Nadal Soderling French Open 2009 4R stats

[abmk]

I know this is the former pro player section, but since most of the stats are here, I figured, it’d be better to post it here.

The biggest upset ever ?

Soderling kept pounding away at nadal and nadal was almost always on the defensive. Note the no of forehand winners for soderling and errors that he forced off nadal’s FH wing. The only real bad patch of play for soderling in the match was the 2nd set tie-break, which nadal won rather easily. Soderling forced a lot of short balls from nadal with his aggressive play, but even on some of the easier balls nadal was hitting short, he certainly was capable of playing better.

Oh and I didn’t notice when I saw it live, but I did it when I saw it this 2nd time : soderling threw the racquet he had used to win into the stands !!! :shock:



These are the stats:

The set3 stats they showed on screen tallied perfectly with what they showed on board. Otherwise, some minor discrepancies, 1 point here and there in every other set in one/more categories.

Nadal served at 92% in the 3rd set but still lost it by a break

At 5-4 to soderling in the 3rd, they flashed this stat:

Rallies won:

3 or less: Nadal 37, Soderling 37
4-8: Nadal 34, Soderling 45

This is the link to the stats at the official website:

http://2009.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/scores/stats/day13/1113ms.html

Some differences:

The ATP and the RG site have soderling winning 143 points and nadal winning 128 points. I have them winning 141 and 127 respectively.

They have soderling at 61 W, I have him at 62 W ( there was one shot where nadal was at the net and barely managed to get his racquet on it, I put that as a winner, they probably put it as a forced error ).

I have nadal at 34 W, they have him at 33 (probably a difference in service winners I guess)

I have soderling making 58 UEs, they have him at 59 UEs.I have nadal making 31 UEs, they have him at 29 UEs

I have soderling 26/35 at the net, they have him at 27/35. I have nadal at 6/12, they have him at 6/11

Edit: They have nadal at 28 UEs, not 29.

 

[krosero]

I have soderling making 58 UEs, they have him at 59 UEs.I have nadal making 31 UEs, they have him at 29 UEs

In the Sampras-Stich match you excluded the DF's from the UE total, but you've included them here: and no doubt the RG site included them too. What's remarkable is how close your UE's came to theirs. (Note: Nadal actually has 28 UE at the link you gave). That's pretty cool: I once took UE's for a Lendl-Agassi match that nearly lined up with the official numbers.

 

[abmk]

In the Sampras-Stich match you excluded the DF's from the UE total, but you've included them here: and no doubt the RG site included them too. What's remarkable is how close your UE's came to theirs. (Note: Nadal actually has 28 UE at the link you gave). That's pretty cool: I once took UE's for a Lendl-Agassi match that nearly lined up with the official numbers.

yeah, the UE counts turned out to be pretty close. There weren't too many doubtful ones among the errors ( ones that were hard to decide whether they were forced or unforced )

I normally include the DFs in the UE count, just forgot to add in the sampras-stich match.

 

[krosero]

yeah, the UE counts turned out to be pretty close. There weren't too many doubtful ones among the errors ( ones that were hard to decide whether they were forced or unforced )

I found the same thing in Lendl-Agassi, not too many ambiguous points.

At least in that sense the two matches seem to have been similar.

 

[krosero]

From an article at IOL:

"Soderling finished with 59 unforced errors, more than twice as many as Nadal's 28, but the Swede's 30 forehand winners made up some ground on the top-ranked Spaniard."

http://www.iol.co.za/?set_id=6&click_id=30&art_id=nw20090601073651361C131823

NBC also mentioned 30 FH winners by Soderling.

 

[hoodjem]

Did Soderling play "out of his mind"?

Did Nadal play poorly?

Both?

Can anyone summarize how the King of Clay lost on clay to an also-ran hard-courter?

 

[krosero]

ABMK - any data on how many winners were passing shots?

 

[abmk]

ABMK - any data on how many winners were passing shots?

soderling had two passing shot winners, both of the BH wing ...nadal had one passing shot winner of each wing.

 

[TennisFan008]

Did Soderling play "out of his mind"?

Did Nadal play poorly?

Both?

Can anyone summarize how the King of Clay lost on clay to an also-ran hard-courter?

Soderling was just too big for Nadal.