Discussion in 'Pro Match Results and Discussion' started by roysid, Nov 23, 2011.
How bitter of you. Take a chill pill dude.
Just stating the facts there loser.
It's all really pretty simple.... RF has been playing an awesome tournament and is really good as an indoor player. RN has played a bad tournament and really sucks as an indoor player.
That's how I see it. Federer played brilliantly, Nadal barely showed up. Combination of both extremes.
Haha, poor baby gonna cry methinks The only fact is Nadal sucks.
Yeah that's a fair summary. I don't think Nadal played bad actually, he just sort of didn't play at all if you know what I mean. Looked like he knew it would require him to put in a lot of effort and couldn't summon the will to do it.
I think this year he's often faced Djokovic playing his best, and Nadal, so long the fighter has had a few matches where he couldn't face the uphill struggle, knowing he'd have to play at 100% concentration and determination to have a chance. When you keep making finals, doing all the hard work and then fail at the final push, it'll wear you down. Hence his increasing lack of interest.
I said a the start of this match that Djkoko and Nadal would probably go out early. This match does not hold any importance for either of them somehow. They have just come along to please the fans who want to see their icons. Nadal played the worst I have ever seen him play so I would rather not see him play here at all. So glad now I did not buy tickets!!
I heard that Nadal was so ill with food poisoning that he was intending to pull out of the tournament before the Fed match but decided not to after Murray withdrew. He said he didn't want to disappoint the fans,so he decided to play on. Something was obviously wrong with him during the last half of the Fish match and all the way through the rest of the tournement. Only diehard *******s would have you believe otherwise.
When does Nadal ever lose a match and not have an excuse? Seriously, I like Nadal but this aspect of his game drives me crazy.
If supposed food poisoning was not in the picture Nadal would still have lost. He sucks indoors especially against Federer. End of story. In addition Nadal has played some lousy tennis in the past six months.
All of these flakes and younger players such as Murray, Djokovic and Nadal keep on complaining. Federer is five years older and you don't hear him complain about injuries or retire every other match. Enough already.
In any case, it does not matter if Nadal was really ill or not. Last man standing wins and that is all that matters.
Right, like Nadal would not want to win the WTF. He said before the tournament that he worked hard to play well at the YEC and DC. Not having this title is a hole in his resume.
Djokovic has at least won this event before.
Skipped Paris so he could lose early at the wtf? Makes sense as far as motivation and intent goes.
And only diehard Nadal fans would attribute a loss to any excuse within reach. Just sayin.
And I'm just sayin' what I heard. He played like garbage throughout the whole tournie,and he has a TON of things to work on,but I do believe he had food poisoning that made his bad form even worse.
Sure! How could it be otherwise. I mean there was the issue with the knees, and the stomach and the stupid parents, passion, mojo, calm etc etc in the past. I've never heard an instance where he lost fair and square.
So I'm sure he had food poisoning and was on IV fluids between matches. Plus don't forget the bum shoulder and the lack of passion. (caused by insipid British food of course, no fault of his)
But Clarky, the point is there is always some injury or condition with Nadal when he loses a match. I mean seriously you are not a "nut" Nadal fan (you know those extreme fans I am talking about) and yet you fail to see this factor about Nadal?
Don't forget the burnt fingers and the broken foot! :twisted:
HAHAHAHA! Yeah Djokovic is always going on about being unwell, and you bring another Nadal injury/sickness story? Before the WTF even started you were going on about the shoulder to add to the knees, the burnt fingers, the foot from just this year alone, now the food poisoning was so bad that he continued in the Fish match, and won the last set but was still really sick 4 days later against Tsonga? Not disputing that he had some stomach sickness against Fish, but if he had something that effected him for 5 days, he woudn't have been able to continue that Fish match and even show up for the Federer one and then play Tsonga.
What and only diehard Federer fans would have you believe he wasn't suffering from food poisoning for 5 days whilst still winning a match, and playing 2 others, only losing the last one because he choked in the last set? Despite the fact that it's only something "you heard". Yeah anyone that doesn't take you, champion of biased ranting and double standards, at your word, is a *******.
Comedy post of the week :lol:
Bitter? About what? He/She simply pointed out the truth about the camps. I thought it was funny.
Sorry, TMF, I have never lived vicariously through a player and never will. Nadal losing a match is no sweat off of my brow. I can't understand the people who are so affected that they go around arguing with people over something that they can't control. Totally wonder about people like that, don't you?
I just hope he wins the Davis Cup.
RG+Davis Cup would make a great season, no?!
I can remember a time when Djokovic admitted openly that he wanted out of this tournament either last year or the year before. It is a pointless excercise. Many players have had enough by now what with the davis cup as well its too much for some of them that have had a hard year
I said there was a problem with his coaching or lack there of clear back at the beginning of the season after IW, if you recall, I suggested he needed to add a new coach to his team and let Toni step into the shadows a little bit.
I don't think you agreed with me than. Your finally opening your eyes although a little late kind of like team Nadal.
Where did you hear that?
A security guard told some Nadal fan on VB.
I would have thought by now that you would be able to feel
when any of the players were just not into a match considering your number of posts. At its best this match was an opportunity for the fans to see the top great players. I think only Federer has taken it seriously amongst the top four. Nothing to do with justifying anything regarding Nadal Dkjoko or Murray
2007 Rodge would've won 2008 Wimbledon too.
Sorry, what is VB..?
VamosBrigade, Rafa fangirl forum.
Not overly trustworthy I would say.
Such a fighter, such a warrior. Not only did he play Federer but he stayed on to even give Tsonga a big fight.
We really need more sportspeople like Nadal, putting his fans in front of himself.
This also goes to show how important this tournament is that Rafa should stay on even though sick, unlike what Rafa's fans are saying about this tournament being of no importance.
Nadal has a bum shoulder? When did this happen? Did he and Djokovic score a double KO on eachother after that brutal USO final. :lol:
I know Nadal had to serve his butt off in that match. Couldn't have been easy when you know you have to serve well against the best defender in the game.
How come Nadal is NEVER injured at all when Monte Carlo comes along? :-?
You like talking to dead people?
ok , Federer was never at his best in the defeats against Nadal either.
I believe he wasn't a hundred per cent when he dropped that set to Djokovic in the 2009 final! :wink:
If they are constantly in your face on the worldwidewebs then you have to !
Nadal definitely was not at his best, he's had a tough year with injuries along with Djokovic. Not just that but the indoor court played in Federer's favor, he hit's more through the court, while Nadal's spin on the indoor court doesn't produce as much kick. As far as the year is concerned Nadal would have had one of the best years ever if it wasn't for Djokovic playing out of his mind.
Did Djokovic really play out of his mind to beat Nadal or was Djokovic just finally fulfilling his true potential?
I could easily turn this around and say that it was Nadal who played out of his mind to achieve the results that he achieved in 2010 with his very unusual serve from USO 2010 which he never produced ever again.
On top of that, he played out of his mind to be making all the finals he made this year alone but finally met his true rival much like Federer met his true rival in Nadal.
If not for Nadal, Federer would've reeled off what...several Calendar Year Grand Slams? Maybe 23-24 Slams to date?
For Federer and Nadal to be racking up all those Slams...it just seemed far too easy. They both needed a real rival to step up. For Federer he got his rival in Nadal. And now Nadal gets his rival in Djokovic. It's only fair...
This doesn't seem related to my post at all. I have no idea what match you are referencing. I was talking about the camps and not living vicariously through perceived "heroes."
Nadal was mumbling to himself in that exo. He looked sluggish and sad too. But you are right, it is and exo and does not mean anything
Was he? I didn't see it. That's already a bad sign though. Im definitely not expecting much out of him in 2012. Cockyvic extinguished Nadal's internal fire for good I think.
That's a crock of sh*t. He was laughing and smiling,and didn't look like he was about to jump off a bridge or anything. Here's a video of him during the Ferrer match. Draw your own conclusions.
Nadal was not sad. He was laughing and joking around in the both the Ferrer and Federer matches (at least from the clips that I saw.)
Maybe, you can use one of these. It's good for you.
Believe me,I get plenty of hearty guffaws just from reading your posts alone. :lol:
Thank you. It's your pleasure
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