Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by RAFA2005RG, Jan 30, 2013.
Nadal informs the tennis public of his status heading into the South American swing-
......Hope he does well...still doubt his knees are good for tournament play.
Fortunately on clay, knees aren't a factor for Nadal, after he won Roland Garros with a completely numb knee. The question isn't whether he can win clay titles, rather whether he can play the other surfaces after Roland Garros. Worst case scenario is he wins Roland Garros every year.
I wonder if Rosol is playing the South American swing?
It's Nadal. It's clay. LOL. I don't see any realistic way that anyone that plays those tournaments (with the exception of maybe Ferrer or Almagro) that will be able to beat him, even after 7 months off.
I sure hope you're right. Planning on enjoying every match!
Ferrer and Almagro will both be bagelled by Nadal
I may sound like Clarky (OMG what a scary thought,lol) but playing in his first tournament ?....................not much expectation there, even if it's clay.
So, don't bet on him yet. A Guillermo Garcia Lopez or a Belluci might get him. We'll see.
I can't wait to see him play. He should come back with the sleeveless look and pirate pants lol. Bamos.
Every single time you type "numb" on TW a kitten dies.
Dude, absolutely agree. The younger Rafa is the iconic one to me (the legend killer, true determination, power of youth, etc.). Sleeveless Rafa needs to make a comeback.
F*** it, while we are at, Roger should grow the ponytail back....hmmm Gillete wouldn't let him, but it'd be awesome if he grew a beard.
this is a true son of Skyrim, bears need a comeback
haha I must be out of it for some reason, intended to say beards need to make a comeback, yet bears actually makes sense in that connotation. Impressive.
Lololololol someone doesn't watch tennis.
Almagro, Ferrer and Monaco to be Bagled by Rafa in this swing.
Not gonna happen. He probably won't even show up to play at all.
I smell something bad. Clarky?
I hope so, or I'm going to have a pair of tickets that would be hard to sell.
This doesn't sound so bad:
I'm sorry but I'm never betting on Nadal losing a clay court tournament unless Federer, Djokovic, or Soderling are in it and Nadal is injured. Even playing with bum knees and no match play in half a year, Nadal is still the best clay courter in history. Regardless of if he slaughters his opponents or if he has to fight for it, the end result will be him winning. That's just how it is.
Very excited to see him back on the courts. I might be getting my hopes up too high, but I have a good feeling about him coming back looking like he hasn't been away. We'll see. I haven't looked too closely at the calendar...is this three tournaments in three weeks?
Ah, the famous George Bastl
Yeah, support the pain of the knee, and the knee shall support you.
Add Del Po to the list that could take him out if he is less than 100%.
you're the best...around...nothing gonna ever keep you down...
exclusively on TTW: first item of the 2013 collection of nadal excuses !!!
do we have to guess the other ones ?
i'll give it a try !
I agree. Almagro if he's over his choke at the AO could be dangerous, and Ferrer too. Almagro lost to Nadal in a close 3 setter 7-6 7-6 6-4 at RG 2010, Ferrer actually should have beaten Nadal at Barca last year i think? Was serving for one set and had set points in the other set or something like that.But yeah, everyone else should be toast.
It appears to be mentally impossible for a Spanish player to win a close match over Nadal on clay (apart from Verdasco on blue clay). So when Almagro or Ferrer have a close match vs Nadal, it may as well be 6-0 6-0, because there is no way they are winning that.
Such a weak clay field, no? No wonder Rafa has won so many French Opens. Federer and Djokovic are the only ones who don't lay down!
Surely in the future there will be a large asterisk next to Rafa's FO wins, considering he only had to really play one match per event...
"I used to play professional tennis, till I took a Rosol to the knee" To be honest I'm looking for to Nadal's return.
Almagro would crap his pants if he took a set off Nadal on clay and lose the next two sets 0 and 0.
Has there ever been a Roland Garros champion who had to face greater players than Federer and Djokovic? Many argue that Federer was unlucky to have been born in the Nadal era, and that a champion like Bruguera or Guga would never have beaten Nadal either. And Djokovic is certainly at the skill level and possesses the physical gifts of a Roland Garros champion. Nadal has raised the bar so high, that the "2nd tier" is an extremely high level. Of course, you don't have any knowledge of tennis or tennis history, so you wouldn't understand any of this. I won't waste my time again. Welcome to my ignore list.
Because Guga was bossing Federer around on clay so badly, I am not convinced Roger is that impressive a clay court player. I think he has been this generation's second best clay courter behind Rafa, but it is sincerely very difficult to get a read on how much higher if at all Rafa has raised the bar above the former greats on that surface, or whether he actually has been playing in an era where surface homogenization has somehow reduced the number of players who shine on clay and the depth of competition for Rafa to deal with. I mean, he has never been consistently troubled by anyone on clay in almost nine years...that's one of those two way conundrums where he's either better than Borg, or he hasn't had any stiff competition, but I'm not sure which. But closing the loop, I think back on how roundly Guga whipped Roger who was then on the cusp of breaking out into superstardom...and Roger would go onto become the "second greatest clay courter of Rafa's generation." OK? So, it's hard to assess Rafa's GOAT-worthiness on clay, but I have a hunch that he is slightly better than Bjorn, and so I rank Rafa THE GOAT on clay, with Borg of course @#2.
Guga has a 1-1 record vs Federer on clay, and Federer bagelled Guga at Hamburg.
So... wait, your argument is that federer is one of the best ever on clay, but couldn't beat Nadal.
But Federer apparently faced a weak field when he won the majority of his slams/made the majority of his FO finals...
So is he or is he not GOAT? And if you say he isn't because of Rafa.. then how good is Rafa, really, if Federer isn't one of the GOATs? Surely he can't be as good as you think he is if FEderer is not very good either?
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