Nadal withdraws from Paris !

Fiero425

Hall of Fame
Federer started skipping when he was 35 and his first season of skipping was post knee surgery.

:cool:
Nadal's been half-arsing the Fall season for years; hence his abysmal record only making a couple finals in Paris & London! He normally shuts it down for all intense and purposes after the USO; mentally/emotionally I'd say after the FO award ceremony! :-D
 
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Mike Sams

Legend
Would've been great to see another Djokodal final if Rafa hadn't had the abdominal strain. He is the only person equipped to match up against Novak on HC when Novak is in this type of form imo.
Not really. Nadal's barely won sets in their best of 3 HC meetings the past 7-8 years. Seems Nadal got spooked when he saw the scoreline for Djokovic/Tsitsipas and felt it would be better to hop on out of there. Good move I guess. It would've been a bludgeoning.
Nadal goes into clay mode when he meets Djokovic on hards and doesn't realize his topspin FH to the Djokovic BH doesn't come up high enough. It basically goes into Djokovic's wheelhouse. Seems Moya and them don't even bother trying anything different. Just the same pattern of play. Nadal doesn't want to risk hitting hard and flat for whatever reason. He's rather hardheaded in trying to change things up. Much the same way Djokovic doesn't really know how to play Stanimal any different other than to go toe to toe from the baseline. And he can't do anything against the Stanimal from the baseline.
 

Enceladus

Hall of Fame
It is obviously, Nadal didn't want to worsen his H2H with Djoker and above all for that reason he withdraw. His injury is just an unpleasant pain, with which he would play a match against Shapovalov, if Djoker hadn't been waiting in the final.
 

joekapa

Legend
Rafa did the right move not playing Djoko now. His move was intentional, no matter what anybody says. He is saving himself for WTO. He knows that that is where the no1 spot will be played at.


Well played Nadal well played.

But make no mistake it was intentional. He would NEVER pull out of a clay court match with such an "injury".
 

AceSalvo

Legend
“Federer unabashedly skips the ENTIRE CLAY SEASON and they don't say anything.”

Some folks are busy equating “skipping” a whole season to mid tournament “withdrawals” (in yesterday’s case after the finalist is known to be Djokovic). Apparently feeding on sour food has its consequences. Oh, there is one player I know who skipped a whole season before Fed did the same. :p
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Rafa did the right move not playing Djoko now. His move was intentional, no matter what anybody says. He is saving himself for WTO. He knows that that is where the no1 spot will be played at.


Well played Nadal well played.

But make no mistake it was intentional. He would NEVER pull out of a clay court match with such an "injury".
I didn't know that Djoko fanatics also have an imaginary world (besides Fed devotees).
 

joekapa

Legend
I didn't know that Djoko fanatics also have an imaginary world (beside Fed devotees).
Look, it's simple. Nadal made the wisest move considering the circumstances. There was NO benefit playing Djokovic now. In fact it would have had a negative impact if he played and lost.....heading into WTO.
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Look, it's simple. Nadal made the wisest move considering the circumstances. There was NO benefit playing Djokovic now. In fact it would have had a negative impact if he played and lost.....heading into WTO.
Rafa said clearly he didn't want to risk aggravating the abdominal injury. He has a bad experience from the 2009 USO.
 

Sunny Ali

Hall of Fame
Not really. Nadal's barely won sets in their best of 3 HC meetings the past 7-8 years. Seems Nadal got spooked when he saw the scoreline for Djokovic/Tsitsipas and felt it would be better to hop on out of there. Good move I guess. It would've been a bludgeoning.
Nadal goes into clay mode when he meets Djokovic on hards and doesn't realize his topspin FH to the Djokovic BH doesn't come up high enough. It basically goes into Djokovic's wheelhouse. Seems Moya and them don't even bother trying anything different. Just the same pattern of play. Nadal doesn't want to risk hitting hard and flat for whatever reason. He's rather hardheaded in trying to change things up. Much the same way Djokovic doesn't really know how to play Stanimal any different other than to go toe to toe from the baseline. And he can't do anything against the Stanimal from the baseline.
Superb points, Mike (y)
 

ibbi

Legend
He looks entirely unbothered in the press conference talking about it. My guess is he got the points he wants here, knew the week probably wasn't going to end well, and is saving whatever he has in the tank for London.
 
Rafa said clearly he didn't want to risk aggravating the abdominal injury. He has a bad experience from the 2009 USO.
Rafa made it clear as day. He said had if he continued to play, he might have won, and then would play Djoker. After those two matches, his current minor tear would be much larger and therefore would risk another USO 09 issue where he has to take a full month off. If the tear goes down, maybe he will play WTF, but if not, then dont see why he would, unless he sees it as a risk worthwhile considering he will have a full month plus off after.
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Rafa made it clear as day. He said had if he continued to play, he might have won, and then would play Djoker. After those two matches, his current minor tear would be much larger and therefore would risk another USO 09 issue where he has to take a full month off. If the tear goes down, maybe he will play WTF, but if not, then dont see why he would, unless he sees it as a risk worthwhile considering he will have a full month plus off after.
You put words into Rafa's mouth in your second sentence.
 
Federer unabashedly skips the ENTIRE CLAY SEASON and they don't say anything, claiming Federer deserves it. I still recall the names I was called when I questioned the fact he was given a pass but past players or other professional athletes weren't. I did it out of fairness, not out of hatred of him.

Now Nadal skips a few hc matches for good reasons (unless they can prove him guilty), they have the audacity to question his motives? If Nadal is really purposefully doing it and we talk about mileage, hasn't Nadal been around for long enough to deserve it too?

The point I'm making is simple and not directed against anyone: people are self-serving, and so are Fed and Nadal? Why act surprised and cry wolf using double standards?
Fed got raked through the coals on TTW for skipping Clay.
 

beard

Professional
Yeah but you type in Nadal on Google and it comes up as the first 2-3 results, people are bound to click on it and read it and probably believe it. I mean Nadal took his beating like a man at AO 2019 and could've pulled out if he was scared and that's a bigger hunting ground for Novak too vs Paris, but didn't.
Its not how Google works... For me that site wouldn't be even in first thousand results...
 

Tennis_Hands

Talk Tennis Guru
Multiple, but I can promise you that that WTF will be a carnage. No one will come out of it unscathed. Both Nadal and Djoke will post losses in the group stages and that would favour the Nadal (if he turns up, of course, but I think that he will). The group draws will be crucial. Imagine Feddie boy and Imhotep in one group with everything on the line from the get go!

:laughing:
8-B
 

octobrina10

G.O.A.T.
Don't give a **** about Fed, I know the Mallorcan is a cheat, look at him ffs.

Muscles on him like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1970s, profusely sweating.

Doped to his eyeballs he is.
You are cheating TTW readers by making up a story about Rafa.
 
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