Forget about NSK and focus on SRK
Nadal: This injury is different
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Forget about NSK and focus on SRK
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
LMAO, is that old dude still around ???
How is Hawaii ? Shouldn't you be surfing i/o hitting the courts, or are you afraid of exposing all your body fat and tyres in swimming gear
LMAO, is that old dude still around ???
How is Hawaii ? Shouldn't you be surfing i/o hitting the courts, or are you afraid of exposing all your body fat and tyres in swimming gear
In December man.
tusharlovesrafa
Hall of Fame
I think he is scared of exposing his Hairy chest and lack of swimming skills.I bet my ass that he'll make up this short coming by sheer determination and grit.LMAO, is that old dude still around ???
How is Hawaii ? Shouldn't you be surfing i/o hitting the courts, or are you afraid of exposing all your body fat and tyres in swimming gear
I think he is scared of exposing his Hairy chest and lack of swimming skills.I bet my ass that he'll make up this short coming by sheer determination and grit.
I was a waterpolo gold medalist in college but to be frank I was a reserve in the winning team who went into the water only for 5 minutes and did not touch the ball
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decades
Guest
actually he stopped doing this years ago. and clay is not as hard on the body as HC. so he really wasn't taking the "beating" as people thought. I worry about rafa's fragile confidence, which is what I think this is about more than anything.
namelessone
Legend
Yes, you skip an event that only happens once every 4 years plus 2 masters events(maybe even USO) because of a shock loss in WB. Nadal must be the weakest player from a mental POV.
Nadal had a more brutal turn of events in 2009 with parents divorce, his injuries, his RG loss, WB withdrawal but he was back on court in Toronto and CIncy.
I can't believe people suspect other things than an injury when this guy(a top player) skips 3 very big events and may drop down to nr.4.
Homeboy Hotel
Hall of Fame
Nadal had the best USO outfit aswell
TennezSport
Hall of Fame
Wuppy
Professional
The injury is "different" this time because it's not acute, it's a chronic manifestation of the fact that his knees are completely worn out, like a elderly jogger's. They're destroyed, the cartilage and ligaments are shot to hell. There is no recovery or surgery that can help while allowing him to maintain a high-level pro tennis career.
I bet even when he walks down the street they hurt him.
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Articular cartilage, most notably that which is found in the knee joint, is generally characterized by very low friction, high wear resistance, and poor regenerative qualities. It is responsible for much of the compressive resistance and load bearing qualities of the knee joint and, without it, walking is painful to impossible.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knee_cartilage_replacement_therapy
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He'll have to go bionic.
I bet even when he walks down the street they hurt him.
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Articular cartilage, most notably that which is found in the knee joint, is generally characterized by very low friction, high wear resistance, and poor regenerative qualities. It is responsible for much of the compressive resistance and load bearing qualities of the knee joint and, without it, walking is painful to impossible.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knee_cartilage_replacement_therapy
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He'll have to go bionic.
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Nadal had the best USO outfit aswell
Don't remind me.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Just recap for me, why was Nadal tweaking the balance/weight on his racket? Other than going to RPM has he changed much recently?
If it was all about hitting a better length or going toe to toe with ND, well good for him making changes. Just got this nagging doubt in my mind about changes when a player doesn't seem to be loving his tennis. Hope this latest injury is not symptomatic of a more general malaise, mental, physical.... Burden of expectation, pleasing your fans while it is all getting harder and harder.
If it was all about hitting a better length or going toe to toe with ND, well good for him making changes. Just got this nagging doubt in my mind about changes when a player doesn't seem to be loving his tennis. Hope this latest injury is not symptomatic of a more general malaise, mental, physical.... Burden of expectation, pleasing your fans while it is all getting harder and harder.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
Yes..the guy who mowed down the competition and lost 3 sets the entire clay season..and all the while he was practically in a wheelchair.
also, didnt rafa say in march that "the knees are healed"?
so, whatever injury he is havving now, it probably aint the knees. according to rafa himself who said it was different injury.
フェデラー
Hall of Fame
I think he added a few grams of lead tape to beef up the serve. Even though his knees failed him, his serve at the '12 Wimbledon against Rosol was the best he has ever served. He had 10+ (maybe 15+, I don't recall) aces in that match.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Well he never said it was from Wimbledon, that's everyone's assumption. Im pretty sure he ended up training after and maybe it happened then, you never know. You don't have to be playing a match to get injured.
All-rounder
Legend
If that's the case then why hasn't there been any details as to what the injury is and how he got the injury. Also why it's sidelined him for pretty much the rest of the year (I doubt Rafa will play indoors).
It seems odd normally his camp will give an explanation for any injury he picks up.
Tennis_Hands
Banned
For someone, who, throughout the years, was able to pinpoint the source of his problems and their timing (see all the retroactive explanations about when an exact injury first started, given from Team Nadal and the medical reasons about them) the lack of detail is really striking.
I guess Team Nadal will figure out (from the public reaction) that they will have to conjure up some king of explanation, to compensate for the pathetic job, they have done so far.
But, that are the risks of the explanations, that do not have necessarily much to do with reality.
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Probably in time for the Australian Open.
Wuppy
Professional
Nah, it's his knees. He just played through the increasing pain till he fell apart against Rosol and couldn't do it anymore. He's done. It's a chronic injury that will permanently drop him out of the top 20 within 2 years.
You heard it here first.
So difficult to make this kind of prediction now.When the things go terribly for him.
Clarky21
Banned
Nope. You missed that boat by several years,and umpteen predictions of Nadal's demise already made by other Fedites.
Wuppy
Professional
If somebody predicted several years ago that he would drop out of the Top 20 within 2 years, their prediction would have obviously been incorrect. Duh.
Mine will be correct. You can obviously disagree but we have to wait 2 years for it to be right or wrong. Duh 2.
Clarky21
Banned
If somebody predicted several years ago that he would drop out of the Top 20 within 2 years, their prediction would have obviously been incorrect. Duh.
Mine will be correct. You can obviously disagree but we have to wait 2 years for it to be right or wrong. Duh 2.
Duh yourself. Fedites like you have been predicting Nadal's demise physically and ranking wise for years now. You are not saying anything new or groundbreaking.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=17045
“Seriously the tendons are much better today than three years ago,” Nadal told reporters. “The treatments worked fantastic. Even if today a really bad knee and last couple of days were tough for me, but positive thing the tendon improve a lot the last couple of years. I am more health with both tendons than now. So the treatments are working well. In 2009 I compete in very bad conditions a lot of times. For the last couple of years, 2010, 2011, I was able to compete with perfect conditions for almost all the year. So that's always fantastic when that's happening...I try my best in every moment with pain, without pain, but when I see the situation is done and I cannot, I cannot."
veritech
Hall of Fame
whoa, dated this year...
Atherton2003
Hall of Fame
I think if Nadal retires, Fed will be right behind him. One can't play without the other.
Mustard
Bionic Poster
"The treatments worked fantastic".
If Nadal is talking about blood spinning, it becomes less effective each time it is used. If he's talking about pain killers, it simply masks the pain, but the pain is still there even if he can't feel it due to the pain killing injections. It's pretty disturbing stuff, and I dread to think of the state of Nadal's joints when he is older.
And in regards to tendinitis, it never fully goes away. It has to be managed, rested etc.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
he said the treatments worked fantastic, he rarely plays with pain and that the tendons were much better than 2009.
so pray tell how is his condition worse than ever, given that he said that march 31st of this year?
now, can it be he suffered a setback, sure.
but its just all so strange that he hasnt come outright and said its the knees as usual. the media and speculators have said its the knees, team rafa has not though.
Spin Doctor
Professional
Where are you getting this information that its his cartilage? Has this been confirmed or is it just his tendons again? Completely different outcomes. If its cartilage, I agree with you that he is screwed.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
“Seriously the tendons are much better today than three years ago,” Nadal told reporters. “The treatments worked fantastic. Even if today a really bad knee and last couple of days were tough for me, but positive thing the tendon improve a lot the last couple of years. I am more health with both tendons than now. So the treatments are working well. In 2009 I compete in very bad conditions a lot of times. For the last couple of years, 2010, 2011, I was able to compete with perfect conditions for almost all the year. So that's always fantastic when that's happening...I try my best in every moment with pain, without pain, but when I see the situation is done and I cannot, I cannot."
Spin Doctor
Professional
This is what he said today? So what did he say the actual medical problem is if its not his tendons?
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
thats what he said march 31st of this year.
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=17045
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JustBob
Hall of Fame
There's no evidence that PRP injections can magically cure tendonitis. A 2011 study published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine showed that there was no difference in the results between those injected with PRP and the control group who were injected a placebo (saline solution).
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Could this be Nadal's strategic ploy to win the WTF for the first time?...
That made me laugh. It would be hilarious if it actually happened, as the anti-Nadal brigade would be up in arms insisting that he was "never injured."
Espn had an article talking ACL surgery. Is that a possible next step that would take at least 12 months he would probably be done due to his style of play. Dont know anything about his situation but is ACL a possible solution to tendinitis?
Also agree with the others if its bone on bone he should probably call it a career maybe doubles only
Also agree with the others if its bone on bone he should probably call it a career maybe doubles only
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Always wondered why professional tennis players don't tear their ACL like they do in the other sports, it must have something to do with it being a non-contact sport, the lateral movement, and the players being much thinner compared to other sports like american football and basketball
TheF1Bob
Banned
Well Fed hinted this at the PC, stating;
Personally, I think it's all PR crap from the lot of them i.e. like the WWE.
Raffy will be back in no time.
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Well Fed hinted this at the PC, stating;
Personally, I think it's all PR crap from the lot of them i.e. like the WWE.
Raffy will be back in no time.
Must you really troll at such an obviously serious time?
TheF1Bob
Banned
If he comes and says he's out for the season, needs surgery etc... fair enough, I'll take back my words but in the mean time, there's uncertainty about this serious injury he supposedly has. He and his team make it sound he shouldn't be walking yet he's on holiday having fun, no problems?
If he has tendinitis that bad, he shouldn't be doing them things.
Fact.
If Nadal had a torn ACL he'd be on crutches. We can safely say 100% it isn't his ACL. Probably just a bad case of the same tendinitis he's always had.
Sid_Vicious
G.O.A.T.
No, Bob. That is not a fact. Tendinitis can be very debilitating to an athlete who is playing a sport at a high level, but that does not mean they have to be on a wheelchair. They can still go to the beach, movies, fishing etc.
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