Nadal would have won more than Djokovic and Federer if not for injuries according to his uncle Toni.

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Shuts down all those hypotheticals TTW loves to dish out.
It's not TTW. It's the children here. The adults simply get worn down by the nonsense. In real life people who act childish at the worst get ignored. In some cases if they go too far they get punched in the mouth. :)

Right now we are seeing some of the best young players we've seen for a very long time. And we have a 36 year old who is setting a new standard of fitness and longevity in tennis. I think it's a very exciting time to be a tennis fan.
 
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It's not TTW. It's the children here. The adults simply get worn down by the nonsense. In real life people who act childish at the worst get ignored. In some cases if they go too far they get punched in the mouth. :)

Right now we are seeing some of the best young players we've seen for a very long time. And we have a 36 year old who is setting a new standard of fitness and longevity in tennis. I think it's a very exciting time to be a tennis fan.

A very true statement. I've said a few times here, some 'children' put in an unhealthy amount of emotional energy into something that they have no zero influence over. But hey, to each their own I guess. :giggle:
 
So Nadal is inferior tennis player to Djokovic because... he's inferior player to Djokovic? Toni brilliant as always. No wonder he's had so much success with Felix.
Yeah, not sure what he was trying to say with this statement. He basically admitted outright that he's inferior to Djokovic and Federer because he has less favorite surfaces than them.
 
I mean it’s obvious his injuries have cost him a fair few slams , he would probably be on about 30 by now if he was fit but that’s part and parcel of the style he plays .
 
All of them born same year.
Djokovic knows about his gluten intolerance before going pro.
Nadal has healthy foots.
Federer has a way better diet (he said that he eats a lot of ice cream, pizza and fries).
2 masters 1000 on grass introduced.
Let's say they all start in 2007.
Murray, Wawrinka, Delpo, Thiem not so much affected by injuries.

Who wins more GS and more Masters?
 
What a shocking and humble statement from Uncle T...

As has been said many times before, while Bull himself always remained humble, modest, and humble, cleaning his own lines, flying in economy, remembering that he would have to stay modest, humble, and modest, and work his hardest, in order to have a small chance of making round 2 of Roland Garros, Uncle Toni and many Nadal fans were well aware that their hero was morally unbeaten and nigh-on morally unbeatable (until he started suffering a few moral losses in the asterisk era because They banned players from slams - for example, AO 2022 was no moral victory). Eventually, they were able to convince everyone of this apart from The Humble Bull himself.
 
All of them born same year.
Djokovic knows about his gluten intolerance before going pro.
Nadal has healthy foots.
Federer has a way better diet (he said that he eats a lot of ice cream, pizza and fries).
2 masters 1000 on grass introduced.
Let's say they all start in 2007.
Murray, Wawrinka, Delpo, Thiem not so much affected by injuries.

Who wins more GS and more Masters?
I think Djokovic maximised his career the most out of the three. Save for a couple of idiotic decisions he made.
 
Not playing well enough wasn't the problem, it was the missed opportunities.
And why did he miss the opportunities? Physical issues? That’s the responsibility of the player. Novak also missed many opportunities due to physical issues. Imagine a Novak with no elbow issues in 2017/18 or a Novak that had no stamina issues Pre 2011
 
And why did he miss the opportunities? Physical issues? That’s the responsibility of the player. Novak also missed many opportunities due to physical issues. Imagine a Novak with no elbow issues in 2017/18 or a Novak that had no stamina issues Pre 2011
Nadal was born with a deformity in his foot that led to a lot of his injuries (back, knees, hips etc). That can't be controlled.
 
Nadal was born with a deformity in his foot that led to a lot of his injuries (back, knees, hips etc). That can't be controlled.
And? I was born without the physical attributes to be a pro tennis player.

You are saying that Nadal has some physical limitations. Yes, that’s true of all players. And without those limitations he may have won more. Again, true of all players.
 
And? I was born without the physical attributes to be a pro tennis player.

You are saying that Nadal has some physical limitations. Yes, that’s true of all players. And without those limitations he may have won more. Again, true of all players.

Just the physical qualities you're missing, eh? :-D
 
And? I was born without the physical attributes to be a pro tennis player.

You are saying that Nadal has some physical limitations. Yes, that’s true of all players. And without those limitations he may have won more. Again, true of all players.
A deformity in the foot is separate from the innate physical talent that a player possesses.
 
Why? They are all physical limitations. A Nadal 3 inches shorter probably wins a lot less slams as well
Because I see a physical deformity as a small glitch in the DNA, likely preventable by scientists in the future by modifying genes before birth. Height on the other hand is a combination of multiple factors, that's not a simple glitch.
 
And why did he miss the opportunities? Physical issues? That’s the responsibility of the player. Novak also missed many opportunities due to physical issues. Imagine a Novak with no elbow issues in 2017/18 or a Novak that had no stamina issues Pre 2011

I don't think the bolded part puts it well. It's not a question of "responsibility." It is true that injuries are part of the game and so saying "Bull would have won 150 CYGSes were it not for injuries" is satire. Satire that some Nadal fans such as Toni Nadal set themselves up for, of course. But it's not that an injured player has failed in their responsibility. It's that success is partly a question of luck. Some injuries can be the result of lack of preparation - this might well be the case with Alcaraz at RG a month ago, for example. But some are simply bad luck.
 
Pete Sampras won 14 slams, and was the GOAT of his generation, while suffering from thalassemia minor, which is basically anemia. Yet he played 5 setters, and never revealed his struggle until his career was over. Never used it as an excuse either.
 
I don't think the bolded part puts it well. It's not a question of "responsibility." It is true that injuries are part of the game and so saying "Bull would have won 150 CYGSes were it not for injuries" is satire. Satire that some Nadal fans such as Toni Nadal set themselves up for, of course. But it's not that an injured player has failed in their responsibility. It's that success is partly a question of luck. Some injuries can be the result of lack of preparation - this might well be the case with Alcaraz at RG a month ago, for example. But some are simply bad luck.
Fair enough
 
Because I see a physical deformity as a small glitch in the DNA, likely preventable by scientists in the future by modifying genes before birth. Height on the other hand is a combination of multiple factors, that's not a simple glitch.
We are entering sci fi territory here
 
We are entering sci fi territory here
You could just say, "I don't understand what you're saying." I'll refer you to my previous point, if you're born with the innate physical talent of a GOAT level tennis player, that requires maybe a million things going in your favour in terms of the genetic makeup of your physical attributes. A foot deformity requires one thing going wrong.
 
You could just say, "I don't understand what you're saying." I'll refer you to my previous point, if you're born with the innate physical talent of a GOAT level tennis player, that requires maybe a million things going in your favour in terms of your physical attributes. A foot deformity requires one thing going wrong.
You’ve really gone off the deep end.

If Schwartzman were just a few inches taller he might be a multi slam winner. For all we know in a few years parents will be able to select their kids heights. Who knows?

Right now though none of that is an option. Players have all kinds of limitations they need to deal with. In Nadal’s case that includes his foot. That’s too bad but it’s just part of who he is as a player.
 
It's not TTW. It's the children here. The adults simply get worn down by the nonsense. In real life people who act childish at the worst get ignored. In some cases if they go too far they get punched in the mouth. :)

Right now we are seeing some of the best young players we've seen for a very long time. And we have a 36 year old who is setting a new standard of fitness and longevity in tennis. I think it's a very exciting time to be a tennis fan.
I AGREE!
 
You’ve really gone off the deep end.

If Schwartzman were just a few inches taller he might be a multi slam winner. For all we know in a few years parents will be able to select their kids heights. Who knows?

Right now though none of that is an option. Players have all kinds of limitations they need to deal with. In Nadal’s case that includes his foot. That’s too bad but it’s just part of who he is as a player.
Man, you're really insecure aren't you?

Height is a combination of multiple genetic factors. So changing Schwartzman's height would more than likely lead to him not playing tennis professionally anymore. Again, different from a physical deformity.
 
Man, you're really insecure aren't you?

Height is a combination of multiple genetic factors. So changing Schwartzman's height would more than likely lead to him not playing tennis professionally anymore. Again, different from a physical deformity.
Again, who cares? Nadal has a physical limitation. If you are going to start imagining an alternative reality where he doesn’t have to deal with that we can do the same for all other players.

And why would I be insecure? Lol

Novak already has all the key records. If on top of that I start playing the “if,if, if” game Nadal fans are so fond of I can easily say Novak would have 35 slams by now
 
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