Nadal won most of his Slams against Weak Competition

[DRII]

Um, over 50% of the people consider Federer the GOAT. You are free to make a poll to substantiate my claim (which you know is true)

please don't ever confuse this forum as 'the people'! this is Fedland...

and I even think Federer is the relative GOAT, mainly substantiated because of what he did in 2012 at his age and miles against at least 2 other all time greats...

 

[kishnabe]

Any 10+ Slam Winners had weak competition.

 

[DRII]

the old "Nadal can only be beaten if injured" line. And they call Federer fans arrogant! Lol. claiming a player can only lose because of injury is the most arrogant statement ever. you will maybe learn about a biological process called aging, which brings a ever increasing loss of speed, stamina and concentration.

and perhaps you'll learn that ailing can certainly include aging! thats the difference, injury is acute, ailing is longer-term and gradual.

Federer is ailing right now, mostly due to age and such consistent longevity/miles at the top.

now get back to your puppy!

and yep, Nadal has only lost at the French when injured or ailing! I suggest you deal with reality. Nole didn't even beat Nadal this year with his bad knee...

 

[TMF]

Soderling beat Nadal fair and square. There was no injury for an 23 years old who's the most fit player on the tour..

 

[DRII]

i don't see why Djokovic would not be able to beat a healthy Nadal at the French :shock: anyone who knows a bit about tennis, knows he is a way bigger threat to Nadal than Roger used to be

then why didn't he beat Nadal this year at the French when Nadal's knee was obviously bothering him and hampering his movement

anything is possible, but no player is realistically beating a healthy Nadal at the French, although Nole has the best chance until some young buck comes up and shows amazing clay court talent...

 

[DRII]

Soderling beat Nadal fair and square. There was no injury for an 23 years old who's the most fit player on the tour..

right, he just skipped Wimbledon a few weeks later for the hell of it and relatively easily dismissed Soderling the very next year at the French due to luck

dream on...

 

[Smasher08]

Just like Federer beat the Weak Era Clowns from 2003-2007 to rack up most of his Slams, Nadal beat Weaker Era Clowns from 2005-2013 to rack up most of his Slams. As we know, 8 of Nadal's 12 Slams (an overwhelming 66.67% of Nadal's Slams) have come at Roland Garros, which make up a majority. If we examine his competition at Roland Garros over the years, we see that he dominated a bunch of total Clowns on Clay, making his Slams mean nothing, just like Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. After all, Quality > Quantity. So 8 of Nadal's Slams mean nothing, just like all of Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. For those who insist Nadal played against great competition at the French Open, let's have a look, shall we?



Rafael Nadal
2005 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Lars Burgsmuller (6-1, 7-6, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Xavier Malisse (6-2, 6-2, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Richard Gasquet (6-4, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Sebastien Grosjean (6-4, 3-6, 6-0, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (7-5, 6-2, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 6-3)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Mariano Puerta (6-7, 6-3, 6-1, 7-5)

2006 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-2, 7-5, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Kevin Kim (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Paul-Henri Mathieu (5-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-2, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4 ret.)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (1-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6)

2007 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Martin del Potro (7-5, 6-3, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Flavio Cipolla (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Albert Montanes (6-1, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-1, 7-6)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Carlos Moya (6-4, 6-3, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-4, 6-2)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4)

2008 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Devilder (6-4, 6-0, 6-1)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Jarkko Nieminen (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Verdasco (6-1, 6-0, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (6-1, 6-1, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)

2009 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Marcos Daniel (7-5, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Teymuraz Gabashvili (6-1, 6-4, 6-2)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Robin Soderling def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)

2010 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Gianni Mina (6-2, 6-2, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Horacio Zeballos (6-2, 6-2, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-4, 6-3)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (6-2, 7-5, 6-4)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 7-6, 6-4)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Jurgen Melzer (6-2, 6-3, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-2, 6-4)

2011 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. John Isner (6-4, 6-7, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Pablo Andujar (7-5, 6-3, 7-6)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Antonio Veic (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (7-5, 6-3, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-1, 7-6)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Andy Murray (6-4, 7-5, 6-4)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1)

2012 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Simone Bolelli (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Denis Istomin (6-2, 6-2, 6-0)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Eduardo Schwank (6-1, 6-3, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Monaco (6-2, 6-0, 6-0)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 6-2, 6-3)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)

2013 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Daniel Brands (4-6, 7-6, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Martin Klizan (4-6, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Fabio Fognini (7-6, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Kei Nishikori (6-4, 6-1, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Stanislas Wawrinka (6-2, 6-3, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7, 9-7)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-3, 6-2, 6-3)



As you can see, he has only ever faced 2 French Open Champions in all his campaigns there: Federer and Moya. Of them, he faced Moya only once, and that was when Moya was almost 31, a full 9 years after he won at Roland Garros. So that win means nothing, he merely beat a Grannie. His biggest competition has been Federer, who is merely a 1-time French Open Champion. Not to mention, Clay happens to be his weakest surface. So Nadal's main competition at the French Open has been a guy whose weakest surface is Clay. LOL! Talk about a WEAK ERA! :lol: Nadal had to beat just one French Open Champion, and that guy's weakest surface is Clay, haha. And don't even get me started on how bad of a match-up Nadal is for Federer, particularly on Clay. Even Federer, in his domination of the 2003-2007 Weak Era, had to beat Agassi, Safin and Djokovic at the Australian Open, Hewitt, Nadal at Wimbledon, Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick at the US Open. In other words, Federer had to beat multiple former Champions at each of the Slams he dominated, even in his Weak Era. Nadal had to beat just one. How much more weaker is that? LOL! So Nadal is a WEAKEST ERA CHAMPION :lol:


PS - Fellow Federer fans,

Yep, he typically has only had to play 1-2 real matches per tournament. If Fed thrived in a weak era, Nads has been the King of the Cupcake Draw!

 

[Smasher08]

the old "Nadal can only be beaten if injured" line. And they call Federer fans arrogant! Lol. claiming a player can only lose because of injury is the most arrogant statement ever. you will maybe learn about a biological process called aging, which brings a ever increasing loss of speed, stamina and concentration.

This ^^

The funny thing is how they then accuse the other side of being "delusional"!

 

[Fiji]

I concur. His slams off clay were won in a transitional era after Federer's peak and before Djokovic's peak. What an opportunist Nadal is.

 

[TMF]

right, he just skipped Wimbledon a few weeks later for the hell of it and relatively easily dismissed Soderling the very next year at the French due to luck

dream on...

He was like a machine before he met Soderling. There's no way when a player who was indestructible and then finally find himself in a wheelchair. No way.

 

[Towser83]

please don't ever confuse this forum as 'the people'! this is Fedland...

and I even think Federer is the relative GOAT, mainly substantiated because of what he did in 2012 at his age and miles against at least 2 other all time greats...

that's actually quite big of you... not that I believe there is a GOAT

and perhaps you'll learn that ailing can certainly include aging! thats the difference, injury is acute, ailing is longer-term and gradual.

Federer is ailing right now, mostly due to age and such consistent longevity/miles at the top.

now get back to your puppy!

and yep, Nadal has only lost at the French when injured or ailing! I suggest you deal with reality. Nole didn't even beat Nadal this year with his bad knee...

When you get older it doesn't always mean you are physically unable to compete at a high level, you can just lose concentraition and hunger to fight every point but be still healthy and technically able to play well. You can just have a bad day at the office more often. You willlose speed and stamina but that doesn't mean you are ailing. Fed had less stamina and speed last year compared to his prime but he was still in good shape. But what you meant was "djokovic will only win RG if Nadal gets older"? well of course he will get older...

As good as anyone is, I don't think they are going to win 10 or 11 slams at one slam even in good health. Something will go wrong. And nice brining up a knee problem when Nadal said he wouldonly play if he was healthy.. you're only bringing up the knee because he got taken to 5 sets, even that is too much for you to take. Question - is Nadal ever healthy? Because it seems like he hasn't been since what, IW 2011?

Oh and seriously, you need to get over your bizarre obsession with my dog. I have a dog. So what? Did you not have a puppy as a child and that'sthe root of your weird behaviour? People have pets.You might as well go on about me owning a pair of shoes in every reply to me for all the relevance it has.

 

[storypeddler]

Just like Federer beat the Weak Era Clowns from 2003-2007 to rack up most of his Slams, Nadal beat Weaker Era Clowns from 2005-2013 to rack up most of his Slams. As we know, 8 of Nadal's 12 Slams (an overwhelming 66.67% of Nadal's Slams) have come at Roland Garros, which make up a majority. If we examine his competition at Roland Garros over the years, we see that he dominated a bunch of total Clowns on Clay, making his Slams mean nothing, just like Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. After all, Quality > Quantity. So 8 of Nadal's Slams mean nothing, just like all of Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. For those who insist Nadal played against great competition at the French Open, let's have a look, shall we?



Rafael Nadal
2005 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Lars Burgsmuller (6-1, 7-6, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Xavier Malisse (6-2, 6-2, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Richard Gasquet (6-4, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Sebastien Grosjean (6-4, 3-6, 6-0, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (7-5, 6-2, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 6-3)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Mariano Puerta (6-7, 6-3, 6-1, 7-5)

2006 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-2, 7-5, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Kevin Kim (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Paul-Henri Mathieu (5-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-2, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4 ret.)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (1-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6)

2007 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Martin del Potro (7-5, 6-3, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Flavio Cipolla (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Albert Montanes (6-1, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-1, 7-6)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Carlos Moya (6-4, 6-3, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-4, 6-2)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4)

2008 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Devilder (6-4, 6-0, 6-1)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Jarkko Nieminen (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Verdasco (6-1, 6-0, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (6-1, 6-1, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)

2009 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Marcos Daniel (7-5, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Teymuraz Gabashvili (6-1, 6-4, 6-2)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Robin Soderling def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)

2010 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Gianni Mina (6-2, 6-2, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Horacio Zeballos (6-2, 6-2, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-4, 6-3)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (6-2, 7-5, 6-4)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 7-6, 6-4)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Jurgen Melzer (6-2, 6-3, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-2, 6-4)

2011 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. John Isner (6-4, 6-7, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Pablo Andujar (7-5, 6-3, 7-6)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Antonio Veic (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (7-5, 6-3, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-1, 7-6)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Andy Murray (6-4, 7-5, 6-4)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1)

2012 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Simone Bolelli (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Denis Istomin (6-2, 6-2, 6-0)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Eduardo Schwank (6-1, 6-3, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Monaco (6-2, 6-0, 6-0)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 6-2, 6-3)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)

2013 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Daniel Brands (4-6, 7-6, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Martin Klizan (4-6, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Fabio Fognini (7-6, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Kei Nishikori (6-4, 6-1, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Stanislas Wawrinka (6-2, 6-3, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7, 9-7)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-3, 6-2, 6-3)



As you can see, he has only ever faced 2 French Open Champions in all his campaigns there: Federer and Moya. Of them, he faced Moya only once, and that was when Moya was almost 31, a full 9 years after he won at Roland Garros. So that win means nothing, he merely beat a Grannie. His biggest competition has been Federer, who is merely a 1-time French Open Champion. Not to mention, Clay happens to be his weakest surface. So Nadal's main competition at the French Open has been a guy whose weakest surface is Clay. LOL! Talk about a WEAK ERA! :lol: Nadal had to beat just one French Open Champion, and that guy's weakest surface is Clay, haha. And don't even get me started on how bad of a match-up Nadal is for Federer, particularly on Clay. Even Federer, in his domination of the 2003-2007 Weak Era, had to beat Agassi, Safin and Djokovic at the Australian Open, Hewitt, Nadal at Wimbledon, Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick at the US Open. In other words, Federer had to beat multiple former Champions at each of the Slams he dominated, even in his Weak Era. Nadal had to beat just one. How much more weaker is that? LOL! So Nadal is a WEAKEST ERA CHAMPION :lol:


PS - Fellow Federer fans,

LOL. No. No. No. Repeat---NO. LOL. Let it go. son.

 

[cknobman]

The only thing worse than winning tons of slams against clowns is NOT WINNING tons of slams against clowns even though you competed in the tournament and got whipped in the early rounds.

---> looks in Nadals and every other player on tour direction

 

[rajah84]

Just like Federer beat the Weak Era Clowns from 2003-2007 to rack up most of his Slams, Nadal beat Weaker Era Clowns from 2005-2013 to rack up most of his Slams. As we know, 8 of Nadal's 12 Slams (an overwhelming 66.67% of Nadal's Slams) have come at Roland Garros, which make up a majority. If we examine his competition at Roland Garros over the years, we see that he dominated a bunch of total Clowns on Clay, making his Slams mean nothing, just like Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. After all, Quality > Quantity. So 8 of Nadal's Slams mean nothing, just like all of Federer's Slams from 2003-2007. For those who insist Nadal played against great competition at the French Open, let's have a look, shall we?



Rafael Nadal
2005 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Lars Burgsmuller (6-1, 7-6, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Xavier Malisse (6-2, 6-2, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Richard Gasquet (6-4, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Sebastien Grosjean (6-4, 3-6, 6-0, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (7-5, 6-2, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-4, 6-3)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Mariano Puerta (6-7, 6-3, 6-1, 7-5)

2006 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-2, 7-5, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Kevin Kim (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Paul-Henri Mathieu (5-7, 6-4, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-2, 5-7, 6-4, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-4 ret.)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (1-6, 6-1, 6-4, 7-6)

2007 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Martin del Potro (7-5, 6-3, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Flavio Cipolla (6-2, 6-1, 6-4)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Albert Montanes (6-1, 6-3, 6-2)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-1, 7-6)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Carlos Moya (6-4, 6-3, 6-0)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (7-5, 6-4, 6-2)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-3, 4-6, 6-3, 6-4)

2008 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (7-5, 6-3, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Devilder (6-4, 6-0, 6-1)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Jarkko Nieminen (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Fernando Verdasco (6-1, 6-0, 6-2)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (6-1, 6-1, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-2, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)

2009 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Marcos Daniel (7-5, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Teymuraz Gabashvili (6-1, 6-4, 6-2)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-1, 6-3, 6-1)
R16: Robin Soderling def. Rafael Nadal (6-2, 6-7, 6-4, 7-6)

2010 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Gianni Mina (6-2, 6-2, 6-2)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Horacio Zeballos (6-2, 6-2, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Lleyton Hewitt (6-3, 6-4, 6-3)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Thomaz Bellucci (6-2, 7-5, 6-4)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 7-6, 6-4)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Jurgen Melzer (6-2, 6-3, 7-6)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-2, 6-4)

2011 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. John Isner (6-4, 6-7, 6-7, 6-2, 6-4)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Pablo Andujar (7-5, 6-3, 7-6)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Antonio Veic (6-1, 6-3, 6-0)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Ivan Ljubicic (7-5, 6-3, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Robin Soderling (6-4, 6-1, 7-6)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Andy Murray (6-4, 7-5, 6-4)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Roger Federer (7-5, 7-6, 5-7, 6-1)

2012 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Simone Bolelli (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Denis Istomin (6-2, 6-2, 6-0)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Eduardo Schwank (6-1, 6-3, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Juan Monaco (6-2, 6-0, 6-0)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Nicolas Almagro (7-6, 6-2, 6-3)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-2, 6-2, 6-1)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 6-3, 2-6, 7-5)

2013 French Open
R128: Rafael Nadal def. Daniel Brands (4-6, 7-6, 6-4, 6-3)
R64: Rafael Nadal def. Martin Klizan (4-6, 6-3, 6-3, 6-3)
R32: Rafael Nadal def. Fabio Fognini (7-6, 6-4, 6-4)
R16: Rafael Nadal def. Kei Nishikori (6-4, 6-1, 6-3)
QF: Rafael Nadal def. Stanislas Wawrinka (6-2, 6-3, 6-1)
SF: Rafael Nadal def. Novak Djokovic (6-4, 3-6, 6-1, 6-7, 9-7)
FR: Rafael Nadal def. David Ferrer (6-3, 6-2, 6-3)



As you can see, he has only ever faced 2 French Open Champions in all his campaigns there: Federer and Moya. Of them, he faced Moya only once, and that was when Moya was almost 31, a full 9 years after he won at Roland Garros. So that win means nothing, he merely beat a Grannie. His biggest competition has been Federer, who is merely a 1-time French Open Champion. Not to mention, Clay happens to be his weakest surface. So Nadal's main competition at the French Open has been a guy whose weakest surface is Clay. LOL! Talk about a WEAK ERA! :lol: Nadal had to beat just one French Open Champion, and that guy's weakest surface is Clay, haha. And don't even get me started on how bad of a match-up Nadal is for Federer, particularly on Clay. Even Federer, in his domination of the 2003-2007 Weak Era, had to beat Agassi, Safin and Djokovic at the Australian Open, Hewitt, Nadal at Wimbledon, Agassi, Hewitt, Roddick at the US Open. In other words, Federer had to beat multiple former Champions at each of the Slams he dominated, even in his Weak Era. Nadal had to beat just one. How much more weaker is that? LOL! So Nadal is a WEAKEST ERA CHAMPION :lol:


PS - Fellow Federer fans,

This is true, but I don't think it would have made any difference in the outcome. Nadal is just too strong of an athlete and mentally he's second to none. He would have probably won all his slams even against ridiculous competition.

Is it unreasonable to think that a player who can beat the greatest grass court player ever in his prime (Federer) would have less slams on clay given better competition?

Knowing Nadal I would almost want to say that he would have more slams had he competed in a strong era. What I mean is, he seems to thrive on adversity. The greater the challenge for him the fuel to his fire. So Fed fans should rejoice that Nadal played in a weak era.

 

[Eragon]

LOL. No. No. No. Repeat---NO. LOL. Let it go. son.

So that's your best argument, eh? A shake of the head and a laugh? :lol: Very impressive!

 

[jg153040]

The only thing worse than winning tons of slams against clowns is NOT WINNING tons of slams against clowns even though you competed in the tournament and got whipped in the early rounds.

---> looks in Nadals and every other player on tour direction

Haha, that was funny. It's not like giants were stopping PETAL or NADRAS winning majors. They lost a lot to "mugs". So I don't think any era would have made a difference.

 

[jg153040]

Any 10+ Slam Winners had weak competition.

This is brilliant. So simple and short and yet says so much. This is deep

 

[Eragon]

The only thing worse than winning tons of slams against clowns is NOT WINNING tons of slams against clowns even though you competed in the tournament and got whipped in the early rounds.

---> looks in Nadals and every other player on tour direction

Great point. It's better to win 2 Slams with Clown Draws than to win 1 Supertough Draw and lose 1 Clown Draw.

 

[Phenomenal]

Federer fans in action...

 

[NatF]

Federer fans in action...

It was prophetic in the end considering the 2017-2022 wins Nonsense in 2013 tbf.

 

[fedfan24]

Was fun seeing 90sclay owned in this thread.

 

[SonnyT]

Any opposition on clay is weak for Nadal, short of Djokovic. No one, except Soderling and Djokovic, has beaten him at RG. Almost every RG entered was a guaranteed success.

 

[RS]

Any 10+ Slam Winners had weak competition.

Consistent tbf

 

[LuckyR]

Consistent tbf

Right. 10+ Slam winners should have sucked more so there'd be "better" competition and thus wouldn't have weak competition.

Ridiculous.