Nadal vs Federer U.S Open 2019 G.O.A.T MATCH

Turning Pro

Hall of Fame
So federer should win this, he's beaten Nadal 6-1 since 2014 and Nadal hasn't beaten him off clay since then either. He has the advantage of a much easier draw, more rest time between the semi's and the final. The stars are all aligned. However if he dosen't it means Nadal has the federer slam by beating him at All 4 majors, with a winning record at 3 of the 4 slams, also extending his gs head to head to 11-4 which is a major contributor in the G.O.A.T debate. He might be relegated to 3rd in the morning goat debate if and when novak catches up to him as well.

Also with Nadal missing around 6-9 gs due to injury since his peak AND being injured in quite a few of his matches in tournament (ferrer ao 11, wawrinka ao 14, nadal knee 5th set wimby 07, soderling 09 rg, 16 rg wrist injury) Nadal is lucky to be even this close in the gs record as he would have surely racked up at least 2-3 more gs if it wasn't for his injury prone body. Nadal also faced federer and novak more times than vice versa en route to his gs victories, wheras federer beat the likes of the baghdatis and roddicks to win quite of a few of his slams/final etc.
 

Krish0608

G.O.A.T.
So federer should win this, he's beaten Nadal 6-1 since 2014 and Nadal hasn't beaten him off clay since then either. He has the advantage of a much easier draw, more rest time between the semi's and the final. The stars are all aligned. However if he dosen't it means Nadal has the federer slam by beating him at All 4 majors, with a winning record at 3 of the 4 slams, also extending his gs head to head to 11-4 which is a major contributor in the G.O.A.T debate. He might be relegated to 3rd in the morning goat debate if and when novak catches up to him as well.

Also with Nadal missing around 6-9 gs due to injury since his peak AND being injured in quite a few of his matches in tournament (ferrer ao 11, wawrinka ao 14, nadal knee 5th set wimby 07, soderling 09 rg, 16 rg wrist injury) Nadal is lucky to be even this close in the gs record as he would have surely racked up at least 2-3 more gs if it wasn't for his injury prone body. Nadal also faced federer and novak more times than vice versa en route to his gs victories, wheras federer beat the likes of the baghdatis and roddicks to win quite of a few of his slams/final etc.

Here we go again.
 

ScottleeSV

Hall of Fame
You've written 3 false statements in there and 3 other things that are completely irrelevant to to the GOAT debate.

That's some going for 2 paragraphs.
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
Strangely I feel it is a bit more do or die for Roger, even though 21-18 would almost feel like the door being slammed shut, I think that if Rafa bagged 19 people would already begin preparing his coronation because he has been untouchable at RG for three consecutive years again and people assume he has 1-2+ more there at least.
 

Tommy Haas

Hall of Fame
By the time of the final, the court grit would be pretty worn down and favor Federer even more. Keeping balls low and fast. It could be AO 2017 all over again. This time Nadal better not choke in the 5th. It would be epic if he beat Federer on non-clay. It would definitely quiet all the Bull critics.
 
By the time of the final, the court grit would be pretty worn down and favor Federer even more. Keeping balls low and fast. It could be AO 2017 all over again. This time Nadal better not choke in the 5th. It would be epic if he beat Federer on non-clay. It would definitely quiet all the Bull critics.
If a repeat of AO17 conditions happens, fed won't even allow the match to go the distance this time around...
 

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
By the time of the final, the court grit would be pretty worn down and favor Federer even more. Keeping balls low and fast. It could be AO 2017 all over again. This time Nadal better not choke in the 5th. It would be epic if he beat Federer on non-clay. It would definitely quiet all the Bull critics.

It's interesting because I feel Nadal has a much improved serve since that meeting and yet somehow I think the matchup has during this time tilted more in Roger's favor off clay. Although to be fair, I really feel that Rafa had his chances at Wimbledon to win that match, particularly up a mini break in the first set tb. That's the thing about Roger these days, in an extended match you're almost guaranteed to see him have lapses in his level of play, and you need to be ready to take advantage.
 

Towny

Hall of Fame
I do think that if Fed and Nadal meet, Fed might be the slight favourite. But bear in mind that not only has Nadal been more successful in the summer hard court seing (winning Montreal), but he's also won the USO 3 times since Fed won his last one, including as recently as 2 years ago. The match, if it happens, could really go either way.

Nadal would be on 19 with Fed on 20. Nadal also has the significant lead in masters and would have a good chance at equalizing Fed's YE#1 record. Fed would have the massive advantage at the YEC. With RG only a couple of slams away, I would say Nadal would have a fairly good chance of equaling, or surpassing the slam record and possibly, in my eyes at least, becoming GOAT. He would still need to win more slams though. This USO wouldn't be enough.

As to the injuries, bear in mind that Fed has been injured too. Very good chance at Wimbledon 2016 if not injured IMO. Maybe even USO 2016 too: had Fed 2015 played that tournament, I expect he wins it.

Furthermore, injuries a part of the game. Nadal's body/style of play is more injury prone. It's also what allows him to win slam after slam. You can't take one without the other. It's not as though Nadal was hit by a car or something; these injuries are related to his body and his tennis
 
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