Nadal vs Djokovic. Who is greater?

Who is greater?


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Nole Slam

G.O.A.T.
Nadal

20 Slams
Olympic singles Gold
5 YE #1
209 weeks at #1
10-7 Slam H2H

Djokovic

20 Slams
5 YECs
7 YE #1
350+ weeks at #1

Vote and discuss.
 
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MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
The one that slayed at the height of modern tennis in epic kits :D as flashbulbs went off in near darkness, we also got the best commentary line of all time as he finally toppled Federer at Wimbledon: "There's a new king at the head of men's tennis...... And his name.... Is Rafael Nadal" :cool: goosebumps lol

 

BGod

Legend
With them being tied in Slams, the 5>0 WTFs, way more weeks at #1 should make it a guarantee for Novak. I'm not even talking about the spread of Slams with Novak being 9-2-6-3 as opposed to 1-13-2-4
 

beard

Legend
Is this even a question nowadays? :rolleyes:
Let's see if Nadal will put himself in front in slam race and then we will come back here...
 

Kralingen

Legend
I don’t think either is truly above the other by enough of a margin to choose.

Nadal’s failures are generally easier to explain, and he is probably the more unlucky of the two (injury/competition wise). And his clay dominance will never be matched imo.

Djokovic has a confusing peak without clear injuries like Nadal had to explain poor performance. however statistically I find Djokovic to be superior, and he is definitely the more accomplished and versatile player.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
About equal but I will give Novak a little bit edge
It’s not remotely equal. The OP neglected to mention that Djoker’s also won the doubles Masters and won all the slams twice. The only people making the claim Nadal has had the better career are either delusional or blind fan boys.

And I’m no fan of Djokovic, but it’s laughably obvious he has had the greater and better career. It’s not even close.
 
Yep, we can argue as much as we want about who is better, Nadal's clay peak is unmatched by the other two imo, but as far as who is the overall statistical Goat, I think it's a pretty clear cut at the moment.
 

RS

G.O.A.T.
Nadal is a injury effected player and his favourite surfaces play way less so this has to go to Nadal :p
 
Greater has to be Djokovic. Honestly at this point Djokovic probably has to be greater than Federer as well, but Nadal is clear cut. Greater isn't really subjective. Well there is some subjectivity, in that it is how you view achievements, but it is all about achievements, so there is limited subjectivity. Djokovic is ahead of Nadal in virtual every stat, and is tied in slam titles. That is all greatness is, so you can't really debate much.

Better is far more subjective. And that is where the debates will continually come between Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic. On here I am not sure. Nadal had the more iconic rivalry with Federer, than either of Djokovic's rivalries with Nadal or with Federer IMO. Djokovic at his best is probably a better player one very surface but clay, but Nadal on clay is clearly better than Djokovic on any surface, and the gap there is probably more than the gap on any surface. I think Nadal peaked generally at a tougher time for the game, and still wound up with for now (won't stay that way) the same number of slams. I would probably lean Djokovic there too (I personally think Federer is a better player than both), but that is a closer call.
 

lucky13

Semi-Pro
Nadal

20 Slams
Olympic singles Gold
5 YE #1
209 weeks at #1 (10-7 Slam H2H)

Djokovic

20 Slams
5 YECs
6 YE #1 (possibly 7)
341+ weeks at #1

Vote and discuss.
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slam finals: 31 - 28
h2h: 30 - 28
itf champ: 6 (7) - 4
best season: 2015
poits record: 16950
4 slams in a row - 3 slams in a row
2x CGS - 1 CGS
2x GM - no miami or paris (+shanghai)
better on HC+grass - better on clay
prize money: 153M$ - 125M$
 
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Sunny014

Legend
As an athlete Nadal is the ceiling of Tennis

Federer and Novak are inferior in athleticism and raw power.

Nadal is second to none in power and explosiveness, he is the GOAT as an athlete, he created prevented 3 generations of athletes from being ATGs in clay, now that is dominance.

In Tennis skills/achievements/stature Federer and Novak are ahead of Nadal, thats true.
 
As an athlete Nadal is the ceiling of Tennis

Federer and Novak are inferior in athleticism and raw power.

Nadal is second to none in power and explosiveness, he is the GOAT as an athlete, he created prevented 3 generations of athletes from being ATGs in clay, now that is dominance.

In Tennis skills/achievements/stature Federer and Novak are ahead of Nadal, thats true.
I agree but power I am not as sure on. If you mean pure penetration of shot, Nadal is probably behind both, largely due to the excess spin he puts on the ball. Although that makes his ball heavier but really only that effective on clay.
In Raw Stardom we all know who is Numero Uno


What would be crazy and kind of funny, is if due to the decline/seeming absence of both Federer and Nadal, Djokovic winds up winning the award at some point, while Nadal never winds up having won it, despite that over the years Nadal is far more popular than Djokovic.
 

Sunny014

Legend
I agree but power I am not as sure on. If you mean pure penetration of shot, Nadal is probably behind both, largely due to the excess spin he puts on the ball. Although that makes his ball heavier but really only that effective on clay.


What would be crazy and kind of funny, is if due to the decline/seeming absence of both Federer and Nadal, Djokovic winds up winning the award at some point, while Nadal never winds up having won it, despite that over the years Nadal is far more popular than Djokovic.
Novak has been more popular than Nadal for many years now.
Their earnings ratio per year swapped in 2014 when Novak made more money than Nadal and since he has had more endorsements than Nadal, this despite the fact that Novak is a star of 2010s decade while Nadal is an establishbed star of mid 2000s, along with Federer it was Nadal as well who grew in stardom. Yet Novak crossed Nadal by 2014

Plus Novak is from Serbia while Nadal is from Spain

No doubt that Novak is the bigger star among the 2.
 

topher

Hall of Fame
With 20 slams apiece, it’s close stats wise. Novak has the DCGS and NCYGS which are solid tiebreakers. All this other stuff is noise imo.

Novak will very likely get some more slams and make the statistical case airtight over Rafa and Roger, so there’s not much point in arguing the inevitable.

Outside of stats, all are welcome to their honest opinions on who is the greatest.
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
Nadal.
his 2008-2010 is better than any prolonged Djokovic period.
Usurped prime Federer.
Unrivalled dominance at a slam.
Etc
:giggle:
 

Nole Slam

G.O.A.T.
Wow.

25 fools who have failed to consider that 4>3 2>1 bud, and also that RG ‘20 was massive and the locker room believes the Olympic Singles gold is equivalent to a Slam
The purpose of this poll is a reality check. So brutal that I don't even need to vote.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
Numbers- Djokovic for now. Nadal is much more entertaining to watch though and a better tennis player if you ask me. Djokovic's mental strength after 2011 is the reason he is even in the conversation (+being injury free and super fit most of the time)
Nadal is also one of mentally toughest players of all time. It's Federer who often failed on big occasions. Nadal rarely did.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
stats wise one would say novak has surpassed both fedal.......but i am not comfortable accepting that he is the best of this generation due to a specific reason........until novak can even out the slam head to head which is 10-7 to rafa currently, he wouldn't reach the equal status with rafa if they both stay at 20.......slam battles is what tennis is all about.......since he has defeated rafa twice at roland garros, the surface excuse is out of the window as well.......
 
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