lying
B) telling the truth
Given that he is a professional athlete who has been notoriously hard on his body and loves to compete and has had multiple injuries that have required him to take long breaks not competing (which he obviously loves to do) - I'd say the evidence is in his favor.
Usually, it would be impossible to know in a situation like this and given his record and the data points above most people would want to give him the benefit of the doubt...
But - given that TTW attracts the greatest psychics on the earth and ultra-gifted mind readers who can judge the motives and thoughts of all men, I say do a poll.
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
I'm sure he is feeling less pain now he has seen Djokovic throw the kitchen sink against a sub par Alcaraz in altitude and still lose. One less rival to worry about at RG from his pov. I assume he watched the match today
After today it seems a nailed on certainty Rafa wins the slam race. Djokovic was absolutely cooked after 3 hours. And Alcaraz was poor today!!!
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
Actually I've defended Nadal quite a bit, like when I said he would have won the IW final against Fritz if he had more rest between the semi final and final:
Nadal would have won that match if there was a days rest between the SF and F, I'm sure of it
I'm absolutely sure of it. To go through an intense physical match 21 hours before, where he had to bend in all manner of positions due to the wind (probably how he pulled the muscles in his chest/ribs), then play another intense physical match 21 hours later. It's just asking too much for an...
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octobrina10
Bionic Poster
Rafa would have won the IW final if he hadn't suffered a stress fracture in his rib during the SF.Actually I've defended Nadal quite a bit, like when I said he would have won the IW final against Fritz if he had more rest between the semi final and final:
Nadal would have won that match if there was a days rest between the SF and F, I'm sure of it
I'm absolutely sure of it. To go through an intense physical match 21 hours before, where he had to bend in all manner of positions due to the wind (probably how he pulled the muscles in his chest/ribs), then play another intense physical match 21 hours later. It's just asking too much for an...
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
An injured Nadal still seems better than everyone else this year except maybe Alcaraz.
initialize
Hall of Fame
Or Fritz
Jokervich
Hall of Fame
And what was that stress fracture caused by: not enough rest days. Too much grueling tennis in a short period for an almost 36 year old man.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
His doctor (Angel Ruiz Cotorro, Rafa's doctor since Rafa was 14 - 15 years old) explained everything.
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Jokervich
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octobrina10
Bionic Poster
Yes, his "doctor"
Anyway I'm done with this conversation now.
I have to repeat: you trash talk Rafa whatever he does, so anything you say is irrelevant on any Rafa subject.
Dr. Angel Ruiz Cotorro:
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Rosstour
Talk Tennis Guru
At this point, the injury stories themselves have become the conspiracy theories.
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Honestly, I genuinely have grown to have affection and respect for Nadal but this thing of his really bugs me.
He's in pain because of a sport he CHOOSES to play at a high level and he reaps the rewards of doing so. If he wanted to he could stop playing the sport tomorrow and be in less pain. Is it vital to world peace that he plays tennis?
I've not forgotten Uncle Toni's ludicrous remark that went something like "Rafael's often said he would give up trophies to be in less pain." I mean what was it that was stopping him from... you know...actually doing that?
I don't think he does fake his injuries, I think he has some weird kind of masochism that enjoys this whole "martyr to pain" thing.
Most people who are in pain every day don't get a choice about it.
He's in pain because of a sport he CHOOSES to play at a high level and he reaps the rewards of doing so. If he wanted to he could stop playing the sport tomorrow and be in less pain. Is it vital to world peace that he plays tennis?
I've not forgotten Uncle Toni's ludicrous remark that went something like "Rafael's often said he would give up trophies to be in less pain." I mean what was it that was stopping him from... you know...actually doing that?
I don't think he does fake his injuries, I think he has some weird kind of masochism that enjoys this whole "martyr to pain" thing.
Most people who are in pain every day don't get a choice about it.
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octobrina10
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Hi, Fed devotee! You posted yet another evidence that your comrades have been trash talking Rafa for over a decade.... the one and only!
Is Dr. Angel Ruiz Cortorro feeling the heat ?
Is Dr. Angel Ruiz Cotorro feeling the heat ? The description for Dr. Angel Ruiz Cotorro's specialty has been changed from "licensed physician for completion of doping control" to "a specialist in sports medicine ", after a number internet poster's (myself included) pointed out that "licensed...forum.cyclingnews.com
In addition to that, your post reminded me again that parents of your beloved player worked for a pharmaceutical company.
Azure
G.O.A.T.
Nice to see you around
Justin Side
Hall of Fame
Humbalito is now a slam specialist. His body needs a day off after every tough match.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
He has played through pain since 2005. He is used to it.
Newballsplease872
Rookie
Nadal is the healthiest guy on tour.
If Fedovic were as lucky as him with injuries they'd bot have 25 slams
If Fedovic were as lucky as him with injuries they'd bot have 25 slams
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
The cause of that is pretty simple though.
Djokovic and RF fans have been waiting for Nadal's career to end since.................. a decade or more.
Meanwhile, Nadal keeps winning slams. Especially AO22 makes them nervous. And that impatience from his anti-fans makes them extremely frustrated, fueling their increasing paranoia that everything is a lie.
They were CONVINCED (as nearly all of us were) that Nadal's career ceiling would be 30 if not less, that injuries would get him to retire early. But when that failed to happen, year after year, they started coming up with the bizarre conspiracy theory that Nadal is part of a conspiracy.
The irony is great.
intrepidish
Hall of Fame
These threads are a tribute to what Nadal has done to his detractors who in a bizarre inverted way are some of his most dedicated fans though they're unable to consciously recognize it.
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Thank you. With Federer not playing tennis isn't a big part of my life right now - and with a war going on it's hard to think of GOAT fights as terribly important. But it's nice to dip a toe in occasionally.Nice to see you around
I'm glad my post didn't come over as Nadal bashing - I kind of feel he's part of the family now. There's always a debate about whether Fed and Nadal are genuinely close or its all fake but to me they feel like two brothers who maybe aren't that close and probably moan about each other a bit but will stick together when they need to. It's a nice place for them to have ended up in I think.
zagor
Bionic Poster
It's not a conspiracy theory and it's not complicated, it's just sports partisanship making it so. Nadal has had his share of injuries and plays through pain but the thing is, so does every pro in the history of the game (Rafter had a shoulder of a 50 year old man when he retired for example, in his own words). The vast majority of them had lingering issues when they finished their careers. Pro sport is brutal and those competitors push their bodies to their limits and beyond, that's just the way it is.
The problem is that we're supposed to buy that Nadal is one of the most injury prone players on tour when dude at the same time also showcased one of the best career longevity the game has ever seen (when basic logic would dictate otherwise, he's one of the healthiest). And that he managed to do it because of his "fighting spirit". In Nadal fans' minds, the difference between someone like Delpo (among many others) and Nadal is that Nadal just has a stronger will to win, you do realize how utterly ridiculous that is? It's basically anime territory.
I mean let's put Nadal aside. Do you think it's possible for any professional athlete to be the most accomplished in the whole history of his sport yet also be counted among the most injury prone players in the field? To me, it's contradictory. To be the very best you have to perform so consistently at a high level, that being blessed with "good health" compared to your peers is basically a prerequisite IMO.
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
This is basically the same thing that people with serious illnesses complain about, that when you talk about "overcoming cancer" and things like that it implies the people who don't recover just didn't fight hard enough.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
We can’t know for sure that Bull has never been healthy: after all, he has been winning moral slams for centuries and his best years might well predate the start of recorded history. But it is obviously true that he has been fighting a cruel series of debilitating injuries since at least Roland Garros 1877.
octobrina10
Bionic Poster
This thread was created by a Djokofan and his is full of Rafa bashers' comments. I wonder why his non-fans are sooo obsessed with his injuries. He was asked a question at his post-match press conference and he replied to it. That's what players' press conferences are meant for.
He was asked a question at his post-match press conference and he replied to it. That's what players' press conferences are meant for.
King No1e
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Nadal never got on Djokovic for "faking injuries". Don't see how youre trying to make him a hypocrite. They both have struggled massively with their fitness and both caught a lot of crap from the Fed camp for it.Omg, will he ever stop whining? Remember Novak when he was young and had health problems, how he was bragged on that? RodDick even publicly trashed him, Federer dic.ked him too, not to mention TTW... In the meanwhile Nadal keep whining he's hurt his whole f.k.ing career in which he won 21 slams...
He ruins everyone's victory against him, specially lately, from FO 21... It's just ridiculous...
But yeah, I'm sure all the constant injuries, missing several months when the issue was first discovered, contemplating retirement at 18, the special custom soles he uses on court, the scenes of him literally crying during injury time outs, all of it is just an elaborate "mind game" as @BeatlesFan seems to think.
The Blond Blur
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Gotta say the forum looks better when it’s clean shaven
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
OofGotta say the forum looks better when it’s clean shaven
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
So, do you think he missed the rest of the 2021 season because the loss of RG hurt him so much instead of actually being injured?Omg, will he ever stop whining? Remember Novak when he was young and had health problems, how he was bragged on that? RodDick even publicly trashed him, Federer dic.ked him too, not to mention TTW... In the meanwhile Nadal keep whining he's hurt his whole f.k.ing career in which he won 21 slams...
He ruins everyone's victory against him, specially lately, from FO 21... It's just ridiculous...
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