nadal will win 20+ majors, retire at 35

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1477aces

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Not exactly a fan of his, but I think this will (most likely) happen. In comparison to his pitiful main rival Djokovic (who has won as many slams in the past 2 years as old man Federer), he's still in far less deterioration, he has been slowed down a little, but he's still extremely fresh and physically fit for someone of the age of 28. I've (mistakenly) counted out Nadal several times in the past, and I won't make the same mistake, he'll keep coming back from the dead till it's all over. There isn't exactly much new talent on the tour, and even then, most of the (relatively) young players aren't great on clay which is hwere nadal will continue to dominate. The "rising" stars are already 23, 24, 25 which is supposed to be their peak, it will take someone who's a teenager now to dethrone nadal. I'm predicted he wins french open every year (except maybe once) till he's 33, 34, and win maybe 1-2 slams off of clay.
 
I still think no one can match nadal physically at roland garros, djokovic was tired out after 2 sets, and federer would usually break down after 3 sets in teh fianls.
 
ACE of Hearts said:
Nadal got 2 years left to win slams.He is not pulling a fed and last in his 30s
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That is what I think. I think he needs to make the most out of the next year and a half to two years. He has stated before that he plans to quit when he is 30 but of course things can change either way.
 
Nadal changed his mind about 'retiring at 30'. He recently mentioned something about 33, and has said he will keep playing for as long as he can compete for slams. I think being away from the game for 7 months changed his mind and made him love tennis more.

Federer couldn't even win slams for more than 8 years in a row. Nadal has won slams for 10 years in a row, with no end in sight.
 
After today, I wouldn't be surprised if a long time into the future Rafa were to come out of a retirement home and win RG. :shock:
 
Ok! we're getting ahead of ourselves! 20+ majors is a bit too extreme! He needs 6 majors to get to 20 and he isn't getting any younger. Let's see how it goes!
 
ACE of Hearts said:
Nadal got 2 years left to win slams.He is not pulling a fed and last in his 30s
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Look at him at 28 and fed at 28, nadal is in way better shape physically, he's still dominant. He wore down novak after just 2 sets, novak's declining faster than he is on clay, and that's the only guy standing in his way at RG, the young talent is pitiful and not really good at clay anyways.
 
RF20Lennon said:
Ok! we're getting ahead of ourselves! 20+ majors is a bit too extreme! He needs 6 majors to get to 20 and he isn't getting any younger. Let's see how it goes!
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Next 5 RG he should win most of them, he's still physically dominant and his generation is wearing down faster than him (djokovic, murray), and the young talent is still awful. Anything can happen, but I think it's certainly likely.
 
NADALRECORD said:
Not in this case. You have to stop winning slams for an end to be in sight. Nadal is too competitive to walk away as defending champion.
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Yes, he is still competitive but realistically he probably has another good year and a half to two years. He can do a lot of damage in that time however. You can see he has declined slightly. It is enough to win the big titles for now because the competition is pretty poor.
 
cc0509 said:
Yes, he is still competitive but realistically he probably has another good year and a half to two years. He can do a lot of damage in that time however. You can see he has declined slightly. It is enough to win the big titles for now because the competition is pretty poor.
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His main competition, pitiful as it is, is declining even faster. Djokovic was the one who was physically spent after 2 sets today. I said it to my friend as I was watching even as nadal was down a set at 2-2 in the 2nd, "he'll win in 4, he's already starting to break down djokovic physically."
 
1477aces said:
His main competition, pitiful as it is, is declining even faster. Djokovic was the one who was physically spent after 2 sets today. I said it to my friend as I was watching even as nadal was down a set at 2-2 in the 2nd, "he'll win in 4, he's already starting to break down djokovic physically."
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Personally, I think Djokovic's meltdown was more mental than physical. Nadal looked spent as well which is unusual for him.
 
cc0509 said:
Personally, I think Djokovic's meltdown was more mental than physical. Nadal looked spent as well which is unusual for him.
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People have been saying nadal is declining physically since 09, I bought it every time. Now I am no longer as gullible. You could also see djokovic panting between points, he couldn't match nadal's intensity.
 
When Fed was at 16, he said he wanted/could get 20 before he retires. It is nice to have a goal but when the decline comes it comes quick. But when he was at 16 most people still believed 20 is "modest".
 
cc0509 said:
Yes, he is still competitive but realistically he probably has another good year and a half to two years.
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That doesn't sound realistic. It sounds like you are taking a stab in the dark.

Nadal is at his hardcourt peak now, and we don't know how many years that may last. Last year Nadal became the only man ever to win Indian Wells, Canada, Cincy, US Open. And he was close to capturing another AO (and the AO is the slam he struggles at most). So I don't see an end in sight for Nadal at the hardcourt slams.
 
I am surprise nadal has lasted this much with his game.He is no spring chicken.I really could see the decline soon so u nadal fans better enjoy it lol.I think he could catch roger.I think roger needs to pull a 2006 and find a way to win wimbledon.
 
NADALRECORD I bet u believe nadal walks on water too.The human body can only take so much unless u maybe believe nadal is an alien disguise as a tennis player lol or nadal is the most perfectly trained athlete in the world imo
 
There is a big difference between winning US Opens and being an alien. Thanks to stem-cell therapy in December 2013, Nadal's knees are better now than they were last year. Nadal just said it himself-

"I am going to Halle tomorrow. I hope my knee will have the positive feelings on grass. I feel it better on the other surfaces this year compared to 12 months ago. I love Wimbledon, that’s why I know it’s a strong decision for me to go to Halle straight away, but really, I can’t miss the tournament twice. I will try my best. Probably the result will not be the perfect one, considering all the fatigue and the sudden change of surface. But I really want to try my best".

Anyway, the majority of Talk Tennis (and the internet overall) has made a fool of itself for the last 10 years regarding Nadal......so keep fooling yourselves, while Nadal continues to walk all over your reputations. I'll return to this thread when Nadal stomps on 17.
 
NADALRECORD said:
There is a big difference between winning US Opens and being an alien. Thanks to stem-cell therapy in December 2013, Nadal's knees are better now than they were last year. Nadal just said it himself-

"I am going to Halle tomorrow. I hope my knee will have the positive feelings on grass. I feel it better on the other surfaces this year compared to 12 months ago. I love Wimbledon, that’s why I know it’s a strong decision for me to go to Halle straight away, but really, I can’t miss the tournament twice. I will try my best. Proably the result will not be the perfect one, considering all the fatigue and the sudden change of surface. But I really want to try my best".

Anyway, the majority of Talk Tennis (and the internet overall) has made a fool of itself for the last 10 years regarding Nadal......so keep fooling yourselves, while Nadal continues to walk all over your reputations. I'll return to this thread when Nadal stomps on 17.
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Nadal would have won his 18th major this time next year. And achieve the Rafa Slam. So Fed fanboys will have nothing to cling themselves on.
 
1477aces said:
People have been saying nadal is declining physically since 09, I bought it every time. Now I am no longer as gullible. You could also see djokovic panting between points, he couldn't match nadal's intensity.
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I am with you in that I have learned that with Nadal nothing is impossible and I still think he is THE biggest contender for slams but the window has to shorten, it always does.
 
NADALRECORD said:
That doesn't sound realistic. It sounds like you are taking a stab in the dark.

Nadal is at his hardcourt peak now, and we don't know how many years that may last. Last year Nadal became the only man ever to win Indian Wells, Canada, Cincy, US Open. And he was close to capturing another AO (and the AO is the slam he struggles at most). So I don't see an end in sight for Nadal at the hardcourt slams.
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LOL, coming from you that is funny. You are not exactly first in the realism game.
 
If not Nadal, somebody will win 20+ slams under current tour condition.

Most #1's will do career slam and 4 straight slam win is very much possible.

It is between 70s-90's when winning slam was harder due to polarized
surface condition.

We have to give more respect to players in 70s-90s, therefore.
 
Truely dominating player, in a given decade under current homogeneous surface
condition of ATP (since 2003), will win ~20+ slam.

Just like pre-Open era which, with 3 slams on classic fast grass, they
had a few players (like Laver, Gonzalez, Rosewall) who won ~20+ slams
(pro + amateur).

Why do you think 70s-90s was left out?
 
There are still opportunities for him to win 6 more Slams and get to 20. He only needs 2 great seasons in order for that to happen, and he looks much fresher and more motivated than he did previously.

He is due a big win over Djokovic soon, and when that happens, the floodgates will be open and Djokovic will likely not be beating him any time soon.

Anyway, let's just wait to see how he does after building up wrecking-ball levels of momentum this clay season.
 
To be fair to OP, Nadal at the time of winning the FO 2014 title had competed in four of the last five slam finals, and won three of them. Djokovic has lost several big matches to Nadal and Murray, Federer was having a miserable 2013, so the path seemed clear. Of course in sports nothing is for sure, but at the point the trend was looking at Nadal possibly finishing with 18 slams or more.
 
Gorecki said:
and this thread, kids, is why most of the times, you only are making yourselves look foolish when you try to predict "stone set" paths of glory.

it happened before, and since you dingbats seem to get no clue, it will continue to happen!!!

Because most of you cant grasp the concept that, in top ranking tennis, sustain levels of 2\3\4 slams per year is the ultimate challenge, and therefore, saying Player A will win the next 7612486124 slams because there is no competition is the greatest ox feces this fórum produces!

now let the "Djokovic will win the next 2030293 slams" predictions flow...
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Absolutely right and this is why some kids should stop weak era crap , as you have rightly said that it is not easy to sustain 2 or 3slam a year level.
 
If this thread isn't a proof that Djokovic doesn't have a prayer for catching Fed's clam count, or even Nadal's for that matter, then i don't know what it is...o_O
 
1477aces said:
LOL at myself
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Don't LOL at yourself. You made the same mistake that people always do--making statements after one result:
1. Nadal wins FO 2014: Nadal will win 20 slams
2. Djokovic lost FO 2014 final: Djokovic will never win a slam again
3. Djokovic wins FO 2016: Djokovic will win the CYGS (and gold)
4. Nadal beats Djokovic at the USO 2013 final: Djokovic will never beat Nadal at a slam again
5. Djokovic lost to Querry at Wimbledon: Djokovic is in a decline (even though the guy was just holding all four slams and WTF at the same time)
.... and so

I suggest people to take a step back before they type this type of statements right after important matches.
 
In two years everyone will be looking back at the 'Djokvic will win 17' posts and laughing at themselves. Djokovic will finish with 13-14 then decline. This thread corroborates my theory.
 
1477aces said:
Not exactly a fan of his, but I think this will (most likely) happen. In comparison to his pitiful main rival Djokovic
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Stopped reading right there. I'm no fan of Novak but he's anything but "pitiful." If he's "pitiful," whey does he have a favorable H2H against Nadal when they're only separated by one year in age and they've played 50 matches against each other? Care to delve into that? :eek:
 
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