Nadal : "This court has two and half problems"

[Murrayfan31]

Basically all of Nadal's problems with these courts can be summed up in one thing. The ball doesn't bounce high enough here. Not good for my topspin no?

 

[mandy01]

You wish I wouldn't post here. You've said it plenty of times. But sorry, I don't care what you think and I'll post what and when I want to. Isn't that obvious? Have you ever stopped me from posting? You don't own this board as hard as that is for you to believe.

I don't wish anything on anyone here. I addressed your post and pointed out a clear inconsistency in your stand. You turn around and start lecturing me on something completely irrelevant to my reply. As usual.

You're the one acting holier-than-thou. Get a grip on your own nonsense.

LOL, more BS.

There's only one response to such a nitpicker such as yourself (See below).

You essentially prove me right. You have nothing worth to say, as is always the case.

Go make a thread about Federer's children's, or Federer's hair, why dontcha? That's the kind of thing I'm used to seeing you talk about.

Wow, sensational comeback. But I only made one thread so far on anything pertaining to what you alluded so apart from being perpetually irrelevant and illogical, you are also a liar.

You crack me up. It's worth coming on the board to see you post and getting your feathers all adither.

You crack me up too, seeing as how you can write a whole long post in reply to me and include nothing of logic, content or relevance in any of your replies.

 

[TheTruth]

Look at your original post and then look what you're stating here. You seem to love to contradict yourself. Politcial correctness is political correctness and who are you to decide where it should be directed or what warrants criticism and what doesn't? You refuted your own stand earlier and then started back-peddling by saying you don't like some select incidents of politically incorrect statements which in essence contradicts everything you said earlier and defeats your premise. Learn to be consistent before handing out free advice to others on how they should be approaching the forum.

My only response to you from now on.

P.S.-I wouldn't even consider trying to have a conversation with you. I've seen enough of you in the past to know what you're about. Alas, you've proved it again.

You deserve a double.

 

[mandy01]

My only response to you from now on.

P.S.-I wouldn't even consider trying to have a conversation with you. I've seen enough of you in the past to know what you're about. Alas, you've proved it again.

You deserve a double.

That's fine with me. I know that's all you're capable of, anyway.

 

[Crisstti]

In case anyone cares:

Rafa Nadal blames ATP for the blue colour of Madrid’s tournament

“Yesterday I trained on the central court and my idea about the blue clay doesn’t change. It’s an inssue of concept, no of whether it’s pretty or not”.

“Madrid is one of the best tournaments of the world and it does not need to go any further. The blue clay is a mistake, but I understand the organization and I positively value their attempt to innovate. My reproach is to the ATP that is who allows that this kind of thing is done”.
“First, clay has always been red, it’s a matter of history. And in the hard courts there’s increasingly less change and they’re unifying towards blue and green. Clay is a material that it seems clear that if you dye it something changes, meanwhile hard courts, whatever colour you paint it, the result is the same.”
“Besides, on hard courts we play all year long, while on clay there’s a one month tour and it’s unnecessary to try to change something”.
The number two in the world commented again on the little influence players have on the decisions made on the circuit.
"We paint what we paint (we count as much as we count, I guess), no more no less. Madrid is the most difficult tournament of all the clay ones because of the altitude and it doesn’t need to differentiate itself more. In this sense it’s the clay tournament less similar to clay tournaments and where it’s more probable to play worse. It is my opinión”
"I have great enthusiasm for playing in Madrid and in Spain. The opportunities are few to play at home in front of family and friends".
The Spanish champion trained yesterday with Janko Tipsarevic and found more fault with the blue clay than its colour.
"The back fence is low and has some ads with blue 'led' bulbs which makes the view of the ball difficult. Besides, the court slides more than usual, I don’t know whether it has little clay, whether is hard or whether it’s because of the paint. And then, at times, it seems soft and has irregular bounces, especially on the serve and the first hit ".
"It's a court which much favors the serve and the first shot, because the ball bounces fast and forth."
La posibilidad de volver a enfrentarse con el serbio Novak Djokovic, número uno mundial, le pareció perfecta al español.
"I hope to play Nole with because that would mean to be in the final. It’s clear that after seven finals lost to him, having won in Monte Carlo strengthens my morals (confidence)".
"I have had two very positive weeks with victories in Monte Carlo and Barcelona, against one of the world's best on clay as David (Ferrer). I hope the streak can continue in Madrid".
Regarding Djokovic, who at this point last year had not yet lost any match, he said: " to repeat what Nole did last year is almost impossible for him and for any other player."
"This year he is impeccable, like last year, but luck also counts and some other factors, which are not always positive to the same side".

http://www.que.es/deportes/tenis/201205041442-rafa-nadal-culpa-color-azul-efe.html?anker_14

I see nothing about "two and a half problems", nor about Federer (much less about him having poor footwork.

Other sources have the same quotes. I found this interesting from

Nadal's criticism points to former ATP president Adam Helfant, who last year cast the deciding vote in the board, giving green light to the possibility of trying for this year the original surface, until now never used before. After the 2012 edition of the tournament, it will be decided if the blue clay stays as the definitive surface of the tournament

http://www.diariodesevilla.es/artic...al/carga/contra/la/atp/y/la/arcilla/azul.html

I wonder if Tennis.com was quoting from an interview in English?, they don't exactly bother to explain... I'm thinking it's most probably just BS.

 

[TheTruth]

That's fine with me. I know that's all you're capable of, anyway.

 

[TheTruth]

I don't wish anything on anyone here. I addressed your post and pointed out a clear inconsistency in your stand. You turn around and start lecturing me on something completely irrelevant to my reply. As usual.
LOL, more BS.

You essentially prove me right. You have nothing worth to say, as is always the case.

Wow, sensational comeback. But I only made one thread so far on anything pertaining to what you alluded so apart from being perpetually irrelevant and illogical, you are also a liar.

You crack me up too, seeing as how you can write a whole long post in reply to me and include nothing of logic, content or relevance in any of your replies.

Sorry. Missed one.

 

[jones101]

Nadal: - "This court has two and half problems,"

But he wont b1tch if he won!
If your havin surface issues I feel bad for you son!
''This court has two and a half problems''
But he wont b1tch if he won!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk

 

[Murrayfan31]

Nadal has offically gone ********.

He was always like that. It's just now that he is not afraid to bring it out. He used to care about his image somewhat. Those days are over for the topspin monkey.

 

[nadal_slam_king]

Nadal needs to STFU and just play, the court is the same for everyone. And the visibility thing is totally absurd, the Australian Open courts are almost the same colour and I don't see people complaining that the ball is hard to see.

So who has more a right to speak their mind, the posters at talk tennis or the tennis players? Oh wait, is speaking your mind wrong? That's the part that confuses me about this thread.

 

[nadal_slam_king]

Basically all of Nadal's problems with these courts can be summed up in one thing. The ball doesn't bounce high enough here. Not good for my topspin no?

How about Cahill? Is his complaint cool?

I haven't read the previous pages so forgive me if this has already been posted, but Darren Cahill said-

"uneven, holes and cracks formed when sliding. The practice courts were nearly unplayable. Also, big site with not enough courts
Beyond the blue, the state of the courts in Madrid has always been the major issue. Some have been near unplayable, others ok at best"

 

[CMM]

Stakhovsky:

"After playing a match on blueclay court 6 I can say with full responsibility on my shoulders that it is the worst court of @ATPWorldTour."

 

[Magnus]

I don't mind him sleeping as long as he does it at home, banned from tennis, like he should be.

Also, I see you are part of those "smart" Nadal fans who simply can't respond to the anything he's being accused at, so they just post a funny (not) image hoping people will say how brilliant or funny they are. Well, you're not

 

[Deleted member 60695]

Federer has an aura stemming from his achievements that make what he says interesting even when its not.

There is irony here.

 

[ViscaB]

Rafa needs to come clean and say he loves Barcelona over Madrid. And that includes FC Barcelona over Real Madrid.

Also, Magnus needs a restraining order.

 

[CMM]

Wozniacki took a tumble today. I don't know if it's because of the clay since there are no streams.

 

[nadal_slam_king]

Nadal is far classier than most (or all) posters at Talk Tennis. Proof is everywhere.

 

[Warmaster]

Nadal is far classier than most (or all) posters at Talk Tennis. Proof is everywhere.

Bold statement of the year!

 

[Bobby Jr]

Monaco seemed more slippery this year as well... I doubt it's got anything to do with the colour of the court. Clay is impossible to prepare in the exact same way year after year.

In addition - aren't they using different balls than last year? Last year when they turned up at the FO a few people complained the balls were significantly different to the lead up events. This year surely the lead up events will have adjusted the balls somehow?? (either that or they're going to back-track at the FO).

 

[joechiang]

Wozniacki took a tumble today. I don't know if it's because of the clay since there are no streams.

won't be more serious than this.

 

[TTMR]

No, because unlike Nadal, I don't resort to violence.

I personally believe Nadal's topspin forehand to Federer's backhand should be considered repeated assault with a deadly weapon. If there were any justice in this world, Nadal would be arrested and remanded without bail, his possessions impounded and sold at auction, his family charged with accessory, and Nadal required to appear without counsel or chance of appeal before an inquisition consisting solely of Magnus.

 

[Bobby Jr]

Nadal said:

“First, clay has always been red, it’s a matter of history. And in the hard courts there’s increasingly less change and they’re unifying towards blue and green.

Nadal is obviously a stickler for tradition. That's why he showed up at tournaments dressed in capri pants and singlets. Tradition.

He's also wrong about clay always being red. In Asia and America this hasn't been the case since,... well, ever.

 

[Mustard]

He's also wrong about clay always being red. In Asia and America this hasn't been the case since,... well, ever.

He's obviously talking about the clay run from April to June.

 

[Clay lover]

No, because unlike Nadal, I don't resort to violence.

Wow, you hate a guy you haven't even met personally so much. I personally fear you much more than I fear Nadal.

 

[Sentinel]

Sir Magnus is the counterpart of Sir NSK. But not as entertaining, sadly.

 

[rommil]

Looks like he was watching tapes of his matches.

 

[Lsmkenpo]

My Dear Friends,

For your cogitation, I present the ATP rulebook code of conduct. Should some type of punishment be levied against Mr. Nadal for his disparaging remarks?




VIII. THE CODE
8.01 Tournament Obligations
A. Application Requirements
Each tournament agrees to comply with all provisions contained in the ATP WorldTour Tournament Application where applicable.

B. Conduct Contrary to the Integrity of the Game The favorable reputation of the ATP, its tournaments and players is a valuable asset and creates tangible benefits for all ATP members. Accordingly, it is an obligation for ATP World Tour or ATP Challenger Tour tournaments, owner(s), promoter(s),operator(s) or representative(s) thereof, to refrain from engaging in conduct contrary to the integrity of the game of tennis. Conduct contrary to the integrity of the game shall include, but not be limited to, comments to the news media that unreasonably attack or disparage a tournament, sponsor, player, official or the ATP. Responsible expressions of legitimate disagreement with the ATP policies are not prohibited. However, public comments that one of the stated persons above knows, or should reasonably know, will harm the reputation or financial best interests of a tournament, player, sponsor, official or the ATP are expressly covered by this section. Violation of this section shall subject a tournament to a fine up to $100,000, and/or loss or change in membership status, and/or forfeiture of all sums, if any, previously
paid to the ATP.

 

[Evan77]

Nadal is far classier than most (or all) posters at Talk Tennis. Proof is everywhere.

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English, he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

 

[Murrayfan31]

won't be more serious than this.

Stupid Monte-Carlo clay. That tournament should be outlawed. I don't remember Nadal complaining about MC though.

 

[tacou]

Nadal is so OCD. His visibility issue is pretty specific though let's see if other players mention it during the week

 

[Mainad]

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English

He's a Spaniard, why should he have to speak good English?

he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

A 'moron' who, at the age of 25, has won 48 titles including 10 Slams and 20 Masters plus 1 Olympic Gold Medal. Whatever your personal feelings about him, this makes him one of the greatest players ever to pick up a racquet and only someone completely blinded by prejudice would try to argue otherwise.

Compared to these achievements, his various habits and foibles don't matter diddly-squat. We can laugh at them but they don't detract from his awesome stature as a tennis player.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English, he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

I don't care for Nadal, and I'm tired of him complaining about everything there is to complain about. Nor do I care about his on court antics and nonsense.

But you can't talk about "class" when you're criticizing someone for not speaking a language well. English is one of the more dominating language of the world, but it's not a requirement. I bet if you go to Spain, people will say you can barely speak Spanish.

Surely he must be a tennis moron, I mean he only figured out how to beat Federer when he was straight setting everyone else on the tour.

 

[Crisstti]

I don't mind him sleeping as long as he does it at home, banned from tennis, like he should be.

Also, I see you are part of those "smart" Nadal fans who simply can't respond to the anything he's being accused at, so they just post a funny (not) image hoping people will say how brilliant or funny they are. Well, you're not

"Everything he's being accused of". LOL. You need help, really. Nadal should probably get a restraining order.

However, public comments that one of the stated persons above knows, or should reasonably know, will harm the reputation or financial best interests of a tournament, player, sponsor, official or the ATP are expressly covered by this section. Violation of this section shall subject a tournament to a fine up to $100,000, and/or loss or change in membership status, and/or forfeiture of all sums, if any, previously
paid to the ATP.

:-?

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English, he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

And here's the cultural arrogance again.

 

[Hood_Man]

This thread reminds me of the Jay-Z song

 

[The-Champ]

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English, he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

What about native English speakers who cannot spell "violates"? How classy are they?

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

What about native English speakers who cannot spell "violates"? How classy are they?

S/He's just saying ATP rules are purple. Maybe they are written in purple! Fool knows what s/he's talking about.

 

[Tony48]

Why didn't they just change the color of the freakin BALL if there were complaints about seeing it on TV? My God.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

What about native English speakers who cannot spell "violates"? How classy are they?

Hey Mjolnir...

what about having the "sons" of Thor trash talking the balcanic people? who classy\common is that?

 

[nadal_slam_king]

right, please define this 'class' thingy. Nadal can barely speak English, he picks his *** every 5 minutes or so, he violets every single ATP rule (taking 2 hours in between points etc.) ... right, very classy. the biggest moron who's ever played tennis.

Speaking English makes a person classy does it? Nadal isn't a racist like you. Moron? You think if Nadal spoke about you he'd call you a moron?

 

[Evan77]

Speaking English makes a person classy does it? Nadal isn't a racist like you. Moron? You think if Nadal spoke about you he'd call you a moron?

NSK, when you have so much money (talking about Nadal, not you btw) you can hire a teacher and work on your English skills. 21st century my friend ... everyone speaks English. Djokovic and Roger speak fluently 4 langueages, yet I can hardly understand what Nadal is talking in his interviews, NO?

You started this with Nadal being classy and I just don't understand how buttpicking is classy. Please enlighten me.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

NSK, when you have so much money (talking about Nadal, not you btw) you can hire a teacher and work on your English skills. 21st century my friend ... everyone speaks English. Djokovic and Roger speak fluently 4 langueages, yet I can hardly understand what Nadal is talking in his interviews, NO?

You started this with Nadal being classy and I just don't understand how buttpicking is classy. Please enlighten me.

Clearly: Japan, China, France, Germany, Russia, and other world powers are not keeping up with the 21st century.

 

[The-Champ]

Hey Mjolnir...

what about having the "sons" of Thor trash talking the balcanic people? who classy\common is that?

They don't exist in this forum. Anything else?

 

[Bobby Jr]

Why didn't they just change the color of the freakin BALL if there were complaints about seeing it on TV? My God.

It would take all of 80 IQ points to explain why that wouldn't work.

Because. it. would. make. it. harder. for. the. players. to. see. the. ball.

 

[DRII]

Clearly: Japan, China, France, Germany, Russia, and other world powers are not keeping up with the 21st century.

The official language of the EU is English, and much of the elite in Asia make sure their children learn English....

Not that I agree with the poster you responded to...

 

[Clay lover]

spoken like a truly pathetic Nadalete!!!!

Way to put thoughts into my mind!

I don't even like Nadal that much. The amount of hate I see on this forum, however, is another matter.

 

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

The official language of the EU is English, and much of the elite in Asia make sure their children learn English....

Not that I agree with the poster you responded to...

Yeah, I know. But the inability to speak excellent English doesn't make you non-classy. Criticizing someone for that reason does.

And Nadal's English (still don't know why that's part of the discussion here) is good enough. If you can't understand his English, then something's wrong with you.

 

[Crisstti]

NSK, when you have so much money (talking about Nadal, not you btw) you can hire a teacher and work on your English skills. 21st century my friend ... everyone speaks English. Djokovic and Roger speak fluently 4 langueages, yet I can hardly understand what Nadal is talking in his interviews, NO?

You started this with Nadal being classy and I just don't understand how buttpicking is classy. Please enlighten me.

I don't know in what world you live, but no, not everyone speaks English. The amount of people who do is I'm sure rather minimal. And Nadal is actually one of them.

Sure he can hire a teacher, but he obviously is not interested in it. It's his business, he doesn't HAVE to speak English, much less speak it perfectly. And as someone else pointed out, it's only classless of you to claim otherwise and criticize someone over something like that. It actually borders on racism.

The official language of the EU is English, and much of the elite in Asia make sure their children learn English....

Not that I agree with the poster you responded to...

I think it's English, French and German.

I thought Nadal was responsible for aids, racism, child abuse and global warming.

The obsessive hate of some people here is disturbing. I'm thinking that's what that guy who stabbed Seles must have sounded like...

 

[Evan77]

I don't know in what world you live, but no, not everyone speaks English. The amount of people who do is I'm sure rather minimal. And Nadal is actually one of them.

Sure he can hire a teacher, but he obviously is not interested in it. It's his business, he doesn't HAVE to speak English, much less speak it perfectly. And as someone else pointed out, it's only classless of you to claim otherwise and criticize someone over something like that. It actually borders on racism.



I think it's English, French and German.



The obsessive hate of some people here is disturbing. I'm thinking that's what that guy who stabbed Seles must have sounded like...

well, it's his business, but I find it so embarrassing ... and who is talking about the race here? really guys, are you that stupid?

I'm so disappointing that Rafa in this world can hardly speak any English ... he should make an effort ... he sounds like an idiot

 

[TopFH]

Do you think he''ll use the court as an excuse if he loses before the final?

 

[Crisstti]

well, it's his business, but I find it so embarrassing ... and who is talking about the race here? really guys, are you that stupid?

I'm so disappointing that Rafa in this world can hardly speak any English ... he should make an effort ... he sounds like an idiot

Race (more as a cultural concept than anything) might well be an element here. You speak as if speaking English is an obligation, and as if people who do speak it are somehow superior to those who don't. He "should" make an effort?, really?. Are you from an English speaking country?.
It could also be ridiculous snobism as well, of course.