Nadal vs Kyrgios - Potential Wimbledon Round 3
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Yeah...its a conspiracy...they continually put journeymen in his draw to beat him
That made me spill my green tea. From 2012 to 2015 he lost to players ranked outside the top 100, so what does it need to be for it not to be a conspiracy? 6 walkovers into the final, with a Fedovic semi?
Shaolin
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Benjamin Rio
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If he'd go for it 1st point that would even be more hilarious.
Which important guys were notorious for having that kind of personal rivalry back then? I often rewatch old matches and know a lot about past results, but not much about such stuff (or at least not more than a few rumours about who disliked each other).
Pheasant
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Connors vs McEnroe, Connors vs Lendl, and most of all, McEnroe vs Lendl. McEnroe said that he had more talent in his pinky than Lendl had in his entire body. Not long after that, Lendl wound up and clobbered Mac with a bomb shot to the body while Mac was at the net. A couple of years later, Lendl said that Mac had no shot of beating him, since he lacked the footspeed and power to harm him. Later that year, Mac and Lendl met at the USO(quarters of the 1987 USO) and Lendl backed up his words by destroying Mac in straight sets. At one point, Lendl was 5/5 on topspin lobs during that match. Some of those lobs were hit on the run.
Towser83
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Yep how dare they screw him by making him face such giants of the game as Brown, Rosol, Muller, Kyrgios and Darcis. So much better than the players Fed had to defeat in his prime...
TheMaestro1990
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HetTheGreaterer
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Roger Federer versus Nickolas Kyrgious recent Head to Head Record..
2018 laver cup RR
RF def. NK 6-3 6-2
2018 USO 3R
RF def. NK 6-4 6-1 7-5
2018 Stuttgart SF
RF def. NK 6-7 6-2 6-7
He did push roger in early meetings in 2017 and 2015, and note that both of those versions of roger were much much better than 2018 Roger who just plainly smoked nick...
The thing is, Roger has found a way through.
StrongRule
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The match in Stuttgart was very close.
victorcruz
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Should be lit. If Rafa can win this, should give this humble beast the confidence needed to go deep.
Tennisgods
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If Nick makes it, expect Nadal to drop him in 3. I’m serious. 2014 was a while ago...
maximus
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Actually, bad publicity aside, I am rooting for Nick. I hope he can mature, give 100% focus and be able to fulfill his potential and win at least 1 GS before fading away.
goldenboot
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I really hope Nadal crushes him. Even us Australians are sick and tired of the spoiled brat
Even a narrow Nadal win will keep me happy though
Even a narrow Nadal win will keep me happy though
MichaelNadal
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Why are you constantly spitting green tea out?
I've been drinking a lot of green tea lately, it's epic
Wynter
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Wouldn't it make more sense for the Draw to Fix Nick vs Djokovic given the most recent events?
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Maybe. But since Nick can play potential spoiler here, I don't think they would be keen on having a side of the draw that is completely void of a big three member so early, think USO 2017 and how that other side was which didn't have one of the top three.
Day_Tripper
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One of the main reasons Nadal has failed to ever win the WTF is due to the fact that there is no such thing as an easy draw. You have to play the best. Some of his slam draw by contrast have been laughably easy.
VaporDude95
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Exactly
As an Aussie, I used to think he was a d!ck. But he definitely grew on me, and he very much brings a different light to tennis.
I’ll be rooting for him too.
VaporDude95
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You don’t talk for all of us mate.
I’d rather Nick win than Nadal. They’re both spoiled brats, but Nadal gets all the favours while nick gets none.
Time for a new face.
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Why are you constantly spitting green tea out?
I've been drinking a lot of green tea lately, it's epic
Because I am constantly drinking it.
And I finally agree with you about something being epic.
Why not make it round 1 then? No guarantee of Nick getting through. Or Nadal.
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MichaelNadal
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The draw (and every draw really) for the big 3 is a bit overtalked. Im not happy he's playing Nick R2, but honestly if he can't beat Nick he's not winning the title. I would much rather him be able to come through and then silence the haters.
StrongRule
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He didn't win WTF because he hardly plays it (like 3 times in 8 years) and because it is played on indoor hardcourt.
And no such hing as an easy draw? Yeah, tell me with a straight face that Djokovic's 2014 draw or Dimitrov's 2017 draw were not easy.
MichaelNadal
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Watch Rafa work him out in straights
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Watch Rafa work him out in straights
He probably will.
VaporDude95
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Watch Rafa work him out in straights
He couldn’t even push Cilic in Hurlingham.
Nadal vs Kyrgios on week 1 Wimbledon grass? Lol. He’s toast if Nick plays decently.
MichaelNadal
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Poisoned Slice
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Not hyped for Kyrgios vs Nadal yet. Not sure we will get it. Special K is hardly the most reliable most talented player ever.
He didn't win WTF because he hardly plays it (like 3 times in 8 years) and because it is played on indoor hardcourt.
And no such hing as an easy draw? Yeah, tell me with a straight face that Djokovic's 2014 draw or Dimitrov's 2017 draw were not easy.
He played it 8 times and has a 16-13 record there, which is beyond pathetic, really. He missed it in 2005 and 2008 when he was "still learning to play on HC's" (which is apparently a completely different sport), in 2012 when he shut down the season after getting Rosoled, in 2014 after he was losing left and right on grass and HC, in 2016 where he went 10-6 on HC with losses to DelPo, Nishi, Pouille, Coric, Dimitrov and Troicki.
If anything, he saved himself from being in the negative W/L record with all those "injuries". The only remote chance of actually contesting the WTF was probably 2018, but I don't think he'd do any better than the SF anyways.
VaporDude95
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Lol @ comparing Kyrgios to Rosol.
Benjamin Rio
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Probably.
Kyrgios has only played one good tournamenent in over a year.
At the race without Acapulco he would be ranked 152. Don't expect too much from him.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
He retied after one match in 2017 as well.
Benjamin Rio
Professional
3 times RR...
speedysteve
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Will need
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In fact, Federer was the one with a challenger draw at the AO 2018, as he won the title without facing Nadal or Djokovic, and faced Gasquet, old Berdych and an injured Chung (LOL). At RG 2019, Nadal faced the strongest clay players excluding Djokovic (Goffin, Federer and Thiem). Federer is the 5th best clay player at the moment, only behind Thiem, Djokovic and Goffin. So Nadal's RG 2019 draw was perfectly normal.
The Wimbledon 2019 draw is not "justice". It is borderline unfair and extremelly unlucky. The most brutal draw in the history of tennis.
Nadal has to face before the SF 4 top players:
1. Kyrgios
2. Tsonga (almost defeated Federer at Halle and many Fed fans were saying they Don't want Tsonga in their draw)
3. Cilic (Wimbledon finalist, has played 5 setters at Wimbledon with Federer and Djokovic)
4. Querrey (Eastbourne 2019 champion, defeated Djokovic at Wimbledon 2016).
Meanwhile, Federer has to face nobody before the SF. It is an issult to objectivity to say that "it is fair".
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StrongRule
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Lol, I like how Nadal facing Cilic in AO 2018 1/4 finals is a challenger draw but Federer facing him in the final is a very hard draw. Some Federer fans need to think sometimes.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Nadal will face Querrey in the QF, who will defeat Thiem in the first round.Good on grass? Thiem is a Wimbledon favorite to be fair.
Nothing to laugh about. Querrey is the 2019 Eastbourne champion and defeated Djokovic at Wimbledon 2016.
(Assuming Nadal reaches the QF, which is extremelly unlikely, given his draw from hell with Kyrgios, Tsonga and Cilic.)
Benjamin Rio
Professional
The scheduling + the conditions + the draw made it easy for Nadal at the FO.
Don't make too much of Kyrgios. He's played 1 good tournament in over a year. At the race he would be 152 without that win.
AO 2018 offered an easy draw to Fed. Still stronger field than Us open 2017.
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Querrey is really good on grass and has beaten Novak and Murray at Wimbledon.
Benjamin Rio
Professional
Fair coming from Nadal fans.....
1/ banning a referee
2/ FO 2019 easy draw+ good schedule + good conditions
3/ Us open 2017
4/ Faking injuries to justify bad losses.
It's a 1 in 16 chance of NK meeting a top 4 seed in the second round (albeit a simplistic calculation). It's a 1 in 2 chance of NK flipping his s*#t and storming out over something inconsequential before then. Not the wisest fixed draw of all time.I guess they didn't want to make THAT obvious, even though it already is.
Sephiroth
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What mighty opponents did Federer face at AO 2018? Struff, Gaschoke, Fucovic, Berdick, Chung before facing Cilic in the final? Whereas Nadal faced Cilic in the QF then would have to face Federer in the final thus making his draw harder than Federer's.
Tennis_Hands
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kevaninho
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So Nadal is the only player to have given Djokovic any sort of resistance in 2018 Wimbledon, and looked great in the process, yet everyone in his draw is seemingly favourite to beat him in 2019 LOL
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