Nadal the first man to hold the number one ranking in three different decades....

Centuries are not he same than decades.

The XXI century started in 2001. The 2000s decade started in 2000.

There is nothing "logical" or "non-logical" about this. Calendaries are a cultural creation. Thus, centuries are not like decades, culturally.
 
Centuries are not he same than decades.

The XXI century started in 2001. The 2000s decade started in 2000.

There is nothing "logical" or "non-logical" about this. Calendaries are a cultural creation. Thus, centuries are not like decades, culturally.


What if rather than 1AD they made the 1st yr 5AD? That means every decade would end with a '4'. The current decade would have started 2015 and will end 2024.

There's no reason the 1st yr had to be 1AD - could be any number - eg 17AD. 1AD means 1 yr after Jesus birth, 17AD means 17 yrs after his birth. Jesus was not born in 1AD, so year zero had to exist - ie the yr of birth.

If year zero doesn't exist please tell us the yr Jesus was born - we know it's not 1AD or 1BC. Which year was it?
 
Centuries are not he same than decades.

The XXI century started in 2001. The 2000s decade started in 2000.

There is nothing "logical" or "non-logical" about this. Calendaries are a cultural creation. Thus, centuries are not like decades, culturally.
nah, reference systems are identical, no matter if it's decades, centures, milleniums or a childbirth, take a look at the ruler- there's a zero but there's no centimeter zero on it, when a child is born it begins and goes year 1 right away, 2020 is the last year of a decade, next decade starts in 2021, it's just a common misconception because for a human' eye it's more comfortable, more convenient to see it that way (1980s, 1990s), that's only a reason..there was 1BC and then it goes 1AD straight (year zero doesn't exist)
 
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Semantics. Everyone knows what 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc mean - eg 80's is the 10 years 1980 to 1989, each of the 10 yrs in 'the 80's' starts with '8'. When we say 'decade' it's shorthand for that. The '2020's' star tomorrow 1 January 2020, not a year from now 1 January 2021. That's what we mean by 'decade' - those 10 years. The 'first decade' is the anomaly as it didn't have that '0' every decade since has. You can count the 1st few yrs as 01,02,03 up to 09 - then the years switched & started with '1' - ie 10, 11,12 up to 19, then switched to '2' ie 20,21,22. The 1st 'decade' has only 9 yrs because it's special - the yr Christ was born was special so it can't be counted. Think of it like normal people do - 'the 80's' decade started in 1980 & ended 1989, 'the 2020's' decade starts tomorrow 1 Jan 2020 - not after we already have a whole yr starting with '20' - no charge.
 
take a look at the ruler- there's a zero but there's no centimeter zero on it, when a child is born it begins and goes year 1 right away,

The ruler is correct as it measures 1 cm between the 0 & the 1, like we do with eg 'the 80's' - we count the 1980. The child being born in your eg gets credited with a whole yr from birth, rather than from the beginning of 'yr 2'.
 
nah, reference systems are identical, no matter if it's decades, centures, milleniums or a childbirth, take a look at the ruler- there's a zero but there's no centimeter zero on it, when a child is born it begins and goes year 1 right away, 2020 is the last year of a decade, next decade starts in 2021, it's just a common misconception because for a human' eye it's more comfortable, more convenient to see it that way (1980s, 1990s), that's only a reason..there was 1BC and then it goes 1AD straight (year zero doesn't exist)
No, they are not identical at all. Again, next decade doesn't start in 2021 stop being ridiculous. 2020 is not part of the 2010s. Next decade starts in 2020. It will be 2020-2029.

As I said, centuries are not the same as decades. Both centuries and decades are a cultural measure. Cultural is the crucial word. It is a human creation and so it is entirely conventional and starts and finishes when humans say.

2001: first year of XXI century.
2000: first year of the 2000s decade.

Why does Wikipedia say that the 2000s decade starts in 2000?

Because the 2000s decade starts in 2000.


Why does Wikipedia say that the XXI century starts in 2001?

Because the XXI century starts in 2001.
 
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Centuries are not he same than decades.

The XXI century started in 2001. The 2000s decade started in 2000.

There is nothing "logical" or "non-logical" about this. Calendaries are a cultural creation. Thus, centuries are not like decades, culturally.

Good post. Though I would say that it (the calendar) is indeed non-logical, but is not illogical. That is, it is outside the realm of logic but (or, rather, "as a result") is not an example of flawed logic.
 
Good post. Though I would say that it (the calendar) is indeed non-logical, but is not illogical. That is, it is outside the realm of logic but (or, rather, "as a result") is not an example of flawed logic.
I agree it is cultural/conventional and non-logical the contradiction between centuries and decades. But it is what it is.
 
The ruler is correct as it measures 1 cm between the 0 & the 1,
from 0 to 1 it's centimeter 1 is going, 0,5cm is half a centimeter, if we start to go in the opposite direction then till the zero it's gonna be still cm1(not cm0), then below 0 it will be -1cm (there's no cm0, same story with chronology), 0 is an abstract point which can't be the ongoing time period
 
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I agree it is cultural/conventional and non-logical the contradiction between centuries and decades. But it is what it is.
if it's 0.50 on the clock face we say first hour is going but not a zero hour is going (zero hour doesn't exist) as i said, reference systems are identical, why should we make an exception for decades specifically, use simple logic but not excuses(cultural or not cultural) and everything is gonna be ok
 
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No, they are not identical at all. Again, next decade doesn't start in 2021 stop being ridiculous. 2020 is not part of the 2010s. Next decade starts in 2020. It will be 2020-2029.

As I said, centuries are not the same as decades. Both centuries and decades are a cultural measure. Cultural is the crucial word. It is a human creation and so it is entirely conventional and starts and finishes when humans say.

2001: first year of XXI century.
2000: first year of the 2000s decade.

Why does Wikipedia say that the 2000s decade starts in 2000?
next decade hits in 2021 ...wikipedia is not a soild source to be referred lol:laughing:a case of beer consists of 20 bottles, 2nd case starts with bottle number 21, try again:-D
 
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No, they are not identical at all. Again, next decade doesn't start in 2021 stop being ridiculous. 2020 is not part of the 2010s. Next decade starts in 2020. It will be 2020-2029.

As I said, centuries are not the same as decades. Both centuries and decades are a cultural measure. Cultural is the crucial word. It is a human creation and so it is entirely conventional and starts and finishes when humans say.

2001: first year of XXI century.
2000: first year of the 2000s decade.

Why does Wikipedia say that the 2000s decade starts in 2000?

Because the 2000s decade starts in 2000.


Why does Wikipedia say that the XXI century starts in 2001?

Because the XXI century starts in 2001.

Don’t agree with this. They either both start in 2000, or both in 2001. (I would say 2000)
 
from 0 to 1 it's centimeter 1 is going, 0,5cm is half a centimeter, if we start to go in the opposite direction then till the zero it's gonna be still cm1(not cm0), then below 0 it will be -1cm (there's no cm0,

from 0 to 1 the number starts with a 0, not a 1

eg halfway between 0 and 1 is 0.5 - ie starts with 0. Halfway between 0 and minus 1 again starts with 0, -0.5

zero does exist

I think you might be trolling right?
 
I don't get what you're trying to link me here. It seems to be agreeing with me.

a. Officially a ten-year period beginning with the year 1, as 1921-1930, 1931-1940, etc.
b. in common usage, a ten-year period beginning with a year 0, as 1920-1929, 1930-1939, etc.

So as I said, "enough people say something false thousands of times, it might as well be true. "


Are you maybe just trying to argue this because you want Nadal to have a new achievement under his belt? Because I don't care about that. Nadal has made a special achievement nonetheless, so I congratulate him. But don't try to tell me 2020 is a new decade.
The new decade begins January 1, 2020. Deal with it!
 
Cool. Downunder. Are you from the city side i.e Sydney or Melbourne or from the other side. For long I have been fascinated by country side of Australia. Its my dream to visit once.


Even better I'm from Newcastle;


140km north of Sydney. Far less crowded, some of the best beaches in the world (I swim/run along the ones in this clip most mornings - dolphins & whales aplenty). Great vineyards/golf courses. Bit of a well kept secret but Lonely Planet ranked us 9 one time lol (New York no.1) so secret is slowly getting out : )

 
Even better I'm from Newcastle;


140km north of Sydney. Far less crowded, some of the best beaches in the world (I swim/run along the ones in this clip most mornings - dolphins & whales aplenty). Great vineyards/golf courses. Bit of a well kept secret but Lonely Planet ranked us 9 one time lol (New York no.1) so secret is slowly getting out : )

Two words: Amazing and Privileged.
 
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